The Holy Grail! I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face.

[troisky]

Why dont they add decentralized chat in the bitcoin wallet?

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[mere-mortal]

Isn't Bitmessage incorporated into Open Bazaar?

If you look at some of the videos on OpenTransactions, FellowT mentions that different encryption methods can be used for messaging and Bitmessage is one being used, at least that is my understanding, so is this thread a discussion solely about Bitmessage and its future, or its use within OT? Its a thread that was started in May 2013, and a lot has happened since.

Pretty much everything about OpenBazaar is a carbon copy of OpenTransaction, One Works through browser, the other a desktop client

[Rassah]

So what do the Snr's and legends think is going to come of this tech

Looks like just an encryption layer on top of existing centralized-server based communication mediums. BitMessage aimed to replace the actual communications channel with a decentralized peer-to-peer model, not just add encryption.

Isn't Bitmessage incorporated into Open Bazaar?

If you look at some of the videos on OpenTransactions, FellowT mentions that different encryption methods can be used for messaging and Bitmessage is one being used, at least that is my understanding, so is this thread a discussion solely about Bitmessage and its future, or its use within OT? Its a thread that was started in May 2013, and a lot has happened since.

Pretty much everything about OpenBazaar is a carbon copy of OpenTransaction, One Works through browser, the other a desktop client

I think this thread is mainly about OpenTransactions. Also, OT and OpenBazaar are very different from what I have seen so far. Sure, maybe you could make OpenTransactions do everything OpenBazaar does, but you would have to change a lot of the code and write a lot of your own, since one is specifically designed to issue digital tokens and trade them around, and the other is specifically made to market and sell physical products.

[vipgelsi]

Why dont they add decentralized chat in the bitcoin wallet?

Because it would make to much sense.  

[Rassah]

Why dont they add decentralized chat in the bitcoin wallet?

Because it would make to much sense.  

No, because decentralize everything means decentralize everything. We don't want to lump everything together, because it would make the Blockchain bloated, bitcoin wallets cumbersome, and lock us to a single main way of communicating, instead of being able to experiment with new ideas on the site, such as with BitMessage.

[mere-mortal]

So what do the Snr's and legends think is going to come of this tech

Looks like just an encryption layer on top of existing centralized-server based communication mediums. BitMessage aimed to replace the actual communications channel with a decentralized peer-to-peer model, not just add encryption.

Isn't Bitmessage incorporated into Open Bazaar?

If you look at some of the videos on OpenTransactions, FellowT mentions that different encryption methods can be used for messaging and Bitmessage is one being used, at least that is my understanding, so is this thread a discussion solely about Bitmessage and its future, or its use within OT? Its a thread that was started in May 2013, and a lot has happened since.

Pretty much everything about OpenBazaar is a carbon copy of OpenTransaction, One Works through browser, the other a desktop client

I think this thread is mainly about OpenTransactions. Also, OT and OpenBazaar are very different from what I have seen so far. Sure, maybe you could make OpenTransactions do everything OpenBazaar does, but you would have to change a lot of the code and write a lot of your own, since one is specifically designed to issue digital tokens and trade them around, and the other is specifically made to market and sell physical products.

Fair enough, and I am not here to compare either. I believe there is more to OT than you say, and its Bazaar feature is what I am talking about, which is to market and sell physical products. Using multisig and bitmessage.

[fellowtraveler]

Just noticed there is some activity in this thread, so I wanted to answer these questions...

So ~1.5 years later... what exactly is still missing that OpenTransactions can finally take off?

Open-Transactions itself is fully-functional.

What's still missing is the voting pools (using multi-sig to prevent the OT server from stealing any Bitcoins transacted there.)

However, Monetas is hard at work building the voting pools...
You can read updates on the Monetas blog: http://monetas.net/blog/

Design info for voting pools has started popping up on the OT wiki: http://opentransactions.org/wiki/index.php/Voting_Pool_Deposit_Process

Once voting pools are ready, it should "take off," as you say. It will take a few more months.

If you look at some of the videos on OpenTransactions, FellowT mentions that different encryption methods can be used for messaging and Bitmessage is one being used, at least that is my understanding

Here's the latest video update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJKWDC4q5rA

As you can see from the video, we are agnostic to the exact transport method, with Bitmessage being only the first integration.

However, Bitmessage is now fully-integrated and working in the Moneychanger desktop client! (As of the past couple months, as shown in the video.)

Now that we have Bitmessage integrated, we can start adding the features described in this thread, such as cross-server discovery for trading, legacy bank integration, etc. (And of course, the Bazaar feature.)

Fair enough, and I am not here to compare either. I believe there is more to OT than you say, and its Bazaar feature is what I am talking about, which is to market and sell physical products. Using multisig and bitmessage.

To be clear: Bitmessage is not integrated into OT itself. Rather, it's integrated in the Moneychanger desktop client.

Similarly, the Bazaar will not be built into OT itself. Rather, it's now being built into the Moneychanger desktop client. Here is some of the design info: http://opentransactions.org/forum/index.php?topic=3821.0

The basic concept is to have decentralized markets for goods and services, sort of like e-Bay, except without the server. Like a P2P version of e-Bay.

To whatever degree we have inspired any other projects, that's great! Let's change the world.

[TheFascistMind]

Official version of Bitmessage is functioning for me again, even though the broadcast spam is still high.

Apparently many users moved to the new experimental version.

[lclc]

Any plans for a release 1.0 ?

I said I'd collect my bounty when 1.0 is released, but that was very long time ago.

Would be nice if I can get the bounty paid out to this address within the next days:
1VhNZaUAxQXxbRFuxtL8ZoqE6WnJ4Bpqu

If anything needs additional fix please let me know.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Any plans for a release 1.0 ?

I said I'd collect my bounty when 1.0 is released, but that was very long time ago.

Would be nice if I can get the bounty paid out to this address within the next days:
1VhNZaUAxQXxbRFuxtL8ZoqE6WnJ4Bpqu

If anything needs additional fix please let me know.

Hmmm, that reminds me of all that library work done on Moneychanger ...

[fellowtraveler]

Any plans for a release 1.0 ?

I said I'd collect my bounty when 1.0 is released, but that was very long time ago.

Would be nice if I can get the bounty paid out to this address within the next days:
1VhNZaUAxQXxbRFuxtL8ZoqE6WnJ4Bpqu

If anything needs additional fix please let me know.

Absolutely.

The appropriate thread is the bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225954.240

Go ahead and post there to refresh my memory on the job you did, and I will verify it and pay out the bounty. (I believe it was internationalization? But let's take this to the appropriate thread.)

[minimalB]

Chris, any comment why you left Monetas?

[_mr_e]

Chris, any comment why you left Monetas?

Chris Odem left Monetas???

[minimalB]

Chris Odem left Monetas???

According to this news, yes.

http://monetas.net/news/

[Elokane]

Hey guys. Have you heard about Synereo?

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We don't suffer from any of the problems that have plagued BitMessage as we do not rely on the blockchain for message transfer, but rather on our DendroNET.

We have a *working* distributed storage solution, a smart contracting system that’s based on decades of research and established practices (see code examples and implementation details in our whitepaper), and an attention economy model inspired by the brain’s neural networks.

Come check it out. Crowdsale starts tomorrow for our token, which has an inherent value in the network.

www.synereo.com