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paceta
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July 16, 2014, 02:30:37 PM |
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You should open a paypal dispute ASAP
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argovian (OP)
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July 16, 2014, 02:31:22 PM |
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You should open a paypal dispute ASAP
I am doing so now, but i wanted to get all my details together for it. And get something posted here as I saw he was trying to sell other things to users.
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July 16, 2014, 02:38:04 PM |
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Opened paypal dispute:
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argovian (OP)
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July 16, 2014, 02:42:28 PM |
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Just remembered I setup UPS Mychoice to track packages for my Antminer S3 purchase from Bitmain. Seller claims it was being shipped via UPS, system shows no packages set to arrive at my home.
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paceta
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July 16, 2014, 02:52:41 PM |
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I wish you good luck, but at least you did not paid via bitcoins etc , i am sure you will win the claim since he can not show any tracking number the only issue is IF he have allready used the money his paypal will be in the red but they will not refund you till he have money inside but maybe you can try buyer protection ?
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AcoinL.L.C
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July 16, 2014, 03:20:38 PM |
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I wish you good luck, but at least you did not paid via bitcoins etc , i am sure you will win the claim since he can not show any tracking number the only issue is IF he have allready used the money his paypal will be in the red but they will not refund you till he have money inside but maybe you can try buyer protection ?
No, in this case paypal would still reimburse him but make the scammer's balance go into the red (basically paypal takes the hit)
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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
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July 16, 2014, 04:38:33 PM |
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Next time, if you deal with Bitcoins, use escrow. Good luck, hope your PP dispute goes well.
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paceta
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July 16, 2014, 04:40:20 PM |
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No thats defenitly not true, it will only happen IF the buyer protection will work , if not and he have no cash on paypal the seller will get nada
I know it because i scammed twice like this
but the op still have 1 joker he used his credit card to pay , paypal so he can make a chargeback ?!
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 05:40:22 PM |
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I paid for 6 s1s from him with paypal and credit card, they are supposed to be here today. i'm assuming they will not arrive. I already opened a paypal dispute. if they actually do arrive I will update page. I paid with credit card so I should get my money back. not sure if this is the guy's real name, his paypal is "verified" so maybe that means that is actually his name Kenneth Bell strykergaming@aol.com
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 05:49:14 PM |
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863 640 8120 is his number?
everyone start calling him
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 05:54:33 PM |
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this user: UpcomingTruth
is either the same person as seniormember, or they are in cahoots.
don't trust UpcomingTruth either
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 05:57:37 PM |
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I have lots of people who will relentlessly harass this guy. opening the floods gates now.
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July 16, 2014, 05:59:39 PM |
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That's a known scammer, Marcus Walls, of Lenexa, KS. You will not receive your goods.
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July 16, 2014, 06:08:38 PM |
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this user: UpcomingTruth
is either the same person as seniormember, or they are in cahoots.
don't trust UpcomingTruth either
Most likely the same person. He wouldn't send first to trusted members and avoided escrow several times, used the same accuse as all the other scammers. That should have been a red flag.
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 06:17:04 PM |
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i'm calling his prob officer several times she won't answer the phone i'll get through one of these times
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argovian (OP)
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July 16, 2014, 06:43:39 PM |
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I paid for 6 s1s from him with paypal and credit card, they are supposed to be here today. i'm assuming they will not arrive. I already opened a paypal dispute. if they actually do arrive I will update page. I paid with credit card so I should get my money back. not sure if this is the guy's real name, his paypal is "verified" so maybe that means that is actually his name Kenneth Bell strykergaming@aol.comI called Paypal and escalated this with Paypal he has 10 days to reply and on day 11 it looks like they will refund those funds.
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paceta
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July 16, 2014, 06:47:51 PM |
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you can put any name in paypal even dr frankenstein and just verify it using a virtual credit card and a virtual bank account you can buy those for 10$..
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 07:08:41 PM |
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yeap I have to do the same. I don't know if I can escalate it yet.
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 08:05:41 PM |
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i'm calling his prob officer several times she won't answer the phone i'll get through one of these times
Don't annoy the probation officer, call once and leave a message. I just got a call back from her, sending her all the information I have about him.
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 08:13:34 PM |
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That's a known scammer, Marcus Walls, of Lenexa, KS. You will not receive your goods.
do you have any evidence that ties "Kenneth bell" to marcus walls?
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 08:25:15 PM |
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can an administrator provide his IP address he is using to post to see if we can tie that to "marcus walls"
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 09:18:29 PM |
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Scammer on localbitcoins, sellers stole $1210 from me 2.13.14 Scammers name: Kenneth Bell Mulberry FL, 33860 goes by BITLEGIT Skype live: bitlegit phone 863-640-4823 He’s recently updated his listing 2.14.2014, & took his ph off the ad. Support is non-existent from the site localbitcoins.com site and they have not pulled his ad. Their forum is un-operative. I’m beginning to realize the entire site is a sham.
12.14.14 3pm He’s seen the post and is claiming that he will refund my money tomorrow. I will up-date the post if it happens. I still think the localbitcoins site it shady.
2.15.14 the jerk ddn't refund or suply the btc, police report is next.
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 09:24:27 PM |
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Kenneth bell and marcus walls may be different people...
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July 16, 2014, 09:25:41 PM |
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if Kenneth bell is a different person than marcus walls then he needs the same treatment
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July 16, 2014, 09:35:22 PM |
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SeniorMember
If anyone is near zipcode 33860 and would like to come stop by and check it out I would be willing to set up something to met.
Otherwise, this thread had turned into a bunch of non sense. For escrow, I'm only using ebay since I'm dealing with paypal If you have cash in hand and want to come pick it up. Your more then welcomed too. zip code 33860 = mulberry fl
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 09:41:46 PM |
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# still works. hope Kenneth bell is his real name calling the police and filing a report
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 10:31:58 PM |
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Kenneth bell and marcus walls may be different people...
Next time do some research before calling someone's parole officer a bunch of times. She may take calls like this less seriously in the future now. maybe they are the same person? who knows. btw I called 3 times over several hours so "a bunch of times" was an exaggeration
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 10:33:25 PM |
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i'm calling a detective tomorrow morning in pulk co sheriff dept with all the information I have.
Kenneth bell mulberry, FL 863 640 8120
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 10:41:07 PM |
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hes comes back as working for "grannys trunk inc" in Lakeland fl. # is disconnected. no longer in business
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 10:51:53 PM |
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someone please help me out here searching if you're bored. I paid to get a search get a whole lot of info relatives: Kaylee Bell (Age: 21) Amy Johnson (Age: 42) email: kentheben14@aol.comkennethlbell91@aol.compast addresses: 4504 ewell rd Lakeland, fl 33811 2755 Gordon st mulberry, fl 33860 1318 heartland cir mulberry fl 33860 I have the names of their landlords. I bet they would appreciate me calling them
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 11:03:58 PM Last edit: July 16, 2014, 11:58:10 PM by spiceminer15 |
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his whole family must be scumbags, none of them even the old ones have kept a number for long enough for it to show up and work on these phone searches dad? (269) 623-3681 (269) 962-6970 (269) 330-1944 mobile (269) 721-3041 (269) 275-1371 mobile (269) 965-0897 (269) 664-3681 (616) 965-0897 (269) 317-4955 mobile jerrybell@provide.netdkdadx5@yahoo.comjerrybell@localnet.comjerry.bell@comcast.netjbell@snet.net11119E shore dr delton me 49046 or 8870 cory dr delton me 49046
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nottm28
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July 16, 2014, 11:05:28 PM |
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Just do a paypal dispute and wait - you will get your money back for a non-received item - why spend money on private detectives?
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 11:06:25 PM |
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its automated stuff on a web site, I paid $0.95 to get access
I already filed a dispute I want this guy is get fucked.
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nottm28
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July 16, 2014, 11:10:49 PM |
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its automated stuff on a web site, I paid $0.95 to get access
I already filed a dispute I want this guy is get fucked.
Put it down to experience - flag his name/id in scam accusations (as you have done). But be careful posting all kinds of phone numbers and email addresses - might mean you incriminate an innocent bystander - then you'll feel bad.
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July 16, 2014, 11:11:37 PM |
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I believe Kenneth Bell and Marcus Walls are two separate persons. Both of which happen to be scammers though.
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nottm28
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July 16, 2014, 11:12:38 PM |
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its automated stuff on a web site, I paid $0.95 to get access
I already filed a dispute I want this guy is get fucked.
Now that website has you credit card details - etc
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 11:13:21 PM |
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sending mass email to all addresses to all family members informing them of Kenneth bell being a scammer, maybe one of them will not be a scumbag. i'm ran into scammers before where even their GRANDPARENTS were shit
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nottm28
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July 16, 2014, 11:15:15 PM |
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I believe Kenneth Bell and Marcus Walls are two separate persons. Both of which happen to be scammers though.
Targetted by two prolific scammers in one day - I wouldn't ask this guy for his lottery numbers...
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 11:30:00 PM |
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sent out mass email to all emails I could find, all relatives young and old. fyi I was only scammed by Kenneth bell not by this marcus guy lol... I will get my money back from credit card company. maybe they will use their $ to pursue this scumbag Kenneth Bell Age: 23 (Born Jan, 1991) 4604 Ewell RD lakeland, fl 33811 or 1318 heartland cir mulberry fl 33860 is stealing and scamming from people on the internet, selling things to people and never sending, stealing or scamming money from people through various internet scams. there is extensive evidence of this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697118.0all your information is in that thread as well, a detective from polk ct. sherrif department is taking up the case. if you're a relative of kenneth bell please put pressure on him to return all stolen money immediately.
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blah01
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July 16, 2014, 11:50:00 PM |
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Hello all, I am in the exact same situation. I basically had the exact conversation with SENIORMEMBER that the o.p posted except mine was through p.m. I gave him two payments, one for 725.00 for 7 antminers and the other for 453.45 for 4 antminers. I am in the process of opening a dispute/claim with paypal and really hope they will give me my money back since we are all filing claims against this same person. I payed through paypal but used a bank account and not a credit card, I hope that isn't going to be an issue. If you need any information (full conversation, screenshots, etc.) just let me know, I will post it up. But the op conversation is basically the exact convo I had with him.
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 11:52:21 PM |
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the more people that call the polk ct. sheriffs department the better.
here is their number. (863) 298-6200 call tomorrow during business hours east coast time.
give them this same information. lets get this guy put in jail where he belongs
Kenneth Bell Age: 23 (Born Jan, 1991) 4604 Ewell RD lakeland, fl 33811 863 640 8120
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spiceminer15
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July 16, 2014, 11:53:36 PM |
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Hello all, I am in the exact same situation. I basically had the exact conversation with SENIORMEMBER that the o.p posted except mine was through p.m. I gave him two payments, one for 725.00 for 7 antminers and the other for 453.45 for 4 antminers. I am in the process of opening a dispute/claim with paypal and really hope they will give me my money back since we are all filing claims against this same person. I payed through paypal but used a bank account and not a credit card, I hope that isn't going to be an issue. If you need any information (full conversation, screenshots, etc.) just let me know, I will post it up. But the op conversation is basically the exact convo I had with him.
ps: call paypal customer service directly and they will immediately escalate to a claim, then you will only have to wait 11 days to get your money back.
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July 17, 2014, 12:07:27 AM |
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Hello all, I am in the exact same situation. I basically had the exact conversation with SENIORMEMBER that the o.p posted except mine was through p.m. I gave him two payments, one for 725.00 for 7 antminers and the other for 453.45 for 4 antminers. I am in the process of opening a dispute/claim with paypal and really hope they will give me my money back since we are all filing claims against this same person. I payed through paypal but used a bank account and not a credit card, I hope that isn't going to be an issue. If you need any information (full conversation, screenshots, etc.) just let me know, I will post it up. But the op conversation is basically the exact convo I had with him.
ps: call paypal customer service directly and they will immediately escalate to a claim, then you will only have to wait 11 days to get your money back. Thanks!
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acs267
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July 17, 2014, 12:10:46 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
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blah01
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July 17, 2014, 12:12:24 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
isnt that what paypal is?
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spiceminer15
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July 17, 2014, 12:14:17 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
I paid with USD/paypal/credit card. they will give me my money back, I bet everyone will get their money back. hopefully paypal will go after this clown. I can't believe he is doing this using his real name.
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blah01
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July 17, 2014, 12:39:46 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
I paid with USD/paypal/credit card. they will give me my money back, I bet everyone will get their money back. hopefully paypal will go after this clown. I can't believe he is doing this using his real name. I am guessing he needed money to pay bills or something so he needed quick cash. He wanted to use paypal over btc which I thought was odd.
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blah01
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July 17, 2014, 12:42:00 AM |
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spiceminer15
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July 17, 2014, 12:56:09 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
I paid with USD/paypal/credit card. they will give me my money back, I bet everyone will get their money back. hopefully paypal will go after this clown. I can't believe he is doing this using his real name. I am guessing he needed money to pay bills or something so he needed quick cash. He wanted to use paypal over btc which I thought was odd. well i'm not stopping until he is fucked or I get distracted by something else
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July 17, 2014, 01:01:15 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
I paid with USD/paypal/credit card. they will give me my money back, I bet everyone will get their money back. hopefully paypal will go after this clown. I can't believe he is doing this using his real name. I am guessing he needed money to pay bills or something so he needed quick cash. He wanted to use paypal over btc which I thought was odd. well i'm not stopping until he is fucked or I get distracted by something else get emm!!!
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acs267
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July 17, 2014, 01:12:22 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
isnt that what paypal is? Comparing PayPal to escrow? Has to be joking. Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
I paid with USD/paypal/credit card. they will give me my money back, I bet everyone will get their money back. hopefully paypal will go after this clown. I can't believe he is doing this using his real name. I am guessing he needed money to pay bills or something so he needed quick cash. He wanted to use paypal over btc which I thought was odd. Hopefully. They usually side with buyers, so you should be okay.
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July 17, 2014, 01:37:22 AM |
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someone please help me out here searching if you're bored. I paid to get a search get a whole lot of info relatives: Kaylee Bell (Age: 21) Amy Johnson (Age: 42) email: kentheben14@aol.comkennethlbell91@aol.compast addresses: 4504 ewell rd Lakeland, fl 33811 2755 Gordon st mulberry, fl 33860 1318 heartland cir mulberry fl 33860 I have the names of their landlords. I bet they would appreciate me calling them I live an 1 hour or so away from this guy
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July 17, 2014, 01:43:00 AM |
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careful with paypal transaction..
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blah01
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July 17, 2014, 02:17:28 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
isnt that what paypal is? Comparing PayPal to escrow? Has to be joking. meaning, as a buyer, we are pretty well protected from scams while using Paypal. And that is really what an escrow service is out to prevent. So yes, I considered paying through paypal equal to using an escrow service. It's is sort of hard to use ognasty or someone to escrow money that is in a bank account, they usually escrow btc am I wrong?
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blah01
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July 17, 2014, 03:34:09 AM |
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Why didn't neither of you use escrow?
Why would anyone send over $1000 to someone who has no reputation here? This is all pretty ridiculous. To respond I also have no rep. Built up. I have done a couple deals, using escrow, that were fine there just hasn't been feedback left and I am completely trustworthy. I would have never not used an escrow with pretty much any amount of money, and was mainly only comfortable with it because I was sending through PayPal with their buyer protection. As far as I know, there is no way to use an escrow service if you are paying through PayPal is there?
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blah01
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July 17, 2014, 03:39:57 AM |
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hes comes back as working for "grannys trunk inc" in Lakeland fl. # is disconnected. no longer in business
He mentioned working at a machine shop, no idea if it's true or not. He didn't come out and say he worked at a machine shop, but he mentioned having to load the machine to run material and what they were making. Probly lies but just something to go off of.
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July 17, 2014, 09:06:57 AM |
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@ OP any luck so far
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July 17, 2014, 09:22:10 AM |
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just a thought but I'm guessing ^^^ is seniormember
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July 17, 2014, 11:32:20 AM |
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just a thought but I'm guessing ^^^ is seniormember
me ?
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July 17, 2014, 11:42:38 AM |
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just a thought but I'm guessing ^^^ is seniormember
me ? of course lol for many reasons. your account is brand new from yesterday 7/16 you are going into the same types of threads as him btc loaning threads (trying to loan(scam) with a brand new account) you are on the same times as him early early mornings and why would a brand new user, happen into this thread (there are thousands) and ask the op if he has any updates, why would someone brand new give a shit at all, much less this specific thread. Your responses are also similar to the people calling you a scammer in the btc loan threads as I have seen in other threads with accusations. No need for you to respond, sorry all your eggs were in the football basket and they didn't hatch.
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July 17, 2014, 11:54:55 AM |
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report a scam to paypal
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July 17, 2014, 11:57:47 AM |
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just a thought but I'm guessing ^^^ is seniormember
me ? of course lol for many reasons. your account is brand new from yesterday 7/16 you are going into the same types of threads as him btc loaning threads (trying to loan(scam) with a brand new account) you are on the same times as him early early mornings and why would a brand new user, happen into this thread (there are thousands) and ask the op if he has any updates, why would someone brand new give a shit at all, much less this specific thread. Your responses are also similar to the people calling you a scammer in the btc loan threads as I have seen in other threads with accusations. No need for you to respond, sorry all your eggs were in the football basket and they didn't hatch. I have no clue what you smoke not even know what OP bought , secondly i just ask because i am curious , third i can do loans to who I WHANT four, where i can scam if I GIVE A LOAN ? so please just shut up and go sleep a bit before you are accusing people k ?
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July 17, 2014, 12:52:06 PM |
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just a thought but I'm guessing ^^^ is seniormember
me ? of course lol for many reasons. your account is brand new from yesterday 7/16 you are going into the same types of threads as him btc loaning threads (trying to loan(scam) with a brand new account) you are on the same times as him early early mornings and why would a brand new user, happen into this thread (there are thousands) and ask the op if he has any updates, why would someone brand new give a shit at all, much less this specific thread. Your responses are also similar to the people calling you a scammer in the btc loan threads as I have seen in other threads with accusations. No need for you to respond, sorry all your eggs were in the football basket and they didn't hatch. I have no clue what you smoke not even know what OP bought , secondly i just ask because i am curious , third i can do loans to who I WHANT four, where i can scam if I GIVE A LOAN ? so please just shut up and go sleep a bit before you are accusing people k ? you don't know what he bought yet its all over the thread. Also, if you didn't take the time to read it why exactly would you be curious. Don't be upset because you already have a few posts on that account and don't want to redo lol. like I said, just a thought.... time will tell
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July 17, 2014, 12:56:32 PM |
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Sorry dude what i mean is i have no CLUE whats an 6 Antminer S1's - *edit* But let's stay on topic now
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July 17, 2014, 04:16:57 PM |
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calling the sheriffs office right now to speak with detective
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July 17, 2014, 05:02:07 PM |
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just got off the phone with them, gave them all the info I had. I encourage everyone to call them and report it.
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zolace
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July 18, 2014, 12:26:28 AM |
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I feel bad, cause I put a negative feedback on him a few weeks ago for attempting a scam, he pm me to remove it. Im not sure if my feedback would had suffice but damn I should had been watching him. I feel like is my fault you got scammed
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spiceminer15
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July 18, 2014, 01:35:56 AM Last edit: July 18, 2014, 10:45:00 PM by spiceminer15 |
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Yea it would've stopped me but dont blame yourself its purely his fault
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blah01
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July 18, 2014, 10:20:14 PM |
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Lol it would have stopped me too. It certainly isn't something to blame yourself for. Just goes to show how important the rating system is. I should start leaving more feedback too.
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spiceminer15
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July 24, 2014, 09:56:36 PM Last edit: July 24, 2014, 10:42:04 PM by spiceminer15 |
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nevermind
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argovian (OP)
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July 28, 2014, 12:34:37 AM |
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Just wanted to post a follow up, SeniorMember never replied to the Paypal dispute. As such paypal just refunded my purchase.
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spiceminer15
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July 28, 2014, 02:45:48 AM |
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Just wanted to post a follow up, SeniorMember never replied to the Paypal dispute. As such paypal just refunded my purchase.
mine as well
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