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July 21, 2014, 11:19:14 PM
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For reference, I found a discussion between myself and AnonyMint. For those that know him, I dont need to tell you about AnonyMint. For those that dont, he is brutally honest, very smart and obsessive about anonymity. He worries about stuff like future Quantum Computers cracking all current day encryptions!

So, this thread gives some insight into where I was several months ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470987.msg5581647#msg5581647

Now many of the design details have changed, some thanks to AnonyMint's feedback. As he says the key is being able to trust your privacyServer. Everything revolves around this, so for the truly paranoid, the solution is to setup your own privacyServer. If you cant trust yourself, then who can you trust?

I suggest that people that want to setup privacyServers for the public to use to start preparing now. People will want to know you, to be able to trust you as their privacyServer provider. I will make it so that privacyServer nodes get a percentage of the business that flows through them, eg. InstantDEX commissions. You will also earn nodecoins just for running a node. The privacyServers will eventually need Ddos protection, decent bandwidth, enough RAM. Not sure of the exact specs, but considering the hardware BTCD community put together to get 3 petahashes(!!), I dont see a big problem in getting enough privacyServers setup.

So, it will be a hub and spoke topology and we need to get more hubs than DRK has masternodes. However, just having nodes is not enough, we need to have each hub have at least 10 active users, otherwise attackers can use timing and knapsack analysis to deanonynimize.

I am envisioning the privacyServer providing many services, for example I already have a squid http/https proxy automatic install script. This allows you to get subscribers for http proxy service, which runs about $5 per month. Probably best to charge less to get more customers.

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I hope you guys are working together  Wink

I can't easily follow that description. What is a NXT mixer? Is it a mining peer who won the right to process the next transaction block?

You are explaining in terms of coding details. Can you make an algorithmic description instead?

You've impressed me enough that we should work together.

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July 21, 2014, 11:29:38 PM
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Hi everyone,

For those of you who have been in the irc, I need no introduction. For the rest of you, I am BTCDDev, one of the core devs on this project along with jl777, Azeh, and Torrn. I will be posting here along with them updates, some technical and some not, as we go along. Just though I would introduce myself.

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July 21, 2014, 11:41:52 PM
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For reference, I found a discussion between myself and AnonyMint. For those that know him, I dont need to tell you about AnonyMint. For those that dont, he is brutally honest, very smart and obsessive about anonymity. He worries about stuff like future Quantum Computers cracking all current day encryptions!

So, this thread gives some insight into where I was several months ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470987.msg5581647#msg5581647

Now many of the design details have changed, some thanks to AnonyMint's feedback. As he says the key is being able to trust your privacyServer. Everything revolves around this, so for the truly paranoid, the solution is to setup your own privacyServer. If you cant trust yourself, then who can you trust?

I suggest that people that want to setup privacyServers for the public to use to start preparing now. People will want to know you, to be able to trust you as their privacyServer provider. I will make it so that privacyServer nodes get a percentage of the business that flows through them, eg. InstantDEX commissions. You will also earn nodecoins just for running a node. The privacyServers will eventually need Ddos protection, decent bandwidth, enough RAM. Not sure of the exact specs, but considering the hardware BTCD community put together to get 3 petahashes(!!), I dont see a big problem in getting enough privacyServers setup.

So, it will be a hub and spoke topology and we need to get more hubs than DRK has masternodes. However, just having nodes is not enough, we need to have each hub have at least 10 active users, otherwise attackers can use timing and knapsack analysis to deanonynimize.

I am envisioning the privacyServer providing many services, for example I already have a squid http/https proxy automatic install script. This allows you to get subscribers for http proxy service, which runs about $5 per month. Probably best to charge less to get more customers.

James


James, I will want to test/host a couple of privacyServers on a vps. Just let me know.

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July 22, 2014, 12:07:24 AM
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Just finished coding a basic onion routing support, the confusing part is that you can make requests locally, to the privacyServer or even via broadcast. I want to minimize redundant code so I funnel everything to a single process_packet function, so client, or server or broadcast or tcp or udp, all get processed in the same place.

Somehow it seems to be way too little code for what it does.

Anyway, time for some lunch and then debugging

Once the encrypted comms are stable in the new setup (I had a hardcoded client/server test working), then all but the initial handshake will be encrypted with a session specific public/private key using Daniel Bernsteins nacl library: http://nacl.cr.yp.to/index.html

I use the NXT token generation to sign every packet and it is even timestamped so even if somehow it gets intercepted and decoded, it can't be used in a replay attack.

Its really not anything very spectacular to just send messages back and forth, but this is the foundation on which all the rest of the code will use. Being able to say "send this message to that account" and having it magically get there and being totally encrypted is a very useful foundation.

Sorry it is taking so long, but this is critical code and any loose end could allow attacker to deanonymize, so I have to go slow and careful.

James

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July 22, 2014, 12:08:03 AM
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Thanks for the updates James, keep up the good work bud.
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July 22, 2014, 12:08:52 AM
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For reference, I found a discussion between myself and AnonyMint. For those that know him, I dont need to tell you about AnonyMint. For those that dont, he is brutally honest, very smart and obsessive about anonymity. He worries about stuff like future Quantum Computers cracking all current day encryptions!

So, this thread gives some insight into where I was several months ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470987.msg5581647#msg5581647

Now many of the design details have changed, some thanks to AnonyMint's feedback. As he says the key is being able to trust your privacyServer. Everything revolves around this, so for the truly paranoid, the solution is to setup your own privacyServer. If you cant trust yourself, then who can you trust?

I suggest that people that want to setup privacyServers for the public to use to start preparing now. People will want to know you, to be able to trust you as their privacyServer provider. I will make it so that privacyServer nodes get a percentage of the business that flows through them, eg. InstantDEX commissions. You will also earn nodecoins just for running a node. The privacyServers will eventually need Ddos protection, decent bandwidth, enough RAM. Not sure of the exact specs, but considering the hardware BTCD community put together to get 3 petahashes(!!), I dont see a big problem in getting enough privacyServers setup.

So, it will be a hub and spoke topology and we need to get more hubs than DRK has masternodes. However, just having nodes is not enough, we need to have each hub have at least 10 active users, otherwise attackers can use timing and knapsack analysis to deanonynimize.

I am envisioning the privacyServer providing many services, for example I already have a squid http/https proxy automatic install script. This allows you to get subscribers for http proxy service, which runs about $5 per month. Probably best to charge less to get more customers.

James


James, I will want to test/host a couple of privacyServers on a vps. Just let me know.
OK, for now you can clone https://github.com/jl777/pNXT and make sure you can get it to compile
I hope to get the basic comms working soon and it would help if somebody else can also test

Thanks!

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July 22, 2014, 12:09:52 AM
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hi guys, what happened today for bitcoindark to almost double its value? I am really happy!

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July 22, 2014, 12:12:19 AM
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hi guys, what happened today for bitcoindark to almost double its value? I am really happy!
dev strategy meeting last night and lots of press

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July 22, 2014, 12:19:43 AM
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hi guys, what happened today for bitcoindark to almost double its value? I am really happy!
dev strategy meeting last night and lots of press
Nice one Jl777, is there a link to those press?

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July 22, 2014, 12:26:07 AM
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hi guys, what happened today for bitcoindark to almost double its value? I am really happy!
dev strategy meeting last night and lots of press
Nice one Jl777, is there a link to those press?

Check out the op and our twitter page.

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July 22, 2014, 12:34:07 AM
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For reference, I found a discussion between myself and AnonyMint. For those that know him, I dont need to tell you about AnonyMint. For those that dont, he is brutally honest, very smart and obsessive about anonymity. He worries about stuff like future Quantum Computers cracking all current day encryptions!

So, this thread gives some insight into where I was several months ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470987.msg5581647#msg5581647

Now many of the design details have changed, some thanks to AnonyMint's feedback. As he says the key is being able to trust your privacyServer. Everything revolves around this, so for the truly paranoid, the solution is to setup your own privacyServer. If you cant trust yourself, then who can you trust?

I suggest that people that want to setup privacyServers for the public to use to start preparing now. People will want to know you, to be able to trust you as their privacyServer provider. I will make it so that privacyServer nodes get a percentage of the business that flows through them, eg. InstantDEX commissions. You will also earn nodecoins just for running a node. The privacyServers will eventually need Ddos protection, decent bandwidth, enough RAM. Not sure of the exact specs, but considering the hardware BTCD community put together to get 3 petahashes(!!), I dont see a big problem in getting enough privacyServers setup.

So, it will be a hub and spoke topology and we need to get more hubs than DRK has masternodes. However, just having nodes is not enough, we need to have each hub have at least 10 active users, otherwise attackers can use timing and knapsack analysis to deanonynimize.

I am envisioning the privacyServer providing many services, for example I already have a squid http/https proxy automatic install script. This allows you to get subscribers for http proxy service, which runs about $5 per month. Probably best to charge less to get more customers.

James


James, I will want to test/host a couple of privacyServers on a vps. Just let me know.
OK, for now you can clone https://github.com/jl777/pNXT and make sure you can get it to compile
I hope to get the basic comms working soon and it would help if somebody else can also test

Thanks!

James, I'm happy to put up a privacyServer.  I have access to either dedicated servers or VPS's (I'll use the latter to begin with) and can put DDOS protection in front.  On the trust front, other than my profile here, I'm the co-founder of CryptoThrift, which is registered with ASIC in Australia so my credentials are publicly available.  Other than compiling it, is there anything else you want me to do at this stage?  do you need the node IP or do they self register with the network?  Might be a good idea to get an IRC channel going aside from #bitcoindark so we can work through testing issues?

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July 22, 2014, 12:42:08 AM
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For reference, I found a discussion between myself and AnonyMint. For those that know him, I dont need to tell you about AnonyMint. For those that dont, he is brutally honest, very smart and obsessive about anonymity. He worries about stuff like future Quantum Computers cracking all current day encryptions!

So, this thread gives some insight into where I was several months ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470987.msg5581647#msg5581647

Now many of the design details have changed, some thanks to AnonyMint's feedback. As he says the key is being able to trust your privacyServer. Everything revolves around this, so for the truly paranoid, the solution is to setup your own privacyServer. If you cant trust yourself, then who can you trust?

I suggest that people that want to setup privacyServers for the public to use to start preparing now. People will want to know you, to be able to trust you as their privacyServer provider. I will make it so that privacyServer nodes get a percentage of the business that flows through them, eg. InstantDEX commissions. You will also earn nodecoins just for running a node. The privacyServers will eventually need Ddos protection, decent bandwidth, enough RAM. Not sure of the exact specs, but considering the hardware BTCD community put together to get 3 petahashes(!!), I dont see a big problem in getting enough privacyServers setup.

So, it will be a hub and spoke topology and we need to get more hubs than DRK has masternodes. However, just having nodes is not enough, we need to have each hub have at least 10 active users, otherwise attackers can use timing and knapsack analysis to deanonynimize.

I am envisioning the privacyServer providing many services, for example I already have a squid http/https proxy automatic install script. This allows you to get subscribers for http proxy service, which runs about $5 per month. Probably best to charge less to get more customers.

James


James, I will want to test/host a couple of privacyServers on a vps. Just let me know.
OK, for now you can clone https://github.com/jl777/pNXT and make sure you can get it to compile
I hope to get the basic comms working soon and it would help if somebody else can also test

Thanks!

James, I'm happy to put up a privacyServer.  I have access to either dedicated servers or VPS's (I'll use the latter to begin with) and can put DDOS protection in front.  On the trust front, other than my profile here, I'm the co-founder of CryptoThrift, which is registered with ASIC in Australia so my credentials are publicly available.  Other than compiling it, is there anything else you want me to do at this stage?  do you need the node IP or do they self register with the network?  Might be a good idea to get an IRC channel going aside from #bitcoindark so we can work through testing issues?
I prefer to use this thread for comms. The community should see all the stuff going on. You never know when someone lurking has the answer that can help. That is the power of decentralization!

Anyway, you have to convince the community, not me.
Some people have reported difficulty compiling, so if we can get foolproof instructions on how to compile it, that would be nice.
Also, I am rapid developing the master branch without regard to stability now, so no guarantees of what state the version you make is in. If it loads, that is good enough for now

This is a full cryptonote fork + my encrypted network overlay injected into it. All the nodes connect via p2p network, but each user needs to specifically choose a privacy server to use.

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July 22, 2014, 01:16:31 AM
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greetings, I am on dark.poolx.ca mining for 30+ hrs with 20 gh and 6 mh and no payout. just looking to see if anyone has had a payout there in the past 24 hrs i tried to jump on irc but so far i have gone unheard. bout to switch to the other multi

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July 22, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
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I didnt realize volumes at cryptsy was so high!
Also, we broke .001 price briefly there:

DRK/BTC    DarkCoin            68.6 BTC   0.01078000   0.01147000 BTC   0.01076488 BTC
BTCD/BTC    BitcoinDark    59.1 BTC   0.00095000   0.00105000 BTC   0.00036200 BTC

Almost same volumes as DRK!
And cryptsy is one of the top DRK volume places

I guess I should stop goofing off and get to work Smiley

James


Haha James,

I bought at 13k, don't worry about me buying or selling on current price Cheesy

Will keep this coin as long as possible
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July 22, 2014, 01:21:44 AM
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LOOKS LIKE BITCOINDARK MULTIPOOL IS NOW btcd.xpool.ca
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July 22, 2014, 01:29:46 AM
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Hi James,

I have an error linking pNXT.  If you're happy to discuss the issues here than ok, but I'll use pastebin for the errors otherwise it's going to get bloated here really fast Smiley

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July 22, 2014, 01:57:16 AM
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Looks like we might test .001
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July 22, 2014, 01:59:46 AM
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Looks like we might test .001

Cryptsy has already blown past that  Wink
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July 22, 2014, 02:06:33 AM
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I'm almost 100% it will pass DRK at some point.

Really see potential here. The good thing is that not a lot of people want to sell their stash, even at these prices Smiley

Also a plus that that there are multipools for BTCD. It keeps te price stable.
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just bought here.. steady uptrend very healthy!
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