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March 20, 2012, 02:20:32 PM
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I guess I see this as a big problem and many don't. It's crazy how people have sigs that say Deepbit the enemy of Bitcoin. When it is a official pool and right in our face
as open as can be with thousands of honest miners making up the hash rate. Yet we have a unknown miner with massive amounts of hash power that really can't be explained
not raising any real concern. I guess because he is unknown we have not right to question? Yet we will bash any legitimate pool that get to big.OK I'm lost someone who has been
here longer tell me why Deepbit is untrusted yet solo miner deserves all this respect for his operation?
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March 20, 2012, 02:20:52 PM
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I just generated a list of all 1 tx blocks since beginning of this year:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apbj91OWg5HvdElMV0FQVWlGa1lsTThNWVVSenJXeWc

If you need anything else, just ask.

I'm glad to see someone is willing to put in a little effort rather than crying for their mommy.

Now we need ineededausername and his blockchain code.....
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March 20, 2012, 02:21:14 PM
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OK. Now anyone can think about how to avoid that the BTC network get plagued by swarms of botnets any time from now? Then we should rename "proofs of work" in "proofs of crimes". Funny way to back an e-currency.
Plagued? Mining blocks increases network security, it does not decrease it. If the liquidity of the exchanges are not high enough to absorb a large miner dumping his coins, that is our fault for not having faith in it and packing it full of money. While the idea of botnets are abhorrent to me, I sure as fuck would rather see them mining bitcoins instead of sending me spam and phish emails.

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March 20, 2012, 02:26:19 PM
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I just generated a list of all 1 tx blocks since beginning of this year:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apbj91OWg5HvdElMV0FQVWlGa1lsTThNWVVSenJXeWc

If you need anything else, just ask.

I'm glad to see someone is willing to put in a little effort rather than crying for their mommy.

Now we need ineededausername and his blockchain code.....
What blockchain code is that?
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March 20, 2012, 02:28:13 PM
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I guess I see this as a big problem and many don't. It's crazy how people have sigs that say Deepbit the enemy of Bitcoin. When it is a official pool and right in our face
as open as can be with thousands of honest miners making up the hash rate. Yet we have a unknown miner with massive amounts of hash power that really can't be explained
not raising any real concern. I guess because he is unknown we have not right to question? Yet we will bash any legitimate pool that get to big.OK I'm lost someone who has been
here longer tell me why Deepbit is untrusted yet solo miner deserves all this respect for his operation?


Your problem is you seem to equate defending a persons rights, with supporting and respecting them and everything they do. They are nowhere near the same thing. Sure he's probably a douchebag stealing from grandmas via electricity bills, but probably isn't a good enough reason to violate his privacy or call for a lynch mob.


On another note, looks like we have a new ip doing no transaction blocks.

http://blockchain.info/blocks/95.172.9.82
http://blockchain.info/blocks/95.172.9.82 <--- currently mining 0 tx blocks
http://blockchain.info/blocks/85.214.124.168 <---- mined 0 tx blocks from 03/17 - 03/19

Same ISP for both IPs

Company Website:
http://www.clara.net
Company Looking Glass:
http://noc.eu.clara.net/lg.php

Country of Origin:
United Kingdom

Someone interested the taking the time to draft a letter to report abuse? We can all copy it and send it in to them reporting that one of their users (or employees) is using their resources to abuse the Bitcoin network?

http://www.claranet.co.uk/about/contact-us.html  <---- Contact page


it may do nothing it all, but it may slow them down or disable them for awhile and it will certainly send the message that we as a community are watching and do not support what they are doing.





This on the other hand, is a reasonable course of action.

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March 20, 2012, 02:33:17 PM
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Now we need ineededausername and his blockchain code.....

What for? To find the relaying IPs? Not too sure what that would tell you. But I could write a little script to feed those hashes to blockchain.info and get whatever data you want, but Im not sure what it is you want.

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March 20, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
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http://blockchain.info/blocks/95.172.9.82 <--- currently mining 0 tx blocks
http://blockchain.info/blocks/85.214.124.168 <---- mined 0 tx blocks from 03/17 - 03/19

Same ISP for both IPs

Ehrm, i got to be using different whois database then (different internet), as i see 95.172.9.82 being Tagadab's at London.
85.214.124.168 is Strato's at Berlin.

Tagadab however does use Clara for transit at the very least.
But there is no commonalities in traceroutes between the IPs for me. Origin from Elisa network in Finland.

Same thing when tracing from france.
 

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March 20, 2012, 02:58:29 PM
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I guess I see this as a big problem and many don't. It's crazy how people have sigs that say Deepbit the enemy of Bitcoin. When it is a official pool and right in our face
as open as can be with thousands of honest miners making up the hash rate. Yet we have a unknown miner with massive amounts of hash power that really can't be explained
not raising any real concern. I guess because he is unknown we have not right to question? Yet we will bash any legitimate pool that get to big.OK I'm lost someone who has been
here longer tell me why Deepbit is untrusted yet solo miner deserves all this respect for his operation?


Your problem is you seem to equate defending a persons rights, with supporting and respecting them and everything they do. They are nowhere near the same thing. Sure he's probably a douchebag stealing from grandmas via electricity bills, but probably isn't a good enough reason to violate his privacy or call for a lynch mob.


On another note, looks like we have a new ip doing no transaction blocks.

http://blockchain.info/blocks/95.172.9.82
http://blockchain.info/blocks/95.172.9.82 <--- currently mining 0 tx blocks
http://blockchain.info/blocks/85.214.124.168 <---- mined 0 tx blocks from 03/17 - 03/19

Same ISP for both IPs

http://blockchain.info/blocks/95.172.9.82
ISP:

Company Website:
http://www.clara.net
Company Looking Glass:
http://noc.eu.clara.net/lg.php

Country of Origin:
United Kingdom

Someone interested the taking the time to draft a letter to report abuse? We can all copy it and send it in to them reporting that one of their users (or employees) is using their resources to abuse the Bitcoin network?

http://www.claranet.co.uk/about/contact-us.html  <---- Contact page


it may do nothing it all, but it may slow them down or disable them for awhile and it will certainly send the message that we as a community are watching and do not support what they are doing.


EDIT: I made a mistake when I said they were both from the same ISP I was looking at a different IP , however it does not change anything youu can still report abuse to both ISPs

http://blockchain.info/blocks/85.214.124.168
ISP
Type: ROLE
Name: Webmailers Webmaster Workers
Address: Pascalstraße 10
PostalCode: 10587
City: Berlin
CountryCode: DE
Phone:             +49 30 886150     
Fax: +49 30 88615111
Email:
Remarks: see also WWW8-RIPE
Changed: 2005-04-21T19:47:06+02:00

[Zone-C]
Type: ROLE
Name: Hostmaster Xlink
Address: Cronon AG Professional IT-Services
Address: Network Information Center
Address: Emmy-Noether-Str. 10
PostalCode: 76131
City: Karlsruhe
CountryCode: DE
Phone:             +49 721 663203 05     
Fax: +49 721 663203 03
Email:


This on the other hand, is a reasonable course of action.

If they are using this ISP to maintain a massive botnet - the ISP will likely drop them like a bad habit - I am sure it is in violation of any TOS they may have and it would be incredibly bad PR for them and could cause them a lot of problem.

Botnets are big news lately

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/endtoendtrust/vision/botnet.aspx  < -- ClaraNet is a Microsoft Partner
http://www.csoonline.com/article/679523/us-takes-out-coreflood-botnet <-- Department of Justice & FBI take down Bonet

(etc etc etc - check google)

and no ISP is going to want to be seen as a safe haven for them
especially an ISP like CaraNet which is a Microsoft Certified Partner, Dell Partner etc etc



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March 20, 2012, 03:04:21 PM
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I really dont understand what you guys are reading in to those IPs?
The IPS are of whoever is relaying the blocks, you could be looking at the IP of deepbit, or any other pool or random bitcoin user.

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March 20, 2012, 03:12:21 PM
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I really dont understand what you guys are reading in to those IPs?
The IPS are of whoever is relaying the blocks, you could be looking at the IP of deepbit, or any other pool or random bitcoin user.

So your saying its what? A hacked linux box some place? My senile mothers zombie laptop?



we could still  start an investigation that could point in the direction of the botnet

we could still get lucky

it certainly cant hurt Tongue
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March 20, 2012, 03:14:57 PM
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If they are using this ISP to maintain a massive botnet - the ISP will likely drop them like a bad habit - I am sure it is in violation of any TOS they may have and it would be incredibly bad PR for them and could cause them a lot of problem.

Botnets are big news lately

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/endtoendtrust/vision/botnet.aspx  < -- ClaraNet is a Microsoft Partner
http://www.csoonline.com/article/679523/us-takes-out-coreflood-botnet <-- Department of Justice & FBI take down Bonet

(etc etc etc - check google)

and no ISP is going to want to be seen as a safe haven for them
especially an ISP like CaraNet which is a Microsoft Certified Partner, Dell Partner etc etc



Agreed, problem is the node is likely just an infected computer and won't slow him down at all. There is discussion going on how to prevent blocks like this here.

Long term though, with the block reward decreasing there will be more incentive to include transactions. I don't think it's really a big problem though, and even if it were, how do you stop botnets on the bitcoin network? And would people be so upset about it if they processed transactions like any other miner?

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I really dont understand what you guys are reading in to those IPs?
The IPS are of whoever is relaying the blocks, you could be looking at the IP of deepbit, or any other pool or random bitcoin user.

So your saying its what? A hacked linux box some place? My senile mothers zombie laptop?



we could still  start an investigation that could point in the direction of the botnet

we could still get lucky

it certainly cant hurt Tongue

Like my Dad always told me, "You'll never get lucky if you don't try."  Wink

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March 20, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
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I have not been here long but I have been a computer tech for over 15 years. I am currently mining with about 8gh/s and would like to keep expanding. My concerns with this
situation might mean very little to some but i thinks most honest miners would feel the same way. This person is more than likely to have infected more computers then I can imagine.
I have cleaned computers infected to the point they are almost useless. Yes I know that these infected probably don't effect the performance like a regular virus.Still the fact that innocent people are being subjected to theft and paying for this asshole to profit is a disgrace to BTC in my opinion. Do we really want BTC associated with this criminal activity?Stealing CPU and GPU cycles and having thousands of innocent people foot the bill is just plan wrong. I don't think BTC would ever be accepted on a larger scale with a big portion on the so called security being done by the world biggest stolen bot net. I do have a problem with this and would like to know how other true miners feel and not speculators.I don't know the laws in any place but USA but this is criminal here in the states.

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March 20, 2012, 03:18:37 PM
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I really dont understand what you guys are reading in to those IPs?
The IPS are of whoever is relaying the blocks, you could be looking at the IP of deepbit, or any other pool or random bitcoin user.

So your saying its what? A hacked linux box some place? My senile mothers zombie laptop?
we could still  start an investigation that could point in the direction of the botnet
we could still get lucky
it certainly cant hurt Tongue

Mystery miner can relay his blocks through whoever he wants.

If you want to do any investigation, AFAIK, you would need to run a modified bitcoin daemon that logs the IP, but youd need that deamon at the place mystery miner chooses to relay his blocks. If he does so consistently through blockchain or deepbit or whomever, perhaps you can talk to them and ask to log that info and then you might get something, although it would still be hard to tell if that IP is really a MM node or just someone relaying it to deepbit/blockchain/you/me.

Since MM can relay them through anyone he wants, I dont think there is any point, unless Im missing something.

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March 20, 2012, 03:20:55 PM
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I really dont understand what you guys are reading in to those IPs?
The IPS are of whoever is relaying the blocks, you could be looking at the IP of deepbit, or any other pool or random bitcoin user.

So your saying its what? A hacked linux box some place? My senile mothers zombie laptop?



we could still  start an investigation that could point in the direction of the botnet

we could still get lucky

it certainly cant hurt Tongue
The botnet owner can force his blocks to be relayed by anyone that accepts them, which could be another pool, or a bitcoind out on the internet somewhere. Just because the block is FIRST SEEN at some IP address, that does not mean that that IP address is automatically the botnet head controller. You might be notifying the ISP of someone's VPS that they keep a bitcoind on just to help relay txns around the net, which isn't uncommon.

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March 20, 2012, 03:25:48 PM
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Maybe someone can put together a list of 1 tx blocks mined by our new buddy?

I just generated a list of all 1 tx blocks since beginning of this year:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apbj91OWg5HvdElMV0FQVWlGa1lsTThNWVVSenJXeWc

If you need anything else, just ask.

assuming all the mined bitcoins are in the possession of the same entity he or them should now have aprox. 35000 btc...

I'm getting some popcorn, this is getting interesting to watch, no tx blocks count have almost tripled in 3 months

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March 20, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
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As viral-advertising this attitude is very effective. I can imagine someone logining in here in a few weeks and saying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPKWCP36EFE


Hi, the truth is.... I'm Mistery Miner

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March 20, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
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If they are using this ISP to maintain a massive botnet - the ISP will likely drop them like a bad habit - I am sure it is in violation of any TOS they may have and it would be incredibly bad PR for them and could cause them a lot of problem.

Botnets are big news lately

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/endtoendtrust/vision/botnet.aspx  < -- ClaraNet is a Microsoft Partner
http://www.csoonline.com/article/679523/us-takes-out-coreflood-botnet <-- Department of Justice & FBI take down Bonet

(etc etc etc - check google)

and no ISP is going to want to be seen as a safe haven for them
especially an ISP like CaraNet which is a Microsoft Certified Partner, Dell Partner etc etc



Agreed, problem is the node is likely just an infected computer and won't slow him down at all. There is discussion going on how to prevent blocks like this here.

Long term though, with the block reward decreasing there will be more incentive to include transactions. I don't think it's really a big problem though, and even if it were, how do you stop botnets on the bitcoin network? And would people be so upset about it if they processed transactions like any other miner?

Edit:
I really dont understand what you guys are reading in to those IPs?
The IPS are of whoever is relaying the blocks, you could be looking at the IP of deepbit, or any other pool or random bitcoin user.

So your saying its what? A hacked linux box some place? My senile mothers zombie laptop?



we could still  start an investigation that could point in the direction of the botnet

we could still get lucky

it certainly cant hurt Tongue

Like my Dad always told me, "You'll never get lucky if you don't try."  Wink

Yes I think most miners would still have a problem with it. Some of us have more money then other to invest in BTC but we are all on a level playing field. Would you still by a farm of GPU for mining when only 1 person has access to ASIC now and you never will?
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March 20, 2012, 03:40:31 PM
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Yes I think most miners would still have a problem with it. Some of us have more money then other to invest in BTC but we are all on a level playing field. Would you still by a farm of GPU for mining when only 1 person has access to ASIC now and you never will?

Where do you get the idea you have a right to a level playing field?  Is it fair some people have $0.04 per kWh electrical rates and some have $0.30 per kWh.  If it fair some people need to build their farm one GPU at a time and other can drop $15K on a rigbox or LargeCoin?

Miners compete you have no right to any "fairness".  Adapt, overcome, and expand or die.  No different than any other private enterprise.
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March 20, 2012, 03:42:18 PM
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...Are you really advocating lynching based on suspicion?   ...

It is not how matters were solved with horse thieves in the Far West? Because the situation is pretty similar to horse theft.
Of course I were joking. Have you ever heard of someone lynched through the internets?


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Just a quick chart showing the number of 1 TX blocks per day. Click to enlarge:


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