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July 31, 2010, 11:02:34 PM
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Anyone else in the greater Louisville, Kentucky area?


"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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About the closest you'll find so far is me, as part of the greater Nashville, TN area.




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August 01, 2010, 10:06:49 PM
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Minnesota up in here!
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Cincinnati!

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Cincinnati!

North Florida.  Grin

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August 02, 2010, 05:12:59 PM
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Oahu.

But I have lived in Asheville, NC, and may again. That's not so far from you guys.

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August 02, 2010, 05:24:03 PM
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Obviously, we're too dispersed to have a local bitcoin economy. But I think we could advertise and get people in certain area to use bitcoins though. Specifically, I am thinking of a town in New Hampshire with lot of agorists in it.

Edit: fix missing adjective.

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Obviously, we're too dispersed to have a bitcoin economy. But I think we could advertise and get people in certain area to use bitcoins though. Specifically, I am thinking of a town in New Hampshire with lot of agorists in it.



It is why craigslist for bitcoins is an excellent idea.

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August 02, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
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Im from new york, staten island.
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Obviously, we're too dispersed to have a bitcoin economy. But I think we could advertise and get people in certain area to use bitcoins though. Specifically, I am thinking of a town in New Hampshire with lot of agorists in it.



It is why craigslist for bitcoins is an excellent idea.

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Using the town market model, you could have business model to do arbitrage. What is not so highly valued valued in one town may be highly valued in another town. Using that knowledge, you could profit the difference.

You still need heavy concentration of bitcoin users in towns and cities though.

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Minnesota up in here!

Hey! Got another one in the hot and muggy MN! Just north of the TC here :-D
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Obviously, we're too dispersed to have a local bitcoin economy. But I think we could advertise and get people in certain area to use bitcoins though. Specifically, I am thinking of a town in New Hampshire with lot of agorists in it.

Edit: fix missing adjective.

What town would that be?

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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August 04, 2010, 04:59:21 AM
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Obviously, we're too dispersed to have a local bitcoin economy. But I think we could advertise and get people in certain area to use bitcoins though. Specifically, I am thinking of a town in New Hampshire with lot of agorists in it.

Edit: fix missing adjective.

What town would that be?

I think it would be Keene.There is also agorist acres in Grafton  Smiley
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August 06, 2010, 06:01:32 PM
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Obviously, we're too dispersed to have a local bitcoin economy. But I think we could advertise and get people in certain area to use bitcoins though. Specifically, I am thinking of a town in New Hampshire with lot of agorists in it.

Edit: fix missing adjective.

What town would that be?

I think it would be Keene.There is also agorist acres in Grafton  Smiley

Hmm, you could even set up a logistic company that ferry goods between Keene and Grafton. I think somebody in both Keene and Grafton must first promote bitcoins amongst the libertarian crowd.

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I think it would be Keene.There is also agorist acres in Grafton  Smiley

Hmm, you could even set up a logistic company that ferry goods between Keene and Grafton. I think somebody in both Keene and Grafton must first promote bitcoins amongst the libertarian crowd.

Be careful not to confuse your ideologies.  Libertarianism and agorism are closely related, but they are not the same thing.  Generally speaking, agorists are libs who have dropped the 'live and let live' non-aggression principle in favor of an intentionally subversive market stragedy with the intent of 'starving the beast'.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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I think it would be Keene.There is also agorist acres in Grafton  Smiley

Hmm, you could even set up a logistic company that ferry goods between Keene and Grafton. I think somebody in both Keene and Grafton must first promote bitcoins amongst the libertarian crowd.

Be careful not to confuse your ideologies.  Libertarianism and agorism are closely related, but they are not the same thing.  Generally speaking, agorists are libs who have dropped the 'live and let live' non-aggression principle in favor of an intentionally subversive market stragedy with the intent of 'starving the beast'.

I don't think that's quite right. Most libs will vote and advocate for politicians to rule over us, they just want nicer, less intrusive ones.

Agorists actually do live and let live and this will have the effect of "starving the beast". It is not aggressive to avoid aggressive people.

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I think it would be Keene.There is also agorist acres in Grafton  Smiley

Hmm, you could even set up a logistic company that ferry goods between Keene and Grafton. I think somebody in both Keene and Grafton must first promote bitcoins amongst the libertarian crowd.

Be careful not to confuse your ideologies.  Libertarianism and agorism are closely related, but they are not the same thing.  Generally speaking, agorists are libs who have dropped the 'live and let live' non-aggression principle in favor of an intentionally subversive market stragedy with the intent of 'starving the beast'.

I don't think that's quite right. Most libs will vote and advocate for politicians to rule over us, they just want nicer, less intrusive ones.

Agorists actually do live and let live and this will have the effect of "starving the beast". It is not aggressive to avoid aggressive people.

Agorists are anarchists who don't think voting will work. So they advocate subversive but nonviolent and beneficial behaviors.

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August 07, 2010, 04:28:54 AM
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Obviously, we're too dispersed to have a local bitcoin economy. But I think we could advertise and get people in certain area to use bitcoins though. Specifically, I am thinking of a town in New Hampshire with lot of agorists in it.

Edit: fix missing adjective.

What town would that be?

I think it would be Keene.There is also agorist acres in Grafton  Smiley

Hmm, you could even set up a logistic company that ferry goods between Keene and Grafton. I think somebody in both Keene and Grafton must first promote bitcoins amongst the libertarian crowd.

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I think it would be Keene.There is also agorist acres in Grafton  Smiley

Hmm, you could even set up a logistic company that ferry goods between Keene and Grafton. I think somebody in both Keene and Grafton must first promote bitcoins amongst the libertarian crowd.

Be careful not to confuse your ideologies.  Libertarianism and agorism are closely related, but they are not the same thing.  Generally speaking, agorists are libs who have dropped the 'live and let live' non-aggression principle in favor of an intentionally subversive market stragedy with the intent of 'starving the beast'.



Has anyone thought that bitcoin deserves its own ism?

I call it crypto-agorism .... using crytpography to cut out the need for the state to protect your property ie your cash.

There should be a wiki page for it.... but they may delete it because no-one has used the term before  lol



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Agorists are anarchists who don't think voting won't work. So they advocate subversive but nonviolent and beneficial behaviors.

I'm having trouble parsing that. You say agorists do think voting will work? Or just that this isn't a good enough distinguishing characteristic from libertarians? I agree that some libertarians don't believe voting is good if that's all you mean.

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Agorists are anarchists who don't think voting won't work. So they advocate subversive but nonviolent and beneficial behaviors.

I'm having trouble parsing that. You say agorists do think voting will work? Or just that this isn't a good enough distinguishing characteristic from libertarians? I agree that some libertarians don't believe voting is good if that's all you mean.

Sorry for the double negative there. I was not thinking clearly when I wrote it.

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Agorists are people who don't fill out government paperwork when they trade with others.It is not a belief as much as a lifestyle choice and not needing permission to interact freely with other people.


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Agorists are people who don't fill out government paperwork when they trade with others.It is not a belief as much as a lifestyle choice and not needing permission to interact freely with other people.




Well said.

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August 09, 2010, 06:31:16 AM
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Be careful not to confuse your ideologies.  Libertarianism and agorism are closely related, but they are not the same thing.  Generally speaking, agorists are libs who have dropped the 'live and let live' non-aggression principle in favor of an intentionally subversive market stragedy with the intent of 'starving the beast'.

Has anyone thought that bitcoin deserves its own ism?

I call it crypto-agorism .... using crytpography to cut out the need for the state to protect your property ie your cash.

There should be a wiki page for it.... but they may delete it because no-one has used the term before  lol

Here's my two bitcents:

I would be hesitant to waste effort in labeling agorists who use bitcoins with a completely new term "crypto-agorism".  There are already so many political philosophies/terms out there and it seems someone is coming out with a new flavor of libertarianism all the time.  Agorists who use bitcoins are simply "crypto-anarchists"...that's it.  And likewise anyone who engages in crypto-anarchism is promoting agorism in some way.  So let's instead focus on reviving/promoting the term "crypto-anarchist" and encourage bitcoins as the currency for crypto-anarchists.  In fact, the Crypto-Anarchism WikiPedia page mentions bitcoin in the "Anonymous trading" section.  And as you point out, it would take a long long time before wikipedia accepts a page for the new term "crypto-agorism", and much longer for the non-initiated public to learn such a new term.

If you want to be more elaborate in your introduction, say something along the lines of "I am a crypto-anarchist who uses bitcoins in the agorist market."  The term "crypto-agorism" itself doesn't necessarily imply to me or to anyone hearing the term for the first time that that person uses bitcoins as their primary currency.

Has anyone thought that bitcoin deserves its own ism?
I say people who use bitcoins should simply be called "bitcoiners", since being a user of bitcoins does not necessarily mean you are an agorist or anarchist.

But then again, you and free to call yourself whatever you want:)

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As my grandfather used to say you can call me anything you want just dont call me late for dinner  Tongue
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The Bitcoin Community Market of Utah is open and ready for business! You're welcome to use it as a template for your own community market. Just be sure to offer proper bittribution. Cheesy

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