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January 31, 2018, 02:36:24 PM
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NO KYC For Bounty Hunters

Join us DeepWater Bounty

The DeepWater ICO employs artificial intelligence for underwater pattern recognition to locate and map the locations of sunken treasure ships!

DeepWater plans to gather information about shipwrecks and underwater mineral resources in the Caribbean Sea and along the historical trade routes in the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans
To collect the data, they will use Gliders. A DeepWater neural network will analyze the datasets and identify sunken ships, deposits of mineral resources, underwater anomalies, etc.

Treasure hunting is a hobby of mine, and doesn't real-world shipwreck hunting feel like a lot like hoping you mine the next block and earn the reward? Or is it just me? 

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January 31, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
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Well, I am all for it. Plus please @mprep, notice this please.

You work hard, anonymously 'most of the time' and they get free advertisements out of you. That's not even fair.

Escrows should be a good thing for this.

Plus, a promise of non-KYC as a rule for the bounty managers.

Reminded me of Gla###### and Re$$$m bounties requiring KYC after quite sometime the bounty ended. luls

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January 31, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
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This kind of thread is what i have wanted to read this past few days. This sudden NO KYC, NO BOUNTY rule is somehow growing everyday.
 It is very saddening to see that after several weeks of hard work you will get a notification that you need to go KYC process. As a bounty hunter you are just promoting the project. That is very far from being a customer that needs to undergo KYC process (in some ICO).

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February 02, 2018, 05:01:00 PM
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Got a message from the Bitcloud BTX Bounty Manager! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2370964.msg29265986#msg29265986

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February 06, 2018, 07:23:52 PM
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I agree that the rule must be clear from start but put yourself in the shoes of companies, what they want are real social profiles and not anonymous accounts that could co-opt each other. Even a LinkedIn account can be anon ..
Conversely who would like to invest in an anonymous ICO?
And by the way, except to be from China, why do you want to remain anonymous in 2018?

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February 07, 2018, 07:23:13 PM
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I agree that the rule must be clear from start but put yourself in the shoes of companies, what they want are real social profiles and not anonymous accounts that could co-opt each other. Even a LinkedIn account can be anon ..
Conversely who would like to invest in an anonymous ICO?
And by the way, except to be from China, why do you want to remain anonymous in 2018?

Again, the only goal is not to remain anonymous. There are many dangers in trusting personal information to a bunch of different ICOs.

It reminds me of a child a told should put on sunscreen before going to the beach. I said, "You could get cancer if you don't wear sunscreen." He replied, "I've never gotten cancer before!"

Until your life is ruined you will never understand the risks. The same goes for privacy.

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February 13, 2018, 03:05:25 AM
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KYC is bullshit and the same tactic casinoes used to not pay people. Only when you investing a lot of money should you need KYC. So say over $10000.
will need KYC. KYC is banks. How legit are these ICO's?? The people running the ICO should show us their KYC not the other way around.

My local bank asks for KYC let us compare them to an ICO.

I will give my info to a bank because.

1. They are legally registered and can get into big trouble for leaking personal info.
2. They have been around for years and have a physical location as well as many people working there so if there is an issue it can be sorted out.
3. They respect you as a customer and are there for you at any time during work hours.

Why I won't give my KYC to ICO.

1. I don't trust some random person online claiming they legit when they have no physical location and are a faceless organisation.
2. No legal repercussion for sharing your info.
3. How safe is my info and where is it stored?
4. Who are you? Who are the people behind the ICO and what can I do if I am scammed?
5. I cannot meet face to face with ICO projects like I can with the bank.

If I cannot physically meet someone why in the hell should I give them my info? They can disappear and I can do nothing. How long till my info is in the hands of a scammer who uses my info to commit crimes?Huh? I have no protection against this and can do little to stop this.

ICO is perfect for a criminal. If I were a criminal I would ask KYC and run an ICO and sell the KYC info and noone can stop me. Do you see where I am going with this? These people are not banks they have no legal standing why do they want out legal info when we don't have  theirs?

Do ICO projects even have an address, these pictures of the ICO team??? Are they real?? I think not.

You cannot ask someone for money and remain annonomous whilst they must not just give you money but surrender their person info.


No thanks. I wouldnt even give my KYC if I was to invest. I would however give my KYC to an actual registered company with an actual HQ that is physical.

How many of these ICO's are even legally registered??

I want to see some legal info of the people running the ICO not the other way around. It is them that must prove they legit to us not the other way around.




Oh and btw KYC means nothing. Scammers who run scams will open different bank accounts with different people they find. Say a homeless person or someone off the radar. THey then simple close the account and open another or have 20 accounts with 20 random people they get info off. It means nothing. Right now I can go to the corner of the road and ask someone there waiting for a taxi or work to give me their info and I can pretend I am them. Can you  see how useless KYC is???

PErsonal info is worth more then money because people can do all sorts of things with that info like take loans for example.

It is all good and well gicing away your info untill you get a call from an officail saying you owe money becasue you have 12 loans under your name.
Maybe you get extorted?? You get doxxed?? Someone here on the forum gets that info a publishes it and now everyone here knows who you are and where you live??

No thanks.
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February 13, 2018, 06:51:06 AM
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I understand the need for compliance, but the potential for massive identity theft from a scam ICO is very real. The law must safeguard the rights of all, not just companies. This is a legal gray area, because I imagine some sort of liability from potential misuse of identity. Also, projects should be verifying themselves with us, not the other way around -- the whole point of blockchain technology is defeated with this.

There are serious issues that must be debated.

I just see a massive lawsuit coming as soon as identities are stolen en masse. I'm not fear-mongering -- I'm warning of a very real problem.

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February 13, 2018, 04:15:58 PM
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And one of my favorite bounties Chimaera bites the dust...at least they will be paying out bounties up til the point they cut off US citizens.


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February 13, 2018, 04:34:17 PM
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I wish your list was much bigger? Is that how few bounties will promise no KYC?
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February 16, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
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Here is some important resources I was given by a bounty manager regarding KYC and how it applies to bounty hunters (especially US bounty hunters).

The relevant laws are for securities and the specific principle at play is called "The Howey Test".

It's been in a few news articles. Here are a few references:

https://hackernoon.com/rest-in-peace-ico-bounty-programs-fc1e1e04e867

https://medium.com/@coincrowdit/sec-targeting-icos-that-offer-bounty-programs-d444a894a59f

https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

I won't mention by name who sent this to me, since they are a bounty manager and not a lawyer, but if you happen to see this sir, Thank you!

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February 25, 2018, 01:09:37 AM
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Any new bounty campaings that don't require KYC? I am doing a few and asked one admin on Telegram to clear things up for his platform. Will post details of his answer as proof later. Great thread OP.

EDIT: Ok, I don't know if it is against some rules to post an answer from bounty campaign manager that I got via private message on Telegram, so I won't do that just of yet. However, I can assure you he said that they are NOT going to have KYC after bounty ends. This was for Loyakk coin bounty. More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2838705.0

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