Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

[cypherdoc]

Seeing as it's information revealed in a public and decently high-profile bankruptcy case anyway: Dr. Marc A. Lowe from California.

Since you're always trying to push the bounds of you appearing to be fair and since you are in the same public case, why aren't you revealing your own identity? Or are you just trying to harass me? .

See: left

And you did it first in this thread :p

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.msg11554258;topicseen#msg11554258

To your level and without provocation? What's your identity out of fairness son?

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[vokain]

Seeing as it's information revealed in a public and decently high-profile bankruptcy case anyway: Dr. Marc A. Lowe from California.

Since you're always trying to push the bounds of you appearing to be fair and since you are in the same public case, why aren't you revealing your own identity? Or are you just trying to harass me? .

See: left

And you did it first in this thread :p

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.msg11554258;topicseen#msg11554258

To your level and without provocation? What's your identity out of fairness son?

What are we afraid of here? Ourselves?

"אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה"

[cypherdoc]

Seeing as it's information revealed in a public and decently high-profile bankruptcy case anyway: Dr. Marc A. Lowe from California.

Since you're always trying to push the bounds of you appearing to be fair and since you are in the same public case, why aren't you revealing your own identity? Or are you just trying to harass me? .

See: left

And you did it first in this thread :p

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.msg11554258;topicseen#msg11554258

To your level and without provocation? What's your identity out of fairness son?

What are we afraid of here? Ourselves?

אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה

simply avoiding what's fair I see.  What's fair for me is not fair for you it appears. I hope you're proud of yourself.

[vokain]

Seeing as it's information revealed in a public and decently high-profile bankruptcy case anyway: Dr. Marc A. Lowe from California.

Since you're always trying to push the bounds of you appearing to be fair and since you are in the same public case, why aren't you revealing your own identity? Or are you just trying to harass me? .

See: left

And you did it first in this thread :p

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68655.msg11554258;topicseen#msg11554258

To your level and without provocation? What's your identity out of fairness son?

What are we afraid of here? Ourselves?

אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה

simply avoiding what's fair I see.  What's fair for me is not fair for you it appears. I hope you're proud of yourself.

What, you mean your selling your identity to HashFast versus my giving mine away? It's what we chose, and I think that's fair for us both.

[TPTB_need_war]

simply avoiding what's fair I see.  What's fair for me is not fair for you it appears. I hope you're proud of yourself.

As I suspected, upthread you are criticizing Gregory Maxwell for receiving hardware donations and using those to mine (ostensibly a somewhat tax deferred paradigm to receive a larger renumeration for his development efforts which we have benefited from), and the skeleton lurking in your closet is you've been into hoodwinking Bitcoin ASIC miners and the forum members simultaneously to the amount of 3000 BTC!

Then you have the audacity to accuse me of leeching $10,000 off of the members of your thread as if you own them, boasting that you made this thread so popular.

I am a very astute read of personality. I said you are controlling minds and now the vested interest is clear.

You are a snake oil salesman ripping off the community.

These forums are rife with hidden corruption. Readers beware. Not all is what meets the eye. Usually the accuser is the one who is doing what he accuses others of doing. (this is a common human characteristic)

I suspect doctors are prone to these forms of "soft fraud". They go to medical school because they want to be rich and use the corruption of the State and professional licensing cabal to capture higher rents on society. Thus of course they have strong vested interest to believe that society and the State won't collapse. The double-speak.

What is happening to you now is potentially only the tip of the iceberg of the crumbling of your life coming...if you don't mea culpa to yourself about your slimy ethics...

Btw, I graduated from Culver City High School in 1983 and lived in Camarillo and Thousand Oaks, California when I wrote Word Up in 1986. And I made frequent trips up to UC Santa Barbara around that time. I was accepted and invited by the Dean of the Engineering department to enroll but declined to attend my father's alma mater in the deep south.

Any time you'd like to test out that black belt against an autodidact boxer with vision in one eye, let's give it a whirl in the ring wif I am in town? May I come on over? For sport of course, but just take a look at Antonio Margarito's face after the Pacquio fight to note this sport has consequences.

Btw, I had 100% retinal detachment in my right on Dec. 1 1999. I paid cash for the best surgeon in the USA to save my eye. The pressure dropped to 1 after the 3rd surgery and he was ready to remove the eye. He wanted to attempt one more surgery as a last ditch attempt, and I told him to stop everything. I threw out the bottle of steroid drops and went to the gym nonstop for the next days and weeks. Next doctor visit my eye pressure had increased to 4 and he was amazed (he had never seen that recovery in his practice). Then 7, Then 11. Now 14 years later I still have the eye. Hoping for innovation so I can get a cornea transplant (mine is horrible condition) and a new lens (mine fell out) and maybe even some repair of the interface between the patchwork quilt retina I have remaining and the optic nerve.

[ssmc2]

[iCEBREAKER]

What, you mean your selling your identity to HashFast versus my giving mine away? It's what we chose, and I think that's fair for us both.

An online persona (including reputation) isn't the same thing as a True Name.  Disclosure/use of cypher's offline identity was never part of his deal with HF.

[inca]

For some reason I unignored anonymint. That aberration didn't last long.

[vokain]

What, you mean your selling your identity to HashFast versus my giving mine away? It's what we chose, and I think that's fair for us both.

An online persona (including reputation) isn't the same thing as a True Name.  Disclosure/use of cypher's offline identity was never part of his deal with HF.

Sure, maybe legalistically.

[TPTB_need_war]

What, you mean your selling your identity to HashFast versus my giving mine away? It's what we chose, and I think that's fair for us both.

An online persona (including reputation) isn't the same thing as a True Name.  Disclosure/use of cypher's offline identity was never part of his deal with HF.

Cypherdoc employed his fraudulent reputation to pressure me to reveal my and even the audacity to try to pressure me to confirm my True Name.

Typical of politicians, oligarchs, and cartels, he forces his competitors to trial by public fire while hiding his dirty laundry behind the protection of his power over the group.

His entire modus operandi is the typical mind control pump promoter snake oil salesman paradigm of a politician or silver bug stock promoter leeching off his own readers.

He doesn't like Armstrong, because he doesn't like the competition for the control over your minds.

Cyperdoc will never write a single line of code to help us. He is not a worker. He is leeching off of us who will actually do the work in the trenches.

[cypherdoc]

Obviously, I'm not allowed to talk about the case. vokain shamelessly knows this so he can freely go off.

[TPTB_need_war]

For some reason I unignored anonymint.

His profile is closed and he can post any more.

Amazing all the time wasted on political dick measuring. Can we just go to the boxing ring and make the process more efficient?

[vokain]

Obviously, I'm not allowed to talk about the case. vokain shamelessly knows this so he can freely go off.

Actually I didn't until you said you were, but it's besides the point. I've removed myself from the case as far as I could for the most part, and it no longer matters to me. Thank you for the blessing.

[TPTB_need_war]

Obviously, I'm not allowed to talk about the case. vokain shamelessly knows this so he can freely go off.

Fact: promoted hardware that never shipped and a company that went bankrupt while pocketing 3000 BTC.

Speculation: ostensibly from the pockets of forum members who made deposits.

Fact: you have pitched yourself as one who got wealthy buying BTC low and early, but you never disclosed what % of your ROI was not due to investment but rather profiting off your reputation here.

You can talk about why we should trust your judgement?

P.S. I tried to warn you to stop digging your hole but you just couldn't stop. If you had stopped, I would have never learned about this. Vokain never mentioned this to me.

[cypherdoc]

What, you mean your selling your identity to HashFast versus my giving mine away? It's what we chose, and I think that's fair for us both.

An online persona (including reputation) isn't the same thing as a True Name.  Disclosure/use of cypher's offline identity was never part of his deal with HF.

Cypherdoc employed his fraudulent reputation to pressure me to reveal my and even the audacity to try to pressure me to confirm my True Name.

Typical of politicians, oligarchs, and cartels, he forces his competitors to trial by public fire while hiding his dirty laundry behind the protection of his power over the group.

His entire modus operandi is the typical mind control pump promoter snake oil salesman paradigm of a politician or silver bug stock promoter leeching off his own readers.

He doesn't like Armstrong, because he doesn't like the competition for the control over your minds.

Cyperdoc will never write a single line of code to help us. He is not a worker. He is leeching off of us who will actually do the work in the trenches.

Your paranoia shows no bounds. And neither did your bravado. So only coders can contribute to the cause? How well then do you understand money which is a store of value whether it be from coding or doctoring? That same money off mine which has supported much of this community and specifically coding?

To all the non ciders in the room we see a trend here in opinion depending on who you are.

[TPTB_need_war]

I understand economics and money much more thoroughly than you ever will. You ignore experts such as Armstrong who has been studying money since he was a teenager. Largest hedge fund manager in history managing $3 trillion for the Japanese. Cripes man the audacity you have.

Just keeping digging your hole man. Mea culpa isn't in your vocabulary.

Hot shot doctor from California. You've always been the super star. The fall will be hard on you. I have already been at the bottom. I love the bottom. No problem for me.

And you really care about Africans 

[justusranvier]

So only coders can contribute to the cause?

Nobody expects an architect to spend time welding, or an electrical engineer to be proficient at bending conduit.

In every other field except software, everyone understands that there's a division of labor between the designers and engineers who work out what should be built and the trademen who actually build it.

[cypherdoc]

Obviously, I'm not allowed to talk about the case. vokain shamelessly knows this so he can freely go off.

Actually I didn't until you said you were, but it's besides the point. I've removed myself from the case as far as I could for the most part, and it no longer matters to me. Thank you for the blessing.

You have in place practically one of the largest monetary claims of all. You're lying.

[TPTB_need_war]

So only coders can contribute to the cause?

Nobody expects an architect to spend time welding, or an electrical engineer to be proficient at bending conduit.

In every other field except software, everyone understands that there's a division of labor between the designers and engineers who work out what should be built and the trademen who actually build it.

But eye doctors are not more expert at software marketing than proven software marketers.

And eye doctors are not more expert at the study of money and economic history than experts who have invested $1 billion in a database and managed $3 trillion in sovereign funds.

And WTF has he added of substance? A lot of "all for one, one for all" mind control noise causing newbies to buy Bitcoin at $600 while he was profiting off them with slimy back dealing?

Etc..

Why am I wasting my time here on this charlatan  

[vokain]

Obviously, I'm not allowed to talk about the case. vokain shamelessly knows this so he can freely go off.

Actually I didn't until you said you were, but it's besides the point. I've removed myself from the case as far as I could for the most part, and it no longer matters to me. Thank you for the blessing.

You have in place practically one of the largest monetary claims of all. You're lying.

Yeah it might be nice to get some more money, but it literally doesn't mean a thing to me. My dad passed away recently.