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August 06, 2014, 04:47:28 AM
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Example of how Automatic Transactions can be used to hide Real Transactions in the block-chain.

http://i.imgur.com/MlXdMxh.png

Looking forward to the next update by the dev! Smiley
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August 06, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
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where do you see the community? its us... we dont even have trolls..


 
 
 
 
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August 06, 2014, 06:40:52 AM
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where do you see the community? its us... we dont even have trolls..


Man... THis is pathetic. Do you want me to be your troll? I never done it before, but I can try it Smiley


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August 06, 2014, 08:10:03 AM
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Give it a chance and be patient. The research into this is good and the concept could work, which distinguishes the coin from the rest. You have to look a little bit deeper into the potential and it is one of those things that if it catches on it will be big, but it is not overnight and you have to take a view towards Q4 2014 or Q1 2015. High risk high reward. There is nothing like get rich quick in crypto. Also, dont invest what you cannot afford to lose. As I always say, if something comes of this fine if not also fine.
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August 06, 2014, 03:55:21 PM
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stafur, so the auto transactions can also be used as some kind of anon? or am i understanding it wrong?
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August 06, 2014, 04:23:59 PM
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stafur, so the auto transactions can also be used as some kind of anon? or am i understanding it wrong?

The rigorous statement is, Automatic Transactions provide a measure of Privacy for Real Transactions.
If having a measure of Privacy for Real Transactions is considered anon, then yes. Wink

For example the following statistics for a group of transactions with a random number of coins per transaction:

Expected Coins: 1.0
Sent Coins: 1.00001519061
%diff: 0.00151906075267
Norm. Max. Dist., Norm. Sum. Dist.: 0.00709537, 1.00000000


https://www.dropbox.com/s/2e2hba6ddgt8x0f/ProbDensCoinsTrans-100tries-4addresses-08-2014-SergioTafur.png

[edit] The nice thing about this approach is that there is not need to tag and/or track any transactions. The statistics take care of making sure that each address receives the appropriate amount of coins.  Grin
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August 06, 2014, 04:36:01 PM
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ah ok thx i think i understand. your graphics look great but for a normal user like me they are prety hard to understand at first sight lol.

but if i understand correctly all those automatic transactions are basically fake transactions to put up a smoke screen for the real transaction?

so this way you have anon/privacy right?

is so this would be great as privacy/anon gives much extra value to a coin.
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ah ok thx i think i understand. your graphics look great but for a normal user like me they are prety hard to understand at first sight lol.

Thanks!

but if i understand correctly all those automatic transactions are basically fake transactions to put up a smoke screen for the real transaction?

so this way you have anon/privacy right?

is so this would be great as privacy/anon gives much extra value to a coin.

Yes, automatic transactions are "fake" transactions, which are added to the block chain, that have the same probability profile as the real transactions. This makes real transactions statistically identical to automatic ones in the blockchain. (by "fake" I mean that the coins do not switch owners, they change addresses in the output transactions within a tx in the block that is being added to the blockchain)

Certainly, privacy/anon of this type which is a core feature of TRUSTplus, gives/adds much value to the coin. (note: this type of privacy/anon is mathematically and rigorously provable)

In fact, as soon as I complete the paper I am writing, I will begin developing an android app that facilitates this type of transaction from mobile devices for TRUSTplus!

Wink
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August 06, 2014, 07:03:41 PM
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I do own a large lump some of TRUST, I would love to see TRUST make it back into the top volume again on Miss Bitty.
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August 06, 2014, 08:24:03 PM
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my problem is that when i hear mitchel talking... that he got 100 paper wallets and went to the streets... i dont think that loos professional at all...

you go door by door and say what? the bot actually managed to kill us...

ccex will be removing us.... bittrex will soon...


 
 
 
 
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August 06, 2014, 08:54:09 PM
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my problem is that when i hear mitchel talking... that he got 100 paper wallets and went to the streets... i dont think that loos professional at all...

you go door by door and say what? the bot actually managed to kill us...

ccex will be removing us.... bittrex will soon...

i agree with that.
There should be more social media activity to attract people.

Meanwhile i see more development activity in this forum.
It is waiting that the dev deliver.

You can't wait too long in crypto.
Everybody know that.


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August 06, 2014, 09:00:23 PM
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my problem is that when i hear mitchel talking... that he got 100 paper wallets and went to the streets... i dont think that loos professional at all...

you go door by door and say what? the bot actually managed to kill us...

ccex will be removing us.... bittrex will soon...

i agree with that.
There should be more social media activity to attract people.

Meanwhile i see more development activity in this forum.
It is waiting that the dev deliver.

You can't wait too long in crypto.
Everybody know that.



I agree that the statement you mention took me a back a little as well. However, I think the dev was looking for support from his local community and I see no fault in his efforts. He is paying programmers to do this work and he has to raise the capital necessary to ensure that the programmers get paid.

I would recommend that we keep in mind that a "community" is worth more than the sum of its parts. (and by community I mean those of us, including the dev, who are engaged in making things happen for the coin)

From what I have seen, the initial and holding investors that support the core features and principles of this coin are conscious of what it would take to help this coin continue to grow. Personally I am leveraging my own experience and expertise as a contributing member of this "community".

Certainly, the proof that I have provided, and which I will document in my paper, about the privacy associated with transactions amid automatic ones should help support this claim. Once that is complete I am moving into a mobile programming phase to deploy those capabilities into a mobile app.

Growing a real investment takes work and I am willing to contribute my fair share. Please help me to help you grow our shared investment.

We can all put work in with social media activity to attract people. You can start by sharing the discussions and images presented in this forum. You can always refer those with questions here or the IRC chat room to have their questions answered. Smiley
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August 06, 2014, 11:51:28 PM
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my problem is that when i hear mitchel talking... that he got 100 paper wallets and went to the streets... i dont think that loos professional at all...

you go door by door and say what? the bot actually managed to kill us...

ccex will be removing us.... bittrex will soon...

i agree with that.
There should be more social media activity to attract people.

Meanwhile i see more development activity in this forum.
It is waiting that the dev deliver.

You can't wait too long in crypto.
Everybody know that.



I agree that the statement you mention took me a back a little as well. However, I think the dev was looking for support from his local community and I see no fault in his efforts. He is paying programmers to do this work and he has to raise the capital necessary to ensure that the programmers get paid.

I would recommend that we keep in mind that a "community" is worth more than the sum of its parts. (and by community I mean those of us, including the dev, who are engaged in making things happen for the coin)

From what I have seen, the initial and holding investors that support the core features and principles of this coin are conscious of what it would take to help this coin continue to grow. Personally I am leveraging my own experience and expertise as a contributing member of this "community".

Certainly, the proof that I have provided, and which I will document in my paper, about the privacy associated with transactions amid automatic ones should help support this claim. Once that is complete I am moving into a mobile programming phase to deploy those capabilities into a mobile app.

Growing a real investment takes work and I am willing to contribute my fair share. Please help me to help you grow our shared investment.

We can all put work in with social media activity to attract people. You can start by sharing the discussions and images presented in this forum. You can always refer those with questions here or the IRC chat room to have their questions answered. Smiley

agree..

meanwhile i stake a bag with coins  Grin .

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August 07, 2014, 04:22:02 AM
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While waiting for the dev work to be finalised, the community can assist with preventing a de-listing from Bittrex by maintaining an average volume of around 0.1 BTC per day or slightly more between buys and sells, which is easy to achieve. Once dev work is finished and rollout starts, volume should increase gradually over the threshold.
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August 07, 2014, 04:36:54 AM
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While waiting for the dev work to be finalised, the community can assist with preventing a de-listing from Bittrex by maintaining an average volume of around 0.1 BTC per day or slightly more between buys and sells, which is easy to achieve. Once dev work is finished and rollout starts, volume should increase gradually over the threshold.

Would also recommend mining at CoinKing and converting to TRUST. I'm currently mining 24 7 there and converting to TRUST.
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August 07, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
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Well some good news.  Today Trust saw a rise of +9.68% on Bittrex and yesterday there was a +189.7% rise on Poloniex  Smiley

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August 07, 2014, 12:07:19 PM
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yeah i sold a few of my coins because i needed them to buy nav coin, my other fav coin.

So dont worry about the dump today its no panic dump, i will buy back within a couple of days when my new btc arrived at bittrex.

also it looks like bot isnt that active anymore...he is not buying back any coins and it seems he only sells now, but only the sell orders he already placed (price go down slightly every few days if nobody buys)...
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August 07, 2014, 12:32:16 PM
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While waiting for the dev work to be finalised, the community can assist with preventing a de-listing from Bittrex by maintaining an average volume of around 0.1 BTC per day or slightly more between buys and sells, which is easy to achieve. Once dev work is finished and rollout starts, volume should increase gradually over the threshold.

Would also recommend mining at CoinKing and converting to TRUST. I'm currently mining 24 7 there and converting to TRUST.


Thanks.  I have now pointed my mining rig there too.  Smiley

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August 07, 2014, 12:34:44 PM
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ah ok thx i think i understand. your graphics look great but for a normal user like me they are prety hard to understand at first sight lol.

Thanks!

but if i understand correctly all those automatic transactions are basically fake transactions to put up a smoke screen for the real transaction?

so this way you have anon/privacy right?

is so this would be great as privacy/anon gives much extra value to a coin.

Yes, automatic transactions are "fake" transactions, which are added to the block chain, that have the same probability profile as the real transactions. This makes real transactions statistically identical to automatic ones in the blockchain. (by "fake" I mean that the coins do not switch owners, they change addresses in the output transactions within a tx in the block that is being added to the blockchain)

Certainly, privacy/anon of this type which is a core feature of TRUSTplus, gives/adds much value to the coin. (note: this type of privacy/anon is mathematically and rigorously provable)

In fact, as soon as I complete the paper I am writing, I will begin developing an android app that facilitates this type of transaction from mobile devices for TRUSTplus!

Wink

Awesome.  Thanks for the info.

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August 07, 2014, 03:58:45 PM
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Pulled my lump sum into wallet to stake, long term coin this.


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