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September 06, 2014, 06:50:27 AM
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Just out.

More information about UROSE 2014 As reported by BItcoinist.

http://bitcoinist.net/exclusive-interview-with-the-uro-foundation-urose/

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The paranoia & delusion is obvious among the bagholders.
There have been ridiculous claims that "Chang" is "Truthful" or that I'm somebody else or that others like Guglumugli have multiple accounts.  When it's known that bagholders like "Bad Ass" have other accounts.
The paranoia & delusional statements & obvious manipulation by bagholders show that this is a scam. Not to mention the constant aggressive manner towards those with legitimate questions. True-Asset said he'd answer questions. Since that hasn't happened then he's got something to hide & he hasn't provided correct information. If information about the so-called meeting in HK needs to be a secret or not ALL information is publicly available then the so-called transparency & values they claim to have is not true.

I guess we'll find out for sure if URO is a scam or not at the URO Special Event on October 29 in Hong Kong. They already sent the press release to several news sites. There is already a list of confirmed attendees. Special projects will be announced. Now you can contact and verify with those attendees if URO is for real or not. Besides from bitcoin, are there any other coins that launch this kind of events? If UROSE does not take place, then urocoin is a scam and you are right by warning everybody and we bag holders will take responsibility for our losses. But if the UROSE is real and it turns to be a big event, then you are wrong and and have caused others to miss a lot.

So which is which? Let everyone decide for himself. Let everyone do his own research and not readily believe others claiming the coin is true or is a scam.

Let's see what happens. The countdown starts now.
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September 06, 2014, 07:38:05 AM
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The paranoia & delusion is obvious among the bagholders.
There have been ridiculous claims that "Chang" is "Truthful" or that I'm somebody else or that others like Guglumugli have multiple accounts.  When it's known that bagholders like "Bad Ass" have other accounts.
The paranoia & delusional statements & obvious manipulation by bagholders show that this is a scam. Not to mention the constant aggressive manner towards those with legitimate questions. True-Asset said he'd answer questions. Since that hasn't happened then he's got something to hide & he hasn't provided correct information. If information about the so-called meeting in HK needs to be a secret or not ALL information is publicly available then the so-called transparency & values they claim to have is not true.

I guess we'll find out for sure if URO is a scam or not at the URO Special Event on October 29 in Hong Kong. They already sent the press release to several news sites. There is already a list of confirmed attendees. Special projects will be announced. Now you can contact and verify with those attendees if URO is for real or not. Besides from bitcoin, are there any other coins that launch this kind of events? If UROSE does not take place, then urocoin is a scam and you are right by warning everybody and we bag holders will take responsibility for our losses. But if the UROSE is real and it turns to be a big event, then you are wrong and and have caused others to miss a lot.

So which is which? Let everyone decide for himself. Let everyone do his own research and not readily believe others claiming the coin is true or is a scam.

Let's see what happens. The countdown starts now.

And that, my friend, is the best post I've seen in this topic. Well said!
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September 06, 2014, 10:17:01 AM
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Isn't crypto currency illegal in Cambodia?

There's no mention of anything about Iran?

The interview was not a face-to face interview.

They can answer a series of questions however they want. Did they pay "bitcoinist.net" to post the information up for them to make it seem like an interview?

Why did they need to create another website about this so-called meeting???

This just raises more questions on top of the others, which have not been answered.
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September 06, 2014, 10:28:24 AM
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Isn't crypto currency illegal in Cambodia?

There's no mention of anything about Iran?

The interview was not a face-to face interview.

They can answer a series of questions however they want. Did they pay "bitcoinist.net" to post the information up for them to make it seem like an interview?

Why did they need to create another website about this so-called meeting???

This just raises more questions on top of the others, which have not been answered.

Truthful, "bitcoinist.net" take such interviews all the time. Its not only URO. they are never face-to-face
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so what kind of Foundation is URO?

http://www.grantspace.org/tools/Knowledge-Base/Funding-Resources/Foundations/what-is-a-foundation


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"The Uro Foundation is the non-profit volunteer organization that oversees the long term development, growth and maintenance of the Uro currency ecosystem by providing long term technical and marketing support."

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If Uro Foundation is a charity??? lol, which it's not as there are so many people expecting to profit from Uro.

It's not registered as a 'foundation' in Hong Kong if we take it to be true that it's all based in Hong Kong. So all the hype about it being a foundation is false as you can see from these links

http://api.ning.com/files/-xwD0Jryvo*LMoOoNVcLqkM*xs3RN2nqQrh5IjBNnkLUyypn8fvRx6DQf-VA4Kiq3ZlWUjO2uW51Scpgggn5sxbSUM456tGT/FormationNGOandCharitiesUpdated_HK.pdf

http://www.ird.gov.hk/eng/tax/ach_tgc.htm
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If Uro Foundation is a charity??? lol, which it's not as there are so many people expecting to profit from Uro.

It's not registered as a 'foundation' in Hong Kong if we take it to be true that it's all based in Hong Kong. So all the hype about it being a foundation is false as you can see from these links

http://api.ning.com/files/-xwD0Jryvo*LMoOoNVcLqkM*xs3RN2nqQrh5IjBNnkLUyypn8fvRx6DQf-VA4Kiq3ZlWUjO2uW51Scpgggn5sxbSUM456tGT/FormationNGOandCharitiesUpdated_HK.pdf

http://www.ird.gov.hk/eng/tax/ach_tgc.htm

Truthful, URO Foundation is in Australia. GES is in HK.
I just dont know if they are public or private foundation. I did not read anything about Foundation yet..but of course it sounds good
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did URO Foundation finally receive those PRYPTO CARDS? Can you please make picture of them and post like the rest of the crypto community would do?
ps. are those cards activated yet?
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If Uro Foundation is in Australia then have they registered it?

See these links

https://www.ato.gov.au/Non-profit/

http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Charities+registered+with+the+ACNC?openDocument
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you can try to ask Bohan if URO Foundation is registered. I can not tell you that.
I thought they are all located in HK, but since we all know thats not the case, URO Foundation is located in Australia = Bohan Huang (true-asset)
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The Uro Foundation is not registered with the "Australian Charity and Not-for-Profits Organisation" (ACNC)

http://www.acnc.gov.au/

http://www.acnc.gov.au/ACNC/FindCharity/SearchRegister/ACNC/OnlineProcessors/Online_register/Search_the_Register.aspx?noleft=1&hkey=4cffc3e0-00db-4548-91a8-bb2860e8d137

True-Asset= Nilesh Nair and Bohan Huang.
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Guglimugli: You said, "You can try to ask Bohan if URO Foundation is registered."

That makes me laugh as the problem is they don't answer any questions, lol  Smiley

Have they ever answered any questions?
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URO FOUNDATION:

http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?abn=31567560576

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so what kind of Foundation is URO?
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I am not able to find that Uro Foundation ACN: 567560576 here..but TruHD is listed:


http://www.search.asic.gov.au/cgi-bin/gns030c?acn=160032093


maybe i am searching wrong, but I am sure you can help  Grin
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Bohan, you should read this:

https://www.ato.gov.au/Media-centre/Media-releases/ATO-delivers-guidance-on-Bitcoin/

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/24763752/bitcoin-australias-tax-office-announces-it-will-not-treat-popular-digital-currency-as-money/
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112311/australias-tax-office-releases-bitcoin-guidelines

"The ATO has released its anticipated guidance on crypto-currencies, saying Bitcoin or other digital currency payments will be taxed like a non-cash barter transaction."
--> this is the reason why GES is now registered in HK, to avoid paying taxes.

"ATO says that there won't be any income taxes or GTS tax implications for people who are not in business"

URO Foundation is registered in Australia and its not paying GTS. Does the australian government even know your so called "Foundation" is using crypto currency?
You should focus less on Cambodia and take care of your own business in AUS. I will make sure, the right people are informed about URO Foundation and its business.
You keep talking about multi-million partnerships. How about UROEX? Why is that domain private? You do not want to show that you are behind that one as well?


You should contact Michael Hardy or should I do it for you?
http://www.directory.gov.au/directory?ea0_lf99_120.&organizationalUnit&0db6e2a6-673d-4266-82ef-f91e5f5975e0
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According to http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?abn=31567560576 Uro is an Unicorporated Identity. It's like a club. It's not a charity!

The definition of an Unicorporated Identity is

An other unincorporated entity is a number of people grouped together by a common purpose with club-like characteristics, for example, a sporting club, social club or trade union.
Some club-like characteristics are that:
there are members of the association
the members will normally be free to join or leave the association
the association will normally continue in existence independently of any change to the composition of the association
as a matter of history, there will have been a moment in time when a number of persons combined to form the association
there is a contract (which can fall short of a legally enforceable contract) binding the members among themselves, and
there is a constitutional arrangement for meetings of members and for appointing officers.
The meaning of any other unincorporated association or body of persons does not include a non-entity joint venture.

Further information here.
http://www.lawhandbook.org.au/handbook/ch11s03s03.php#Ch1303Se258007
Unincorporated associations

Groups are free to decide against a formal structure. In the eyes of the law, the group will remain a collection of individuals; the law will (generally) not recognise the group as a separate entity. This could well mean very little to many people, as in their eyes they will readily identify the existence of the group and its operation separate to the individuals that constitute it.

Despite the fact that there is little formal structure required of unincorporated associations, most groups will, as a minimum, need to choose a collective name and adopt rules of association that will set out such things as: the objects of the association, membership qualifications, subscription fees, management of meetings, financial matters, dissolution and amendment of the rules.

Although officers of the organisation will be personally liable for its obligations, this can, in practice, be limited by indemnification (insurance).

The advantages of unincorporated associations are that the structure is very flexible and the least costly and time consuming of any form of organisational structure.

The disadvantages of such associations are:

the liability of members is unlimited;
there is no perpetual succession; all property acquired by the association belongs to the individual members;
similarly, gifts or trusts in wills cannot generally be made to an unincorporated association;
the association cannot (generally) sue or be sued in its own name; and
members of the association may not have clear contractual or proprietary rights in relation to the association.

lol, lol if anything goes wrong with your Uro you might not be able to sue them! But the liability of members is unlimited!!

Read this

http://www.ausport.gov.au/__data/assets/word_doc/0007/454930/Fact_Sheet_-_Incorporation.doc.

Is this really a joint venture see pages 9-10 of this

http://www.harrislaw.com.au/Limiting%20Liability%20&%20Protecting%20Assets%20with%20Business%20Structures.pdf


If Uro Foundation is registered in Australia, not in Hong Kong does that mean that the company most liable is GES AU  and that would mean that GES AU is a part of all this even though it's been claimed it's not!

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September 06, 2014, 01:02:24 PM
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I am not able to find that Uro Foundation ACN: 567560576 here..but TruHD is listed:


http://www.search.asic.gov.au/cgi-bin/gns030c?acn=160032093


maybe i am searching wrong, but I am sure you can help  Grin

Looks like he went and registered it in some form after I said a foundation is the specific name of a legal vehicle and you can't just call yourself one lol! Sad thing is if he put this much effort into something positive...

Not sure if an ABN relates to a foundation in anyway or they've bothered to set up according to the law, can't be fucked to check either!
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Bohan, Nilesh ..are you recording this information already?


A Double Tax?

Businesses, however, are an entirely different matter in the ATO’s eyes and it is here that the problem of potential double taxing appears. Businesses must record the value of all Bitcoin transactions with the rest of their ordinary income. But when they supply Bitcoin to a client, they must charge GST and in many cases are subject to GST when receiving payment in Bitcoin for goods and services as well. One government website explained it this way:

    “If you receive payment by Bitcoin, you’ll need to record:

        The date of the transaction
        The amount in Australian dollars (a reputable bitcoin exchange can tell you this)
        What the transaction was for
        Who the other person or business was.

    Bitcoin payments made to you by customers will become part of your taxable income. You may also have to pay GST when receiving Bitcoin in return for goods and services.”

Source: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112362/australias-tax-office-guidelines-open-door-to-double-taxing-other-problems
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