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June 19, 2014, 04:34:18 PM
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I haven't seen much feedback about Coin Pocket. Talk to me. It looks simple enough. Can I trust it?

Other iPhone Wallets?

I've got poker tonight. They're used to hearing me talk about Bitcoin (probably sick of hearing it). But I need to show my not-so-tech-savvy iPhone buddies a tangible real world utility example of some bitcoin action.
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June 19, 2014, 04:45:19 PM
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never trust mobile wallet applications, keep there only little money like 10-50$ max
for minor spending drinks / food etc.

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June 19, 2014, 04:58:22 PM
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I have tried bitWallet. It is available in AppStore, so do not require a jailbreak. I have not used it enough to give you a comment. For myself, I prefer to use Blockchain.info wallet in safari.
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June 19, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
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I would personally wait until the others come available thru the app store.

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June 19, 2014, 07:26:51 PM
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Blockchain is working on another version of their app.  Until then, you're better off just using their webwallet on Safari.  

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June 20, 2014, 12:35:02 AM
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The software is (unconfirmably) keeping keys encrypted (bip 38). It's as legit as you can get without reviewing what you know for certain is the source code (which I guess technically would mean compiling yourself). I'm using it for sums that wouldn't hurt to lose.

Hardforks aren't that hard.
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June 23, 2014, 02:53:32 AM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

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June 24, 2014, 07:59:56 PM
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I haven't seen much feedback about Coin Pocket. Talk to me. It looks simple enough. Can I trust it?

Other iPhone Wallets?

I've got poker tonight. They're used to hearing me talk about Bitcoin (probably sick of hearing it). But I need to show my not-so-tech-savvy iPhone buddies a tangible real world utility example of some bitcoin action.

Which app did you end up going with? I currently use CoinPocket and it's easy enough, gets the job done, but I don't trust it with more than $50-$75 at a time.

I'll be switching to the blockchain app as soon as it's released.


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June 25, 2014, 03:42:22 AM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

Here is the open source code for blockchain.info's iOS wallet app. https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (presumably it's also published under a non-free license for App Store compatibility...I dunno...IANAL)

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June 30, 2014, 03:27:35 AM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

Here is the open source code for blockchain.info's iOS wallet app. https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (presumably it's also published under a non-free license for App Store compatibility...I dunno...IANAL)

I think it would be very difficult to verify what you download from the app store is the same as what is published to github. AFAIK there is not a way to inspect code of programs that you have on your phone.

I am not 100% sure about this but I think that apple can force you to update an app if they so choose (in the event of a big security hole for example) so apple could, in theory push a wallet app that is not actually from the dev

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July 02, 2014, 10:03:15 AM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

Here is the open source code for blockchain.info's iOS wallet app. https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (presumably it's also published under a non-free license for App Store compatibility...I dunno...IANAL)

I think it would be very difficult to verify what you download from the app store is the same as what is published to github. AFAIK there is not a way to inspect code of programs that you have on your phone.

I am not 100% sure about this but I think that apple can force you to update an app if they so choose (in the event of a big security hole for example) so apple could, in theory push a wallet app that is not actually from the dev
Apple can't push code to your phone unless you turn on (or fail to turn off? Not sure what default is) auto update. They can delete App Store apps from your phone...it's a power they have never used.

Hardforks aren't that hard.
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July 05, 2014, 07:58:58 PM
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If you are interested in multisignature wallets there's GreenAddress on the iOS store

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July 06, 2014, 04:11:55 AM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

Here is the open source code for blockchain.info's iOS wallet app. https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (presumably it's also published under a non-free license for App Store compatibility...I dunno...IANAL)

I think it would be very difficult to verify what you download from the app store is the same as what is published to github. AFAIK there is not a way to inspect code of programs that you have on your phone.

I am not 100% sure about this but I think that apple can force you to update an app if they so choose (in the event of a big security hole for example) so apple could, in theory push a wallet app that is not actually from the dev
Apple can't push code to your phone unless you turn on (or fail to turn off? Not sure what default is) auto update. They can delete App Store apps from your phone...it's a power they have never used.
Regardless of your setting to have apps auto update (I don't think this is actually a setting, as I often have a lot of app updates on my iPhone), how many people do you know simply click on "update all" when they visit the app store that shows all the updates. I would say that most people do not look at the part where it says what is being updated/changed.

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July 06, 2014, 04:27:46 AM
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I haven't really checked much through the App Store since they lifted their ban on Bitcoin wallet apps (I think I read something like that somewhere, am I correct?).

I mainly just use blockchain.info website when I am on the go, as cooldgamer suggested. However, I have had a "view only" Bitcoin wallet app named Baseline that I downloaded months ago when the ban was in effect. Even though it's view-only, it has actually proven itself to be very helpful to me. You can set the price of Bitcoin based off of like 20+ exchanges (your choice), and input up to 5 different addresses for free. Once your addresses are entered, one click shows you all recent transactions with all relevant info., one click shows your QR code, and one click copies your address to the clipboard (Very helpful). Best of all, it requires no trust, as you are only entering your public key. Very handy just for checking in on your BTC finances when on the go, I recommend it.

Besides that, yes I think I will also just wait for blockchain.info's new app.

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July 06, 2014, 04:43:45 AM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

Here is the open source code for blockchain.info's iOS wallet app. https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (presumably it's also published under a non-free license for App Store compatibility...I dunno...IANAL)

I think it would be very difficult to verify what you download from the app store is the same as what is published to github. AFAIK there is not a way to inspect code of programs that you have on your phone.

I am not 100% sure about this but I think that apple can force you to update an app if they so choose (in the event of a big security hole for example) so apple could, in theory push a wallet app that is not actually from the dev
Apple can't push code to your phone unless you turn on (or fail to turn off? Not sure what default is) auto update. They can delete App Store apps from your phone...it's a power they have never used.
Regardless of your setting to have apps auto update (I don't think this is actually a setting, as I often have a lot of app updates on my iPhone), how many people do you know simply click on "update all" when they visit the app store that shows all the updates. I would say that most people do not look at the part where it says what is being updated/changed.
Just to clarify, I am not sure if there is an option for it, but the default setting is definitely not on because apps don't update automatically for me.

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July 07, 2014, 01:13:42 AM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

Here is the open source code for blockchain.info's iOS wallet app. https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (presumably it's also published under a non-free license for App Store compatibility...I dunno...IANAL)

I think it would be very difficult to verify what you download from the app store is the same as what is published to github. AFAIK there is not a way to inspect code of programs that you have on your phone.

I am not 100% sure about this but I think that apple can force you to update an app if they so choose (in the event of a big security hole for example) so apple could, in theory push a wallet app that is not actually from the dev
Apple can't push code to your phone unless you turn on (or fail to turn off? Not sure what default is) auto update. They can delete App Store apps from your phone...it's a power they have never used.
Regardless of your setting to have apps auto update (I don't think this is actually a setting, as I often have a lot of app updates on my iPhone), how many people do you know simply click on "update all" when they visit the app store that shows all the updates. I would say that most people do not look at the part where it says what is being updated/changed.
Just to clarify, I am not sure if there is an option for it, but the default setting is definitely not on because apps don't update automatically for me.
Lets just say that it is not possible for apple to force update apps like you describe for conversational sake, but can rather make updates available on the app store. How often do you look at individual updates to check what is being updated and confirm that the update is actually from the dev? Do you know anyone that does this? I think that most people put a certain level of trust in apple to not push an update that is malicious verses multibit for example of signing a PGP message confirming that a new update of their client was actually developed by them.

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July 11, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
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IOS apps cannot, by design be open source. This due diligence is done by apple. If you are to use any wallet on any IOS device you should only use one from a very trusted developer.

IMO the only safe IOS wallet is the blockchain wallet.

Here is the open source code for blockchain.info's iOS wallet app. https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-iPhone (presumably it's also published under a non-free license for App Store compatibility...I dunno...IANAL)

I think it would be very difficult to verify what you download from the app store is the same as what is published to github. AFAIK there is not a way to inspect code of programs that you have on your phone.

I am not 100% sure about this but I think that apple can force you to update an app if they so choose (in the event of a big security hole for example) so apple could, in theory push a wallet app that is not actually from the dev
Apple can't push code to your phone unless you turn on (or fail to turn off? Not sure what default is) auto update. They can delete App Store apps from your phone...it's a power they have never used.
Regardless of your setting to have apps auto update (I don't think this is actually a setting, as I often have a lot of app updates on my iPhone), how many people do you know simply click on "update all" when they visit the app store that shows all the updates. I would say that most people do not look at the part where it says what is being updated/changed.
Just to clarify, I am not sure if there is an option for it, but the default setting is definitely not on because apps don't update automatically for me.
Lets just say that it is not possible for apple to force update apps like you describe for conversational sake, but can rather make updates available on the app store. How often do you look at individual updates to check what is being updated and confirm that the update is actually from the dev? Do you know anyone that does this? I think that most people put a certain level of trust in apple to not push an update that is malicious verses multibit for example of signing a PGP message confirming that a new update of their client was actually developed by them.
I personally check every individual update as well as its changelog before updating each app as well as the reviews. This goes even for unimportant apps such as casual games or such, since I know from experience that some updates mess everything up. I also like to check on what's new and such. I don't really know if other people do this as well, but I assume that at least a good amount checks to see what's new with each update.

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July 12, 2014, 02:40:54 AM
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I personally check every individual update as well as its changelog before updating each app as well as the reviews. This goes even for unimportant apps such as casual games or such, since I know from experience that some updates mess everything up. I also like to check on what's new and such. I don't really know if other people do this as well, but I assume that at least a good amount checks to see what's new with each update.
Okay you check the updates prior to installing the update. But how many people do you think do anything like this? I would guess very few. Even if people did do this you cannot know for sure what is in the source code as apple apps are sandboxed.

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Now that they brought it back i'm up in the air for an iphone 5s or a samsung galaxy s5... oh the choices..

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September 27, 2014, 04:52:54 AM
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I'd like to add breadwallet to this thread.

breadwallet.com

breadwallet is the first bitcoin network client for iOS. It connects to the bitcoin network in SPV mode instead of using trusted servers for balance and transaction data. I designed it to be extremely simple, intuitive and safe for non-bitcoin experts. It's also currently the only BIP32 deterministic SPV wallet. Other SPV wallets are based on bitcoinj which doesn't have BIP32 implemented yet, though it's very close.

major features:

- "simplified payment verification" for fast mobile performance (BIP37)
- no servers to get hacked or go down
- single backup phrase that works forever (BIP32/BIP39)
- private keys never leave your device
- import password protected paper wallets (BIP38)
- "payment protocol" payee identity certification (BIP70)
- open source
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