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August 16, 2015, 11:39:09 AM
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Changing the block reward make sense because mining rewards are the incentive to mine. Viacoin changed to merged mining, now it doesnt need to compete for miners. There is plenty precedent for this, including DOGE. I would be quite happy to submit a patch if it will get some serious attention.
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August 16, 2015, 12:04:37 PM
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hola!!  Grin Grin as irc and reddit seems to not have this debate & this supply change is important considersation i finally registered for here.....im a small stack holder but +1 for a change! do not care though to what is it changed, developer know what works. viacoin needs volume back.....  Huh Cry Undecided
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August 17, 2015, 09:48:53 AM
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Changing the supply wont fix the price and that is a stupid reason to make a change.  If you want the price to go up, people need to use the network.  Marketing for clearinghouse may be a better approach. 

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August 17, 2015, 12:25:48 PM
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Changing the supply wont fix the price and that is a stupid reason to make a change.  If you want the price to go up, people need to use the network.  Marketing for clearinghouse may be a better approach. 

not getting it:

do ppl still believe in organic growth farytale in 2015?!? its so all about market action & vol, marketing and development features is just story-board.....except: huge company adapts altcoin then fomo, but chance is like 0.1%....

supply change has good chance of bringing vol + making viacoin more interesting for whales play. no whales=no movement.

I would be quite happy to submit a patch if it will get some serious attention.

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August 17, 2015, 09:01:42 PM
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Changing the supply wont fix the price and that is a stupid reason to make a change.  If you want the price to go up, people need to use the network.  Marketing for clearinghouse may be a better approach.  

not getting it:

do ppl still believe in organic growth farytale in 2015?!? its so all about market action & vol, marketing and development features is just story-board.....except: huge company adapts altcoin then fomo, but chance is like 0.1%....

supply change has good chance of bringing vol + making viacoin more interesting for whales play. no whales=no movement.

I would be quite happy to submit a patch if it will get some serious attention.

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Is your head broken?  Maybe the community is dead because the only people left other than drak just want to exit pump it.  Changing the long term supply is nothing but short term hype material, it will just crash and burn again shortly after.  

Whales didn't leave because they thought the supply was too high, they left because no one is using the network and the hype died.  

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August 17, 2015, 10:32:36 PM
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I have submitted a pull request.
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August 17, 2015, 11:10:22 PM
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Changing the supply wont fix the price and that is a stupid reason to make a change.  If you want the price to go up, people need to use the network.  Marketing for clearinghouse may be a better approach.  

not getting it:

do ppl still believe in organic growth farytale in 2015?!? its so all about market action & vol, marketing and development features is just story-board.....except: huge company adapts altcoin then fomo, but chance is like 0.1%....

supply change has good chance of bringing vol + making viacoin more interesting for whales play. no whales=no movement.

I would be quite happy to submit a patch if it will get some serious attention.

+1000

Is your head broken?  Maybe the community is dead because the only people left other than drak just want to exit pump it.  Changing the long term supply is nothing but short term hype material, it will just crash and burn again shortly after.  

Whales didn't leave because they thought the supply was too high, they left because no one is using the network and the hype died.  

That's the most sensible comment that I read in this thread for a while. The "because no one is using the network and the hype died" part summarizes the main issue with Viacoin and generally with crypto.


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August 18, 2015, 03:26:15 AM
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Changing the supply wont fix the price and that is a stupid reason to make a change.  If you want the price to go up, people need to use the network.  Marketing for clearinghouse may be a better approach.  

not getting it:

do ppl still believe in organic growth farytale in 2015?!? its so all about market action & vol, marketing and development features is just story-board.....except: huge company adapts altcoin then fomo, but chance is like 0.1%....

supply change has good chance of bringing vol + making viacoin more interesting for whales play. no whales=no movement.

I would be quite happy to submit a patch if it will get some serious attention.

+1000

Is your head broken?  Maybe the community is dead because the only people left other than drak just want to exit pump it.  Changing the long term supply is nothing but short term hype material, it will just crash and burn again shortly after.  

Whales didn't leave because they thought the supply was too high, they left because no one is using the network and the hype died.  

That's the most sensible comment that I read in this thread for a while. The "because no one is using the network and the hype died" part summarizes the main issue with Viacoin and generally with crypto.




To all altcoins that hope to have a future:- cooperate or die. Unique features don't cut it anymore , nice graphics either  Cheesy

Find two or more good devs , let them build a bridge between their coins , let the community market the idea and voila, adoption!! Adoption == volume == utility == cloud 9.

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August 18, 2015, 03:36:52 AM
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Changing the supply wont fix the price and that is a stupid reason to make a change.  If you want the price to go up, people need to use the network.  Marketing for clearinghouse may be a better approach.  

not getting it:

do ppl still believe in organic growth farytale in 2015?!? its so all about market action & vol, marketing and development features is just story-board.....except: huge company adapts altcoin then fomo, but chance is like 0.1%....

supply change has good chance of bringing vol + making viacoin more interesting for whales play. no whales=no movement.

I would be quite happy to submit a patch if it will get some serious attention.

+1000


Is your head broken?  Maybe the community is dead because the only people left other than drak just want to exit pump it.  Changing the long term supply is nothing but short term hype material, it will just crash and burn again shortly after.  

Whales didn't leave because they thought the supply was too high, they left because no one is using the network and the hype died.  

That's the most sensible comment that I read in this thread for a while. The "because no one is using the network and the hype died" part summarizes the main issue with Viacoin and generally with crypto.




To all altcoins that hope to have a future:- cooperate or die. Unique features don't cut it anymore , nice graphics either  Cheesy

Find two or more good devs , let them build a bridge between their coins , let the community market the idea and voila, adoption!! Adoption == volume == utility == cloud 9.


Yes, that sounds absolutely right and a good plan. When should we start that and how? :-))))

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August 18, 2015, 05:01:14 AM
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I posted this in the XCH thread but it is relevant here too:

http://bravenewcoin.com/news/spells-of-genesis-raises-over-240-bitcoin-in-2-hours/
http://www.spellsofgenesis.com/users/token_system
http://bitcrystals.github.io/

“By putting digital game assets directly on the Bitcoin blockchain, Spells of Genesis has initiated a new megatrend. Everyone will be doing this soon.” 
- Eric Voorhees CEO ShapeShift.io



If we get projects like this to use clearinghouse then Viacoin will have a purpose.  We won't need to compete for hype material with the newest shitcoins for whales to be interested.


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August 18, 2015, 07:37:53 AM
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Changing the supply wont fix the price and that is a stupid reason to make a change.  If you want the price to go up, people need to use the network.  Marketing for clearinghouse may be a better approach.  

not getting it:

do ppl still believe in organic growth farytale in 2015?!? its so all about market action & vol, marketing and development features is just story-board.....except: huge company adapts altcoin then fomo, but chance is like 0.1%....

supply change has good chance of bringing vol + making viacoin more interesting for whales play. no whales=no movement.

I would be quite happy to submit a patch if it will get some serious attention.

+1000


Is your head broken?  Maybe the community is dead because the only people left other than drak just want to exit pump it.  Changing the long term supply is nothing but short term hype material, it will just crash and burn again shortly after.  

Whales didn't leave because they thought the supply was too high, they left because no one is using the network and the hype died.  

That's the most sensible comment that I read in this thread for a while. The "because no one is using the network and the hype died" part summarizes the main issue with Viacoin and generally with crypto.




To all altcoins that hope to have a future:- cooperate or die. Unique features don't cut it anymore , nice graphics either  Cheesy

Find two or more good devs , let them build a bridge between their coins , let the community market the idea and voila, adoption!! Adoption == volume == utility == cloud 9.


Yes, that sounds absolutely right and a good plan. When should we start that and how? :-))))



Well, i have already started on my side in the hopes of creating a proof of concept, i have opened up the filters on my base client to recognize other blockchains, and am now studying to figure a way that blockchains can communicate. I'm not a very talented dev, but with time i'll get there. Also looking into adding colored coins into the base client.

One of the biggest steps we are taking form traditional mining/minting is the removal of useless competitive mining. The vast majority of coins are being mined at a loss, and as though that's not enough, there is not enough buy support to justified these "market caps". So we are introducing a bidding based system that actually backs the currency's value rather that pouring money into Amazon and AMD's coffers.

Just to put some perspective....imagine if all the billions spent on graphics cards ASICs and amazon instances had been invested directly into backing a coin... we estimated a BTC would have had a tentative value upwards of $5000.

Would be great if Viacoin and BCR worked together to realize some amazing advances.

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August 18, 2015, 07:38:47 AM
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I posted this in the XCH thread but it is relevant here too:

http://bravenewcoin.com/news/spells-of-genesis-raises-over-240-bitcoin-in-2-hours/
http://www.spellsofgenesis.com/users/token_system
http://bitcrystals.github.io/

“By putting digital game assets directly on the Bitcoin blockchain, Spells of Genesis has initiated a new megatrend. Everyone will be doing this soon.” 
- Eric Voorhees CEO ShapeShift.io



If we get projects like this to use clearinghouse then Viacoin will have a purpose.  We won't need to compete for hype material with the newest shitcoins for whales to be interested.



Very smart!!!

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August 18, 2015, 07:43:31 AM
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I installed the Android wallet to send a few VIA to and it can't pick up any peers. I notice a "Trusted Peer" setting. What can I fill in so that I can get the wallet working? It's version 4.12 downloaded from Google Play.

Also when I open it from the My Apps section of Google Play it says a new version is available. When I click on "Play" it takes me to the version I already have. When I click "Download" it takes me to a 404 page under user Schildbach.


I am afraid the developer of that mobile wallet vanished and never upgraded it for the merged mining hard fork.

If the mobile wallet is known not to be working, could the links to it be removed from viacoin.org etc...


Drak will you develop new android wallet for merge mining?

https://github.com/esotericizm/viacoin-wallet

That's the source. Thankfully it's available.

I'm too poor to buy a lot of VIA right now, but I'd try to get it working for a reasonable bounty in VIA.

I think it would add some luster back to the VIA brand. I've spent a lot of time checking out VIA and it looks to be the real deal. But IMHO it needs a tune up, no offense to the devs. This really should be a top 20-30 coin. There isn't any reason why it shouldn't be except for some of these frayed ends.


Marcus, have you got the mobile wallet working?



I removed the links. The developer has stopped responding to PMs. I haven't gone chasing him in public although he is still active on the BCT forums. I suspect he's just embarrassed to reply.
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August 18, 2015, 07:47:20 AM
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Well, i have already started on my side in the hopes of creating a proof of concept, i have opened up the filters on my base client to recognize other blockchains, and am now studying to figure a way that blockchains can communicate. I'm not a very talented dev, but with time i'll get there. Also looking into adding colored coins into the base client.

One of the biggest steps we are taking form traditional mining/minting is the removal of useless competitive mining. The vast majority of coins are being mined at a loss, and as though that's not enough, there is not enough buy support to justified these "market caps". So we are introducing a bidding based system that actually backs the currency's value rather that pouring money into Amazon and AMD's coffers.

Just to put some perspective....imagine if all the billions spent on graphics cards ASICs and amazon instances had been invested directly into backing a coin... we estimated a BTC would have had a tentative value upwards of $5000.

Being merged mined I dont think we have a problem with competitive mining anymore and we have pretty decent security as a result, way more than most alts.

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August 18, 2015, 07:48:27 AM
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I have submitted a pull request.

I will review the technical merits of your pull request, but I wont make a decision on merging it. If people want it, they should comment with ACK in the pull request (or NACK) accompanied with a reason. It's at https://github.com/viacoin/viacoin/pull/35
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August 20, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
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I removed the links. The developer has stopped responding to PMs. I haven't gone chasing him in public although he is still active on the BCT forums. I suspect he's just embarrassed to reply.


ok, mobile wallet link on the first page of this thread, will you be removing that also?

I know, this isn't the place but on the same subject (broken links) counterwallet's link to clearinghouse! and there's not been a reply to the question of a working block explorer for clearinghouse. I did  post something over there re: the resource link for http://xch.blockscan.com   error page not found ! Is there no block explorer ?



I think this one works https://chainz.cryptoid.info/via/.
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August 20, 2015, 10:40:42 AM
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Every altcoin needs marketing and adoption to survive... not tech gimmicks. Reducing VIA's supply is probably a good idea, but it is not really what the coin needs at the moment (or in the future).

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August 21, 2015, 03:46:18 PM
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Every altcoin needs marketing and adoption to survive... not tech gimmicks. Reducing VIA's supply is probably a good idea, but it is not really what the coin needs at the moment (or in the future).

Thats right, the coin will not survive only from reducing the supply. This coin also need marketing and adoption from crypto user. More features or development, more known and better survival for this coin..

reducing the supply only work on short time...am i wrong?

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August 21, 2015, 07:17:34 PM
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Usually changing supply params leads to dead coins

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It needs people that give a crap enough to take it to the next level, adding breakthrough features to the coin or clearinghouse.
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