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July 06, 2014, 04:05:59 AM
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What Is Stopping Cryptocurrency Propagation?

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July 06, 2014, 04:26:09 AM
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It's only been invented for 5 years and look how far it has gotten already… I think it's propagating extremely rapidly personally.
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July 06, 2014, 04:35:34 AM
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It does seem to be picking up steam but there is resistance. We will see more of it when the "lion" mentioned in the article realizes it has all ready been wounded. Staying strong handed will be really important when the opposing forces begin to hit back.

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July 06, 2014, 04:41:36 AM
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Government can slow it down or outright banning bitcoin.

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July 06, 2014, 04:46:20 AM
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Government can slow it down or outright banning bitcoin.

There is all ready too much money it bit coin for a country like the US to ban. Our government listens to money and with the etf's and the infrastructure going into place a ban would never happen. They probably will at some point attempt to slow it down with regulations but even that would only slow it down rather than stop it. 

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July 06, 2014, 04:56:47 AM
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I expect cryptos to flourish, so I have introduced bitcoin to a few of my friends. They are having problems with setting up a wallet with bitcoin-qt right off the bat. I then I told them about Electrum and other clients.

The learning curve is steep for new users, including setup and making transactions, then there are transaction fees and change address. Newbies are most vulnerable to theft and lost of keys. It is not difficult for us because we are used to it, but all these needs to change if we what mass adoption.
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July 06, 2014, 05:03:45 AM
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It does seem to be picking up steam but there is resistance. We will see more of it when the "lion" mentioned in the article realizes it has all ready been wounded. Staying strong handed will be really important when the opposing forces begin to hit back.
The "lion" is already trying to claw back. The thing is, it can't find a good enough weakness. But regardless what happens, I feel the community will most likely stand strong through a lot of issues.

Government can slow it down or outright banning bitcoin.
Banning Bitcoin? Good luck with that.

Banning it isn't as easy as just saying "We ban Bitcoin". In the 1900s, in a decade or two, alcohol was banned. What did the people do? Moonshine. In some States marijuana is still illegal, and people grow it in grow-ops and sell it on the street. A ban doesn't just flat-out work, especially for a highly anonymous digital system.

Heck, anything that is "banned" can most likely be purchased or obtained in one form or another, it just needs a bit of... Observation.

Bitcoin can never be fully banned without the entire internet being taken down.

Which has lead me to the question, why have people not started creating direct nodes to self-hosted connection systems? Just being a wired Person-to-Person network could save Bitcoin even if the internet goes down.

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July 06, 2014, 05:13:20 AM
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i would say government is slowing bitcoin the most
as there are no laws or outright bans of bitcoin
businesses are not eager to setup bitcoin in their businesses

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July 06, 2014, 07:01:33 AM
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op, you are asking the wrong question. Why should people use bitcoin is the better question.  Those of us that do use bitcoin get it.  I don't want to use bad language but there's a saying that goes something like this.  Fuck em.  Why should I have sympathy for someone whom doesn't get it. Utopia is now
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July 06, 2014, 07:29:44 AM
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Stepping stones, simply put the process may still be too much of a cliff for some users to utilize and needs to be brought down to make it possible for all users to use.

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July 06, 2014, 09:20:58 AM
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adoption of a new technology will take some time.

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July 06, 2014, 09:49:08 AM
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...  like the "minimum is 0,5mBTC for donation" ... on the bottom of the article (with a balance of a 9 BTC  Grin ).
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July 06, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
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Governments have actually been quite receptive, considering what BTC is. This is a brand new technology, a new asset class. It won't achieve adoption overnight. I think we're doing quite well. Smiley

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July 06, 2014, 10:03:47 AM
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Governments have actually been quite receptive, considering what BTC is. This is a brand new technology, a new asset class. It won't achieve adoption overnight. I think we're doing quite well. Smiley
I'm just not sure what people want.
BTC to be accepted everywhere over night? You can pretty much buy almost anything using BTC now.

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July 06, 2014, 10:40:42 AM
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I think that Mt. Gox scared some people away.. I've talked to a couple people about crypto's and have gotten the response: "Oh, that's the one where a lot of people lost a whole bunch of money on when a whole bunch of them were lost/stolen?"

I also think that it's pretty big as it is, people in Bitcoin are used to exponential growth but that was mostly because people didn't really understand crypto's.. most now have by now heard of it, they have formed opinions, and some are going to get into it but don't see a rush.. if anything they'd like wait till more stores accept it and they can actually use it in various places.

Also, smart money realizes that while none of the platforms are 100% complete, Proof of Stake is going to obsolete Bitcoin.  My money is on Nxt.

Finally, find me another stock where 40% growth in marketcap over 90 days would be something to complain about...

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July 06, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
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It's only been invented for 5 years and look how far it has gotten already… I think it's propagating extremely rapidly personally.

Yes, I don't think it is reasonable to say that Cryptocurrency propagation is being stopped. In fact it's propagating at very high velocity right now.

Cryptocurrency is a totally new concept. It is absolutely impressive how far it has been spreading in just 5 years.

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July 06, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
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It's only been invented for 5 years and look how far it has gotten already… I think it's propagating extremely rapidly personally.


people want to get rich and famous TODAY! no time to waste  Wink ... and they sell when price is +50 $
thats the reason why most people never get "rich". buy high, sell low.

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July 06, 2014, 12:33:50 PM
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Governments have actually been quite receptive, considering what BTC is. This is a brand new technology, a new asset class. It won't achieve adoption overnight. I think we're doing quite well. Smiley

That's mystery to me too. Especially USA govt. I think they are digging the hole for themselves, and it's so good they are that stupid.

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Governments have actually been quite receptive, considering what BTC is. This is a brand new technology, a new asset class. It won't achieve adoption overnight. I think we're doing quite well. Smiley

That's mystery to me too. Especially USA govt. I think they are digging the hole for themselves, and it's so good they are that stupid.

Not just about the bloody US government. For BTC you HAVE to think globally!

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Governments have actually been quite receptive, considering what BTC is. This is a brand new technology, a new asset class. It won't achieve adoption overnight. I think we're doing quite well. Smiley

That's mystery to me too. Especially USA govt. I think they are digging the hole for themselves, and it's so good they are that stupid.

Why did Europe adopt the Euro?  It prevented individual countries from printing their own money and paying their governments with inflation?

I think there actually are people in the government who see potential here and think it's the right way forward and don't want to stand in the way of progress.

Plus they've probably all bought some Bitcoin themselves before making announcements that it is legal Smiley

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July 06, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
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The article says that bitcoin's future hinges on two things: retailers willingness to accept the currency and traders' faith in the currency. Well, the retailers take no real risk with Coinbase/Bitpay and we've seen large companies start accepting bitcoin. That's not the issue.
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Buying and holding bitcoin is also pretty damn easy now (for Americans) with Coinbase. And pretty easy for Europeans with Bitstamp. And pretty easy for Chinese. The main thing holding bitcoin back is the fact that people don't want to hold it unless they're speculating.
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They don't trust it. They think it could crash at any moment. And you know what? It can. So why hold bitcoin compared to a (relatively) rock-solid USD, Euro, or Renminbi? Tim Draper, as seemingly uninformed as he is, is onto the real issue with his venture.
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The next step is to make bitcoin accessible to people who don't want to hold their native currencies. Make bitcoin available to Argentinians, Ukrainians, Turks, and Cypriots who aren't as pampered as us when it comes to currency and won't mind the volatility.
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They don't trust it. They think it could crash at any moment. And you know what? It can. So why hold bitcoin compared to a (relatively) rock-solid USD, Euro, or Renminbi? Tim Draper, as seemingly uninformed as he is, is onto the real issue with his venture.

Certainly, it could crash at any moment. There are still huge risks in this market -- it is still young and untested. The protocol could travel some very rocky roads in the future, and this will be reflected in the price action.

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IMO it's 10 cents tips
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I think the only real thing holding it back is apathy and/or ignorance.  Either people recognise there's a problem and can't be bothered to do anything about it, or they've bought into the FUD in the media and think crypto is a scam.  Or perhaps they're just scraping by and think they're going to be okay.  Every day people complain about stuff like austerity, corruption and debt.  But that's all they do, complain.  Even when they're presented with an alternative, they either don't believe it or they don't care enough to give it a try.  The only thing they've ever known is fiat and anything else is an alien concept.  For most people, anything alien is scary and therefore bad.

The question is, how do we change people's perceptions?  Or do we have to wait until they're driven to the brink of poverty before they're desperate enough to try something new?

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July 06, 2014, 09:22:54 PM
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- "It's still too complex to hold Bitcoin (ok, iPhone wallets etc. are now here, but still requires some knowledge of security if you hold a reasonable amount of digital-cash)"
- "No consumers version to protect against volatility - For example a USD-pegged wallet (There was a beta called Bridgewalker, it died)"
- "Negative image due to bad (FUD or not) PR. Bitcoin's linked to drugs, money launder. Whether that is correct or not."

That is the 3 main reasons I see around me.
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What Is Stopping Cryptocurrency Propagation?

1) Overly complicated security features to protect and or use  coins
2) Too many 'alt' coins that dilute/confuse the 'message'
3) Unusable wallets
4) Too many scams and scammers
5) What is It ?? Money ?? Transaction Network ?? Public Ledger ?? Store of Value ??
6) Arrogance and Indifference of the early adopters towards 'newbies' .. the very people you need to attract

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1) usb key
2) irrelevant
3) developper must reintroduce QR-code generator in bitcoin-core ...
4) people are dumb ... they already trust banker and think that normal to pay tax on credit.
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They don't trust it. They think it could crash at any moment. And you know what? It can. So why hold bitcoin compared to a (relatively) rock-solid USD, Euro, or Renminbi? Tim Draper, as seemingly uninformed as he is, is onto the real issue with his venture.
USD rock solid ? i heard dollars are the biggest bubble in the history of mankind so they created it's successor Bitcoin which will enters Wall Street soon...
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July 06, 2014, 10:40:31 PM
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They don't trust it. They think it could crash at any moment. And you know what? It can. So why hold bitcoin compared to a (relatively) rock-solid USD, Euro, or Renminbi? Tim Draper, as seemingly uninformed as he is, is onto the real issue with his venture.

possible yes, but why are you here then Smiley ?

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