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Author Topic: Press Release - TradeHill, Inc. Files Suit Against Dwolla, Inc.  (Read 12141 times)
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March 09, 2012, 04:56:39 AM
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Dwolla claims they don't need licenses, as they use The Members Group to middle man the ACH payments:

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Well it was legal, we just couldn't operate outside of Iowa. For the first two years we built out the platform. We did a sh*tload of testing on a small scale because legally we couldn't launch Dwolla nationwide. We spent two years inside of Iowa fine-tuning Dwolla with the financial institutions, building out some of the initial models, and trying to figure out how to legally do what we do.

How'd you find a legal loophole?

Moving money is an exceptionally regulated business. We're in Iowa, which is sort of conservative — I don't know if that helped us or hurt us, but in the long term I think it helped us. We figured to do this legally, we had two options: we could take in a tremendous amount of money and go out and get licenses, which is how most people do it. But we didn't have access to that kind of capital here.

The other option was to bring in really strategic investors, which is what we did. One of our investors is a financial institution; one is a financial services company.

Our investors do credit and debit processing for banks. So when you get a credit card from your bank, it's being issued by companies like them. Our investors are also distributing our product to financial institutions. So we've been building a payment network, and we can do it legally because of who our investors are.





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April 07, 2012, 10:13:55 AM
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I've experienced weird things like one time my account was -$20 when I withdrew $20 so I emailed them many times and their response where that i owed them money, and I explained that they owed me money and that I thought this was ridicules since dwolla claims you can't go negative. Anyways 5 to 7 emails later and a three-way phone call connection with my bank to verify my information I finally got a zero balance and when I claimed they owed me 20 dollars still they said they need to look back at my statements, Well my written records said they owed me $20 but when i looked back at the statement listing it added up.... I originally thought I just wrote down my transactions wrong but this recent tradehill stuff makes wonder if they gipped me $20...Scumbags
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November 29, 2013, 01:31:26 AM
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Has anyone actually pulled the court documents off of Pacer?  I would like to read just the original complaint and answer to the complaint by the named parties.  I'm guessing that since they haven't been very vocal about this they are just settling out of court.
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December 19, 2013, 09:15:16 AM
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Many thoughts running through my mind after reading this. Considering shorting BTC. Dwolla probably relies a lot on Bitcoin-related businesses for revenue, but all the trouble they're having might push them toward dumping all Bitcoin-businesses as Paxum did instead of fixing their problems. Dwolla's a pretty small start-up... Hopefully they can't afford to dis-associate from Bitcoin. I know a LOT of people who use Dwolla. It's pretty darn close to free for US citizens to get cash into an exchange, and it's the only method I've ever used to transfer money into an exchange. So close to seeing a sustained push through $5, too. Hmm.
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