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Daniel91
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July 21, 2014, 10:57:31 AM |
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It's clear that Putin sponsoring war criminals in Eastern Ukraine with finance and weapons, and as results 298 innocent people was killed in plane crash.
I don't believe that Putin is directly responsible for this act but he made this possible and as sponsor of this group he is also responsible for this act of terrorism.
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247crypto
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July 21, 2014, 11:08:46 AM |
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It's clear that Putin sponsoring war criminals in Eastern Ukraine with finance and weapons, and as results 298 innocent people was killed in plane crash.
I don't believe that Putin is directly responsible for this act but he made this possible and as sponsor of this group he is also responsible for this act of terrorism.
1. Pls, give some examples of war criminals cases from Lugansk/Donetsk Republics. 2. Who control Kremenchuk Area, where Jet lost communications? 3. Pls. give proofs about ground-air missile shrapnel damages on Jet surface. |
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E-valuta
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July 21, 2014, 12:01:21 PM |
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It's clear that Putin sponsoring war criminals in Eastern Ukraine with finance and weapons, and as results 298 innocent people was killed in plane crash.
I don't believe that Putin is directly responsible for this act but he made this possible and as sponsor of this group he is also responsible for this act of terrorism.
Ummno. Right now it looks like its most likely a SAM from the Ukraine Army, IF there was a SAM missilie at all that shot it Down. Could be an airplane from NATOs Black Sea fleat, they apparently had a wargame Down there same time.. |
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E-valuta
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July 21, 2014, 12:04:08 PM |
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It's clear that Putin sponsoring war criminals in Eastern Ukraine with finance and weapons, and as results 298 innocent people was killed in plane crash.
I don't believe that Putin is directly responsible for this act but he made this possible and as sponsor of this group he is also responsible for this act of terrorism.
1. Pls, give some examples of war criminals cases from Lugansk/Donetsk Republics. 2. Who control Kremenchuk Area, where Jet lost communications? 3. Pls. give proofs about ground-air missile shrapnel damages on Jet surface. The newspapers are overflooded With war-propaganda, blaming PUTIN for the massacre of KIDS.. and then in the next article declaring Putins "highest ever rating" is because of war and terror in Ukraine, as if Russian People also were evil demons from hell lusting for the blood of innocent kids.. sickening how they're pushing the sheeple into a hate-Russia mode. |
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Daniel91
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July 21, 2014, 12:58:38 PM |
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Malaysia Airlines Flight 17: Eight unanswered questions http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/21/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-unanswered-questions/index.html?hpt=wo_c12. Why would anyone target a passenger plane? If indeed the rebels are behind the attack, they may have mistaken the plane for a Ukrainian military craft. In the past few months, the rebels have used surface-to-air missiles to bring down more than a dozen planes, including two transport aircraft, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev said. Shortly after the crash, Igor Strelkov, the self-proclaimed defense minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, claimed on social media that the rebels had shot down a military transport plane. Those posts were later deleted once it turned out the plane was a civilian aircraft. "It has the earmarks of a mistaken identification of an aircraft that they may have believed was Ukrainian," Arizona Sen. John McCain told MSNBC. United States Assessment of the Downing of Flight MH17 and its Aftermath http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/statements/asmt-07192014.htmlSo, this is official info and reports until now, no speculation. Please don't take this personal, l don't hate Russians or Russia, just sharing official info I have until now(If this info is wrong I'm also wrong, of course). If official investigation prove that Russian in Ukraine or Putin are not guilty, despite this official info and statement from USA gov. I will gladly apologize here. Until than, let's return to the official facts and info we have until now and wait for results from official investigation, ok?. |
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247crypto
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July 21, 2014, 01:40:53 PM |
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Shortly after the crash, Igor Strelkov, the self-proclaimed defense minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, claimed on social media that the rebels had shot down a military transport plane. Those posts were later deleted once it turned out the plane was a civilian aircraft.
Where? Mr.Girkin have no facebook/VK/LJ. |
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July 21, 2014, 01:43:32 PM |
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Keep up the good work of spreading the truth and a big thanks for doing it! The newspapers are overflooded With war-propaganda, blaming PUTIN for the massacre of KIDS.. and then in the next article declaring Putins "highest ever rating" is because of war and terror in Ukraine, as if Russian People also were evil demons from hell lusting for the blood of innocent kids.. sickening how they're pushing the sheeple into a hate-Russia mode.
Sure, Be a KGB man isn't a bloody work and Russian aren't avoided nationalist... |
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247crypto
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July 21, 2014, 01:54:04 PM |
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Sure, Be a KGB man isn't a bloody work and Russian aren't avoided nationalist...
Russian Federation is a multi ethnic country. I live in EU. |
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hologram
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July 21, 2014, 01:56:06 PM |
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Russian Federation is a multi ethnic country.
I live in EU.
Russian nationalism is not about ethnicity but the nostalgia of the 19 century empire. Where do you live ? What happen to you to have all this hate ? I know pretty much people like you in France, this is sad, world is beautiful. |
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247crypto
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July 21, 2014, 02:00:15 PM |
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What happen to you to have all this hate ?
Hate to who? |
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hologram
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July 21, 2014, 02:03:06 PM |
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Hate to who?
For the west people, history and culture. Here in my country haters are more muslim extremist cause we have a lot of Arab and they have the same thinking than you. |
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E-valuta
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July 21, 2014, 02:51:36 PM |
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Keep up the good work of spreading the truth and a big thanks for doing it! The newspapers are overflooded With war-propaganda, blaming PUTIN for the massacre of KIDS.. and then in the next article declaring Putins "highest ever rating" is because of war and terror in Ukraine, as if Russian People also were evil demons from hell lusting for the blood of innocent kids.. sickening how they're pushing the sheeple into a hate-Russia mode.
Sure, Be a KGB man isn't a bloody work and Russian aren't avoided nationalist...  |
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hologram
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July 21, 2014, 03:02:45 PM |
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Putin worked for KGB, so stop think he his an humanist. He helped spreading one of the worst ideology...
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bryant.coleman
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July 21, 2014, 05:05:51 PM |
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Both Russia and the US have intelligence satellite data from the area where the Boeing 777 crashed. Russia has partially released the data which they possess and claimed that the aircraft was downed by an Ukrainian Su-25. Why the US is not releasing their data?
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Balthazar
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July 21, 2014, 05:37:42 PM
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Because they don't need it. Spreading the bullshit with free help from "useful fools"* is much more effective way. * "Useful fools" is a term here, it was originally introduced by V. Lenin to describe own supporters. Putin worked for KGB, so stop think he his an humanist. He helped spreading one of the worst ideology...
It's getting ridiculous. Well, maybe eventually you will notice that liberal dictocracy is far worse than anything. |
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hologram
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July 21, 2014, 05:53:36 PM |
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It's getting ridiculous. Well, maybe eventually you will notice that liberal dictocracy is far worse than anything.
What do you call liberal ? Anyway even if i'm not a progressive i prefer live in some progressive western country rather than in the failed rest of the world. Better condition of live and more liberty. And without the west way of thinking about freedom this website would not exist and the world would be in the same shit than few century ago.  |
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E-valuta
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July 21, 2014, 08:17:20 PM |
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Putin worked for KGB, so stop think he his an humanist. He helped spreading one of the worst ideology...
I think you got something wrong there, friend. He worked for KGB and helped de-construct "one of the worst ideology", not "spread". Spread? How, please do try to explain, did you come to that conclusion?  |
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247crypto
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July 21, 2014, 09:31:06 PM |
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Hate to who?
For the west people, history and culture. Here in my country haters are more muslim extremist cause we have a lot of Arab and they have the same thinking than you. Explain pls better, where i show this hate. Specially for history and culture. That are arguments absolutely not touched by me on this forum. I'm a expert in salafism and that is against islam. What thinking i have, You have no idea about. |
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