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July 21, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
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This thread is for independent, unmoderated discussion of Bit-Investors.com. Please share your own experience and collect information in this thread.

Latest Status
Bit-Investors.com is no longer paying out. It appears that the operator have already run:

(Payouts suspended until "becoming a registered HYIP" -- lol no such thing)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=682143.msg7948550#msg7948550

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My 0.2 BTC transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c543697b8b8a9d3434c31cabcdf2ac5d2084564546dd88a9d42ec037292fa1ec

Not repaid, not added to queue

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July 21, 2014, 01:49:51 PM
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Not paying

The operator, silvercane has attempted to justify it because he 'lost 6 BTC' on coinlenders/inputs, despite his account being registered more than half a year after CL or Inputs operated. silvercane refuses to provide any proof that he lost 6 BTC, and as such his claim can be considered entirely bogus.

I proposed that I will settle this if he donates 0.2 BTC to FSF or Tails. Despite initially agreeing, he refuses to donate the 0.2 BTC to the Free Software Foundation, a non-profit charity promoting FOSS software, or the Tails project. A couple of hours ago, silvercane said:

IMHO you have three non-scam options:

1) Refuse to do business, return the 0.2 BTC
2) Do business like normal

3) Donate the 0.2 BTC to tails, as tradefortress agrees to this.


Just keeping his property for yourself is theft. Even if he deserves it.

I'll donate it soon, once I have access to a PC

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Latest email from silvercane: "Go ahead and make your posts, It isn't that hard to explain to anyone who doubts me"

> Did not add 0.2 BTC *before* he knew I was TF

> Frivolous assertion that he "lost 6 BTC" in CL/Inputs

> Not making ANY payments now, to anyone
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July 21, 2014, 02:21:30 PM
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Im a current board investor in the new transition. No problem with the admin at all. Seems OP needs to man up and pay his debts instead of wasting his time sending PM's to everyone who invested in silvercane's site which is still paying.
Recommend you edit your thread with proper facts as it's only a few days since the site will be up and running again.
Also a good idea would be to fix your trust rating if you think anyone will believe you. Looks pretty ridiculous if you ask me
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July 21, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
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What a child
I just got a PM saying that bit investors is no longer paying from this scammer who has ripped off over 4,000 coins in CL and inputs.

Go and repay the people you owe instead of investing in ponzis you child.

Disgusted that you even make threads and send PM's with the trust and the debt you have!
Totally related to bit-investors not paying out Roll Eyes

(And no, I didn't invest here. I gambled Smiley)
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July 21, 2014, 02:23:12 PM
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Im a current board investor in the new transition. No problem with the admin at all.

Obvious attempt at trying to protect their 'investment', hoping some suckers buy in so the operator can afford to pay them.

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Also a good idea would be to fix your trust rating if you think anyone will believe you. Looks pretty ridiculous if you ask me

Completely irrelevant. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
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July 21, 2014, 02:27:59 PM
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The site is getting a company registration they're legally registered they need to wait a few days

Do you seriously believe that? Roll Eyes Their 'company registration' and freeze on payments colliding with me threatening to make this thread is no coincidence.

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They're getting a investor board to back the site up which can also take a few days

There is no such thing as an 'investor board'. Perhaps they mean 'board of directors', however if they don't know basic terminology then it remains questionable their competence.

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They're on a temp hold for a few days with no relation to the payments not being sent.

Operator already refused to honor my payment, or even donate it to charity. He's choosing to keep it for himself.

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I don't think anyone would believe you anyway

You don't need to believe anything. Check the transaction posted Smiley

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IMHO you have three non-scam options:

1) Refuse to do business, return the 0.2 BTC
2) Do business like normal

3) Donate the 0.2 BTC to tails, as tradefortress agrees to this.


Just keeping his property for yourself is theft. Even if he deserves it.
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July 21, 2014, 02:29:32 PM
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IF ANYONE WAS SCAMMED BY BIT-INVESTORS POST HERE...

SCAMMED BY BIT-INVESTORS FOR 0.2 BTC

https://blockchain.info/tx/c543697b8b8a9d3434c31cabcdf2ac5d2084564546dd88a9d42ec037292fa1ec

By the way, TheGambler is yet another person who has an active 'investment' in Bit-Investors.com and is defending it to try and get suckers to pay for him. This thread will be hilarious in a week as he starts posting scam accusations Cheesy
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July 21, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
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No wonder your sites got hacked, you probably had all the keys uploaded on your site waiting for someone to take you are that stupid!
You stole from him, he took what is his and you still owe him. That's not scamming that is taking back property that is rightfully his.

There is no evidence that he even used Inputs or Coinlenders. He registered here 8 months after they closed. Still waiting for silvercane to email me their account info Cheesy

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By the way, TheGambler is yet another person who has an active 'investment' in Bit-Investors.com and is defending it to try and get suckers to pay for him. This thread will be hilarious in a week as he starts posting scam accusations Cheesy
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July 21, 2014, 02:39:46 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors. Most of these scams work from anonymous offshore bases which make them hard to track down.
 

Mechanics
Operators generally set up a website offering an "investment program" which promises very high returns, such as 1% per day (3778% APY when returns are compounded every day), disclosing little or no detail about the underlying management, location, or other aspects of how money is to be invested. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has said that "these fraudulent schemes involve the purported issuance, trading, or use of so-called 'prime' bank, 'prime' European bank or 'prime' world bank financial instruments, or other 'high yield investment programs.' (HYIP's) The fraud artists … seek to mislead investors by suggesting that well regarded and financially sound institutions participate in these bogus programs." In 2010, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) warned that "[t]he con artists behind HYIPs are experts at using social media — including YouTube, Twitter and Facebook — to lure investors and create the illusion of social consensus that these investments are legitimate."
Though Ponzi schemes have existed since at least the early 1900s, the rise of digital payment systems has made it much easier for operators of such websites to accept payments from people worldwide.[3] Electronic money systems are generally accepted by HYIP operators because they are more accessible to operators than traditional merchant accounts. Some HYIP operators opened their own digital currency companies that eventually folded; these companies include Standard Reserve, OSGold, INTGold, EvoCash, and V-Money. StormPay started in the same way in 2002, but it remained in business even after the HYIP that it was created to serve was shut down by the State of Tennessee.
Some HYIPs have incorporated in countries with lax fraud laws to secure immunity from investor laws in other countries. The operators have been known to host their website with a web host that offers "anonymous hosting". They will use this website to accept transactions from participants in the scheme.

Some investors try to make money by attempting to invest in HYIPs at an early enough stage to create a return, and then by cashing out before the scheme collapses to profit at the expense of the later entrants. This is in itself a gamble as poor timing may result in a total loss of all money invested. To reduce this risk some of these investors use "tracker sites" listing the schemes and their current state. One expert states that there is not enough evidence to corroborate that tracker sites can actually help investors make more money.

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July 21, 2014, 02:55:40 PM
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Ok we admit it all. bit-investors.com was hacked a while ago and the hacker stole all the coins in our medium-temperature wallet.

We're all very upset about this which is why we never told anyone until now. We can't refund you your 0.2 BTC because it was sent to us after the hack happened. It is considered common procedure to "keep" all deposits made after a bitcoin site is hacked like with inputs/cl.

You have to remember that the real victim here is silvercane because not only was he robbed of the BTC he could've made from shutting down the HYIP but also the cost of the domain and time wasted clicking on ads to get free hosting and coding the site using nulled scripts.

HYIP have no warranties of any kind for coins stored there.

Do not bother asking us for your money, we totally didn't keep it all and are totally telling the truth, just take everything I say to be complete truth there is no need for us to give any kind of proof we are telling the truth. We'll probably file a police report or some shit in a few years.
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July 21, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
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Ok we admit it all. bit-investors.com was hacked a while ago and the hacker stole all the coins in our medium-temperature wallet.

We're all very upset about this which is why we never told anyone until now. We can't refund you your 0.2 BTC because it was sent to us after the hack happened. It is considered common procedure to "keep" all deposits made after a bitcoin site is hacked like with inputs/cl.

You have to remember that the real victim here is silvercane because not only was he robbed of the BTC he could've made from shutting down the HYIP but also the cost of the domain and time wasted clicking on ads to get free hosting and coding the site using nulled scripts.

HYIP have no warranties of any kind for coins stored there.

Do not bother asking us for your money, we totally didn't keep it all and are totally telling the truth, just take everything I say to be complete truth there is no need for us to give any kind of proof we are telling the truth. We'll probably file a police report or some shit in a few years.

BEST BEST BEST!!!

Bigger fail then this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sxfp_Cycvg

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July 21, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
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This thread is both hilarious and pathetic on free hug's part. He's trying soooooo hard. It's not working lol, nobody cares about your shitty scam accusations. Until somebody provides genuine proof (besides the 0.2btc case, this has already been discuss here where you threatened to make this fail thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702654.0), this thread is useless.
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July 21, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
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This thread is both hilarious and pathetic on free hug's part. He's trying soooooo hard. It's not working lol, nobody cares about your shitty scam accusations. Until somebody provides genuine proof (besides the 0.2btc case, this has already been discuss here where you threatened to make this fail thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702654.0), this thread is useless.

When I get scammed, I obviously threaten to make a thread Roll Eyes Fail to see your point?

Here's genuine proof that Bit-Investors scammed 0.2 BTC: https://blockchain.info/tx/c543697b8b8a9d3434c31cabcdf2ac5d2084564546dd88a9d42ec037292fa1ec

Say what you want about me, but nothing can deny that Bit-Investors.com has already started scamming (and stopped paying everyone when I threatened to make his scamming of me public). Check back in this thread in a week and see defenders here morph into people crying Cheesy

Ok we admit it all. bit-investors.com was hacked a while ago and the hacker stole all the coins in our medium-temperature wallet.

We're all very upset about this which is why we never told anyone until now. We can't refund you your 0.2 BTC because it was sent to us after the hack happened. It is considered common procedure to "keep" all deposits made after a bitcoin site is hacked like with inputs/cl.

You have to remember that the real victim here is silvercane because not only was he robbed of the BTC he could've made from shutting down the HYIP but also the cost of the domain and time wasted clicking on ads to get free hosting and coding the site using nulled scripts.

HYIP have no warranties of any kind for coins stored there.

Do not bother asking us for your money, we totally didn't keep it all and are totally telling the truth, just take everything I say to be complete truth there is no need for us to give any kind of proof we are telling the truth. We'll probably file a police report or some shit in a few years.

While significantly factually inaccurate, made me laugh still Smiley Nice.
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July 21, 2014, 09:56:57 PM
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Ok we admit it all. bit-investors.com was hacked a while ago and the hacker stole all the coins in our medium-temperature wallet.

We're all very upset about this which is why we never told anyone until now. We can't refund you your 0.2 BTC because it was sent to us after the hack happened. It is considered common procedure to "keep" all deposits made after a bitcoin site is hacked like with inputs/cl.

You have to remember that the real victim here is silvercane because not only was he robbed of the BTC he could've made from shutting down the HYIP but also the cost of the domain and time wasted clicking on ads to get free hosting and coding the site using nulled scripts.

HYIP have no warranties of any kind for coins stored there.

Do not bother asking us for your money, we totally didn't keep it all and are totally telling the truth, just take everything I say to be complete truth there is no need for us to give any kind of proof we are telling the truth. We'll probably file a police report or some shit in a few years.

This news is incorrect, I'm the owner and we were not hacked.
I'm not paying any attention to this thread as it's complete garbage.

Payments will resume as promised before Friday to any investors watching this thread Smiley

Exactly, simply post the TX id's of all your payments on friday and put this thread to rest. Simple as that. OP is just desperate.
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July 22, 2014, 04:13:15 AM
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That's all I have to say here, if anyone has any questions contact me. I'll only respond to scam accusations from current investors in this thread with explanations, I see none other than TradeFrotress' garbage here.

In other words: "if I scam you, you're not a current investor".
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July 22, 2014, 06:37:30 AM
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This news is incorrect, I'm the owner and we were not hacked.

My thoughts on this:

I of course don't think the owner should refund him the 0.2BTC, I do however feel that it should go to a charity. Tails gets most of its funding from Tor who get most of their funding from the gov, so I don't know why you would donate to Tails, they essentially have access to government funding and have plenty of cash.

Whereas projects like OpenBSD are struggling to pay the power bill: http://www.zdnet.com/electricity-bill-threatens-survival-of-openbsd-7000025276/
Maybe you could donate it to them instead.

Besides Tails sucks, they need to properly isolate the OS using virtualization, as it stands if you are rooted you can be identified very easily.

If you were actually scammed for 6BTC then of course you should keep it for yourself as reimbursement, but clearly you're lying when you say you lost 6BTC. If not then post your inputs email.

But of course you're just going to keep it, thats how a HYIP makes money, the owner keeps it.
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This news is incorrect, I'm the owner and we were not hacked.

My thoughts on this:

I of course don't think the owner should refund him the 0.2BTC, I do however feel that it should go to a charity. Tails gets most of its funding from Tor who get most of their funding from the gov, so I don't know why you would donate to Tails, they essentially have access to government funding and have plenty of cash.

Whereas projects like OpenBSD are struggling to pay the power bill: http://www.zdnet.com/electricity-bill-threatens-survival-of-openbsd-7000025276/
Maybe you could donate it to them instead.

Besides Tails sucks, they need to properly isolate the OS using virtualization, as it stands if you are rooted you can be identified very easily.

If you were actually scammed for 6BTC then of course you should keep it for yourself as reimbursement, but clearly you're lying when you say you lost 6BTC. If not then post your inputs email.

But of course you're just going to keep it, thats how a HYIP makes money, the owner keeps it.
Why would i give my personal email (the email I used on inputs) to a scammer and someone who obviously is not TradeFortress?
Even vod himself says it is not him...how can I be sure my email won't be used for something other than looking my account up?
Also providing it proves nothing... He won't reimburse it so my email is publicly there for people to see which can be used for all types of things. My email will not be posted, Free Hugs will not reimbursed and the charity will depend on whether Free Hugs proves that he is Tradefortress or until he hurries up and finishes trolling and pulls his head in.

Wrong account?

First of all, its tf, he has emailed people and has posted GPG signed messages. I don't know what more proof you want but there is tons if you actually take the time to look.

Also providing it proves nothing...

Not true, parts of the inputs user database leaked. So other users here can confirm it and your email is already public.
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July 27, 2014, 02:21:23 AM
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So Friday and Saturday have come and gone. Looks like you all got scammed.

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July 27, 2014, 05:24:57 AM
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So Friday and Saturday have come and gone. Looks like you all got scammed.

Yeah.

Say what you want about me, but nothing can deny that Bit-Investors.com has already started scamming (and stopped paying everyone when I threatened to make his scamming of me public). Check back in this thread in a week and see defenders here morph into people crying Cheesy

Didn't even take a week!
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July 29, 2014, 08:06:21 AM
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Hi all,

Several users in the 'official' Bit-Investors.com thread have asked me to make public details of the conversations I had with Silvercane.

I have decided to post them here due to this thread's unmoderated status.

http://www.filedropper.com/filemanager/public.php?service=files&t=25c79f32848dc660908660fa60d8edb0

EDIT: file is a PDF. The URL doesn't make that clear.
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Looks like tradefortress was right xD

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July 29, 2014, 08:35:06 AM
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Heh. Looks like my negative feedback pushed him into the red:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/mattduffin/negative_zps202f8a81.jpg

Not that it matters because:
  • He won't use silvercane again
  • He'll just create another username
  • It's too late for negative trust to matter
but it still feels good seeing it Cheesy

Interesting that the website & social media profiles are still up; they're usually the first to disappear.
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July 29, 2014, 08:37:30 AM
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Get a dox on him. Worked for btc-arbs

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Get a dox on him. Worked for btc-arbs

Ok, I've looked this up on Urban Dictionary Grin

I'd have no objections if somebody wanted to do this, but I would stress that the name he used in the contract is my first encounter with that name; it could be fake for all I know.

If I were to have gone ahead with the contract, I would've insisted on exchange of government-issued IDs, but it didn't get that far.
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Duffles, a dox is when you get somebody to track down a person over the internet and get their tue identity. It has worked before in the case of btc-arbs, another ponzi where the owner was caught so he had to pay back all the btc.

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Duffles, a dox is when you get somebody to track down a person over the internet and get their tue identity. It has worked before in the case of btc-arbs, another ponzi where the owner was caught so he had to pay back all the btc.

So it's a digital Dog The Bounty Hunter Wink ... legality?

When I produced code for him to automate the countdown clock, he said that his timezone was AEST - Australian Eastern. So it'd have to be someone who can operate with Australian ISPs, etc. Does the forum team release IP addresses in these cases then?
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Thats from silvercane, don't know if it helps...

http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3698/wyc7qqfb_png.htm


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July 29, 2014, 09:18:05 AM
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Heh. Looks like my negative feedback pushed him into the red:



Not that it matters because:
  • He won't use silvercane again
  • He'll just create another username
  • It's too late for negative trust to matter
but it still feels good seeing it Cheesy

Interesting that the website & social media profiles are still up; they're usually the first to disappear.

Since you are not in the default trust list, your trust feedback is "untrusted" to most of the people here and so his trust score is still 0 for most of us.
For details, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0 Smiley

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July 29, 2014, 09:45:59 AM
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Heh. Looks like my negative feedback pushed him into the red:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/mattduffin/negative_zps202f8a81.jpg

Not that it matters because:
  • He won't use silvercane again
  • He'll just create another username
  • It's too late for negative trust to matter
but it still feels good seeing it Cheesy

Interesting that the website & social media profiles are still up; they're usually the first to disappear.

Since you are not in the default trust list, your trust feedback is "untrusted" to most of the people here and so his trust score is still 0 for most of us.
For details, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0 Smiley

Ah sorry, I'm still new to this forum Smiley . Thanks for the link.
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July 29, 2014, 10:56:16 AM
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Well damn, I thought I would be fast & smart enough and invested 0.233 BTC in the 14 day plan. 8 days is damn short, but it seems he made quite an amount in that time.
Is there some way of help to get the money back (like it happened with btc-arbs) ?

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July 29, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
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Is there some way of help to get the money back (like it happened with btc-arbs) ?

I believe btc-arbs started to repay people back, because someone has successfully dox him.
You guys could try doing the same and get him. Good luck. Smiley

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July 29, 2014, 03:37:19 PM
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Is there some way of help to get the money back (like it happened with btc-arbs) ?

I believe btc-arbs started to repay people back, because someone has successfully dox him.
You guys could try doing the same and get him. Good luck. Smiley

you know any good doxxers?

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July 29, 2014, 03:41:27 PM
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Is there some way of help to get the money back (like it happened with btc-arbs) ?

I believe btc-arbs started to repay people back, because someone has successfully dox him.
You guys could try doing the same and get him. Good luck. Smiley

you know any good doxxers?

I don't know much about doxxing, but I have checked the btc-arbs dox earlier and I think bitsalame has done an incredible work. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639298.0

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July 30, 2014, 03:53:35 AM
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TheGambler appears to be silvercane. He slipped up, and has deleted the incriminating posts in this thread as a result. Here's one of his deleted posts:

This news is incorrect, I'm the owner and we were not hacked.

My thoughts on this:

I of course don't think the owner should refund him the 0.2BTC, I do however feel that it should go to a charity. Tails gets most of its funding from Tor who get most of their funding from the gov, so I don't know why you would donate to Tails, they essentially have access to government funding and have plenty of cash.

Whereas projects like OpenBSD are struggling to pay the power bill: http://www.zdnet.com/electricity-bill-threatens-survival-of-openbsd-7000025276/
Maybe you could donate it to them instead.

Besides Tails sucks, they need to properly isolate the OS using virtualization, as it stands if you are rooted you can be identified very easily.

If you were actually scammed for 6BTC then of course you should keep it for yourself as reimbursement, but clearly you're lying when you say you lost 6BTC. If not then post your inputs email.

But of course you're just going to keep it, thats how a HYIP makes money, the owner keeps it.
Why would i give my personal email (the email I used on inputs) to a scammer and someone who obviously is not TradeFortress?
Even vod himself says it is not him...how can I be sure my email won't be used for something other than looking my account up?
Also providing it proves nothing... He won't reimburse it so my email is publicly there for people to see which can be used for all types of things. My email will not be posted, Free Hugs will not reimbursed and the charity will depend on whether Free Hugs proves that he is Tradefortress or until he hurries up and finishes trolling and pulls his head in.

Here's other posts he made in the moderated service thread:

Seems like the number of payments are steadily increasing by the day...
congrats on the $500 paid mark!

Wow nice payouts!

Here is a post he made on a competing HYIP:

Quote from: TheGambler link=695577.msg7857193#msg7857193
Funny thing is they are using an OPEN SOURCE Bitcoin PONZI SCRIPT
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494757.0

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July 30, 2014, 06:04:50 PM
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Did anyone try doxxing silvercane so far?


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July 30, 2014, 11:09:35 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=710658.msg8110069#msg8110069

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July 31, 2014, 07:03:53 AM
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He only does U.S. Residents.
silvercane comes from Australia.


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July 31, 2014, 11:35:37 AM
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"1 bitcoin to start.
If I get information that is strongly leading to a real identity, 2 extra bitcoins at the release of the information.
Of course, I will never deliver half baked information, you already know how thorough I am.

Full disclaimer: I can't guarantee prosecution of the culprit, I can't guarantee that the culprit will return the money, I am not a legal adviser, and I only gather information from public sources of information. I can't guarantee the successful identification of the culprit, especially but not only if the culprit took preventive measures to avoid tracking. Some strongly leading information might require law enforcement intervention to serve subpoenas to institutions, my commitment doesn't include the contact with law enforcement. I can't be held responsible of the information that is released to armin22 or his associates.
The recommended prices are suggested donations for aiding in web crawling and connecting the dots from public sources of information.

If you agree with this, send a bitcoin to 16c3WkmjnAZ9H2ejMSqnyPYH2LZ7VXAq74"

That's the guy who managed to find the true identity of another HYIP guy, and the HYIP owner paid everyone back.

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July 31, 2014, 12:43:46 PM
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So in order to get our money back we send more money somewhere else ?

3 BTC is a lot. Did silvercane actually scam that much ?

I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
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July 31, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
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So in order to get our money back we send more money somewhere else ?

3 BTC is a lot. Did silvercane actually scam that much ?

He was in control of 75BTC, so he did have a lot of BTC

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July 31, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
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"1 bitcoin to start.
If I get information that is strongly leading to a real identity, 2 extra bitcoins at the release of the information.
Of course, I will never deliver half baked information, you already know how thorough I am.

Full disclaimer: I can't guarantee prosecution of the culprit, I can't guarantee that the culprit will return the money, I am not a legal adviser, and I only gather information from public sources of information. I can't guarantee the successful identification of the culprit, especially but not only if the culprit took preventive measures to avoid tracking. Some strongly leading information might require law enforcement intervention to serve subpoenas to institutions, my commitment doesn't include the contact with law enforcement. I can't be held responsible of the information that is released to armin22 or his associates.
The recommended prices are suggested donations for aiding in web crawling and connecting the dots from public sources of information.

If you agree with this, send a bitcoin to 16c3WkmjnAZ9H2ejMSqnyPYH2LZ7VXAq74"

That's the guy who managed to find the true identity of another HYIP guy, and the HYIP owner paid everyone back.


Would it be possible to start a sort of crowd funding BTC address where everyone pays a little bit in order to raise money for the dox?
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July 31, 2014, 12:57:30 PM
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So in order to get our money back we send more money somewhere else ?

3 BTC is a lot. Did silvercane actually scam that much ?

silvercane scammed about 5BTC I think plus everything he got from his "board investors".


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August 01, 2014, 01:38:55 AM
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Yo. Anyone else noticed what's on the bit-investors.com site now?

Anyone happen to have a spare multi-terahash miner they can repurpose to getting silvercane's private key? Cheesy

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Yo. Anyone else noticed what's on the bit-investors.com site now?

Anyone happen to have a spare multi-terahash miner they can repurpose to getting silvercane's private key? Cheesy

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WCTcbJ+/d5RV50XvEyq0IDEam4BWT50T22ye2TVFBDrk
=LMXg

-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

What is this?

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Yo. Anyone else noticed what's on the bit-investors.com site now?

Anyone happen to have a spare multi-terahash miner they can repurpose to getting silvercane's private key? Cheesy

Code:
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

hQIMAwAAAAAAAAAAAQ//btea8CnkH6V32ZPqz3FQMN1mF0DwCMWhEMKGtNJBK+Mn
6jBucJNXwiH3itzjFiOqqrC8MUMoXtfZdqLRzsg6hCBdoZKghr9L1SLZ9TqClo7M
S1ByUMVOTliK8mlFEg+CquYSzyd2XQiPssZakj8VC3hVDGEsAd7B22vcdSMVuIhx
CH7j1062rvyI39a66W8FwGN30tYM7/wi630SxVeE84h4dmeXLHYq8RqLzLrz1ETJ
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AQwDAAAAAAAAAAABB/9vTc8jpqDkwxbZ6yLsx/vWJvpbpWOHGzkgCv6NJ6rybzER
j8iUQAT0ljMXfht1LESZdpXFHePsqGeBQscyJLOJFDA6gcVBH9dxX2v3bJ8QZYqd
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0ozwiMCxbk877sXj0RM/iUdVB77bBtdfDT1I6D1GBg2j+OYGmTtv678EjMEY5kc4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=LMXg

-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

What is this?

It's what's currently on what was the bit-investors website.

You know how you can sign a message using the private key of an address you own? E.g. 'hello' signed with the address in my signature is 'G2Nw/iBBh36UVXr+FP4+EthV/1I8ulDiOSI+M0oSrsZ94RJKq5ZqgVWT2GKLGnsIW656z/xJi5bVZP9Y8YR+bl8=', which proves that I own the address and that I signed the message. Well, say I wanted to send you an encrypted message. You send me your PGP public key. I then encrypt my message with your key and send it however I want. It (theoretically, assuming no security flaws) should be broadcastable to the world, yet only you with your private key can read my secret message.

The question is, who is the message for?
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Yo. Anyone else noticed what's on the bit-investors.com site now?

Anyone happen to have a spare multi-terahash miner they can repurpose to getting silvercane's private key? Cheesy

Code:
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

hQIMAwAAAAAAAAAAAQ//btea8CnkH6V32ZPqz3FQMN1mF0DwCMWhEMKGtNJBK+Mn
6jBucJNXwiH3itzjFiOqqrC8MUMoXtfZdqLRzsg6hCBdoZKghr9L1SLZ9TqClo7M
S1ByUMVOTliK8mlFEg+CquYSzyd2XQiPssZakj8VC3hVDGEsAd7B22vcdSMVuIhx
CH7j1062rvyI39a66W8FwGN30tYM7/wi630SxVeE84h4dmeXLHYq8RqLzLrz1ETJ
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kj3LUC35A/tMMA3PPSzQmQtcWKQyTfNL197FjzWF0lozngQmpnqW69TmqF4A+7Qv
UtE42OopHElinJQp6eYJ5FVjqqRHdbhBtvp5HupCqfRv80PF48blkt0NNtrw88UI
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e5b1YEr8ZVjkGiZaGJpEyNF9TbW32R0xovOMD/UW/jzeFSiz6z0XJsHF0k4YSZ2F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=LMXg

-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

What is this?

It's what's currently on what was the bit-investors website.

You know how you can sign a message using the private key of an address you own? E.g. 'hello' signed with the address in my signature is 'G2Nw/iBBh36UVXr+FP4+EthV/1I8ulDiOSI+M0oSrsZ94RJKq5ZqgVWT2GKLGnsIW656z/xJi5bVZP9Y8YR+bl8=', which proves that I own the address and that I signed the message. Well, say I wanted to send you an encrypted message. You send me your PGP public key. I then encrypt my message with your key and send it however I want. It (theoretically, assuming no security flaws) should be broadcastable to the world, yet only you with your private key can read my secret message.

The question is, who is the message for?

Illuminati preparations.

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Guys i'd like you to know that bit investors just came online on skype and then went invisible

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The question is, who is the message for?

That's a message ripped out from the CoinLenders thread. This post here:

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: intentionally left blank

hQIMAwAAAAAAAAAAAQ//btea8CnkH6V32ZPqz3FQMN1mF0DwCMWhEMKGtNJBK+Mn
6jBucJNXwiH3itzjFiOqqrC8MUMoXtfZdqLRzsg6hCBdoZKghr9L1SLZ9TqClo7M
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CH7j1062rvyI39a66W8FwGN30tYM7/wi630SxVeE84h4dmeXLHYq8RqLzLrz1ETJ
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UtE42OopHElinJQp6eYJ5FVjqqRHdbhBtvp5HupCqfRv80PF48blkt0NNtrw88UI
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D7+smBpgKlw73Eun7E8qSboAE5Ni22KJzHgHGJfThTQkTPKqZScEbUF4GRp8SvMb
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AQwDAAAAAAAAAAABB/9vTc8jpqDkwxbZ6yLsx/vWJvpbpWOHGzkgCv6NJ6rybzER
j8iUQAT0ljMXfht1LESZdpXFHePsqGeBQscyJLOJFDA6gcVBH9dxX2v3bJ8QZYqd
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YTqu24Jn5YS+DTknabBkCy+VDiO+JddCjo+Sj0EjYdprNg2ITp4+m6++nrDW6ZfL
Q7o7ke0aYvrTJjADKV2UdIuam/wBX52Ba2nZJqkw0sDwAQS1geLfKD1cpsP/v4qP
B3IGxR3xUkAKXwf4U7Z+cYCCkq4bes+cjZ1V5RPWeQfXIyVTuvEH8g4tdDKgl5m3
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xAv4Rj+LIRhcHsGviNJiswR9W6fZMkuyXmQ5feDfvrfsToi6xX2GPa8Gp753GZGR
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/7O+o8SyrAEQfPm1FWv9ERQUa/E1vhJMjD27l33S7kAw8hT7nVZ7Ouua1RT/03tD
W+PjtEQw94IC06L1InSwcQe78lbj9mH5Dk8bAS4Vn0MQSxvudEJqQp5VC3U0W39Q
WCTcbJ+/d5RV50XvEyq0IDEam4BWT50T22ye2TVFBDrk
=LMXg
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----


Needless to say, silvercane posted this as a red herring.
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August 06, 2014, 01:00:41 PM
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Latest scam by silvercane: https://bitcompound.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720507.0
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How did you manage to work out it's silvercane?
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Trying to PM you, says PMs are blocked?
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Plenty of obvious public tells

* manually updated website, format
* same format for BTC depositing, including the fixed address and QR code part
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"Your investment will be added to the active investments page at 12pm UTC Standard Time and paid according to the date you invested, and which plan you invested in"
* same use of forwarding to central blockchain.info address, using Blockchain.info notes
* same web host (GoDaddy), same SSL cert (Starfield)

There's also direct evidence that incriminates the operator of Bitcompound is silvercane, however I'm not going to reveal that so I can continue to alert about his future HYIPs Wink
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Yep, email me Smiley
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Plenty of obvious public tells

* manually updated website, format
* same format for BTC depositing, including the fixed address and QR code part
Quote
"Your investment will be added to the active investments page at 12pm UTC Standard Time and paid according to the date you invested, and which plan you invested in"
* same use of forwarding to central blockchain.info address, using Blockchain.info notes
* same web host (GoDaddy), same SSL cert (Starfield)

There's also direct evidence that incriminates the operator of Bitcompound is silvercane, however I'm not going to reveal that so I can continue to alert about his future HYIPs Wink

Thanks for investing (haha) your time looking out for things like this. I wish I'd seen your non-moderated warning post before sending anything to BitInvestors.
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Plenty of obvious public tells

* manually updated website, format
* same format for BTC depositing, including the fixed address and QR code part
Quote
"Your investment will be added to the active investments page at 12pm UTC Standard Time and paid according to the date you invested, and which plan you invested in"
* same use of forwarding to central blockchain.info address, using Blockchain.info notes
* same web host (GoDaddy), same SSL cert (Starfield)

There's also direct evidence that incriminates the operator of Bitcompound is silvercane, however I'm not going to reveal that so I can continue to alert about his future HYIPs Wink

Thanks for investing (haha) your time looking out for things like this. I wish I'd seen your non-moderated warning post before sending anything to BitInvestors.
Right now there is no automated HYIP solution except this one, most sites have this same system. As for blockchain it is a good idea to have a central wallet to process payments so people know where it is from what is wrong with that? And GD SSL is essential on any site and no our SSL is not shared with any other site it is unique to bitcompound.


stfu silvercunt

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Right now there is no automated HYIP solution except this one, most sites have this same system. As for blockchain it is a good idea to have a central wallet to process payments so people know where it is from what is wrong with that? And GD SSL is essential on any site and no our SSL is not shared with any other site it is unique to bitcompound.

Not correct. There are numerous automated HYIPs for Bitcoin. There are only three sites with an identical system:

https://bit-investors.com/ (dead, scammed)
http://bitempower.com/index.php (ran by someone who supposedly 'deposited' 5 BTC into Bit-Investors)
https://bitcompound.com/

These three are obviously related, and the only three that uses the exact same methodology -- down to the URL formats:

https://bitempower.com/invest/plans.php
https://bitcompound.com/invest/plans.php

https://bitcompound.com/invest/active.php
https://bitempower.com/invest/active.php

https://bitempower.com/invest/archive.php
https://bitcompound.com/invest/archive.php

(Dead: https://bit-investors.com/invest/plans.php, https://bit-investors.com/invest/active.php, https://bit-investors.com/invest/archive.php)

They're all hosted on GoDaddy as well, with a GoDaddy Starfield SSL certificate, using a Blockchain.info wallet, with 1x Twitter and 1x Skype which is always invisible.

This base template is not publicly sold anywhere, meaning all of these three sites are ran by people who are associated with silvercane.

There's bit more than this (well, actually a lot - direct), but as mentioned I won't be posting about my tricks Wink

Posted this because gambian- refuses to return my 0.2 BTC that he scammed, and ignored my followup emails.
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Right now there is no automated HYIP solution except this one, most sites have this same system. As for blockchain it is a good idea to have a central wallet to process payments so people know where it is from what is wrong with that? And GD SSL is essential on any site and no our SSL is not shared with any other site it is unique to bitcompound.

Not correct. There are numerous automated HYIPs for Bitcoin. There are only three sites with an identical system:

https://bit-investors.com/ (dead, scammed)
http://bitempower.com/index.php (ran by someone who supposedly 'deposited' 5 BTC into Bit-Investors)
https://bitcompound.com/

These three are obviously related, and the only three that uses the exact same methodology -- down to the URL formats:

https://bitempower.com/invest/plans.php
https://bitcompound.com/invest/plans.php

https://bitcompound.com/invest/active.php
https://bitempower.com/invest/active.php

https://bitempower.com/invest/archive.php
https://bitcompound.com/invest/archive.php

(Dead: https://bit-investors.com/invest/plans.php, https://bit-investors.com/invest/active.php, https://bit-investors.com/invest/archive.php)

They're all hosted on GoDaddy as well, with a GoDaddy Starfield SSL certificate, using a Blockchain.info wallet, with 1x Twitter and 1x Skype which is always invisible.

This base template is not publicly sold anywhere, meaning all of these three sites are ran by people who are associated with silvercane.

There's bit more than this (well, actually a lot - direct), but as mentioned I won't be posting about my tricks Wink

Posted this because gambian- refuses to return my 0.2 BTC that he scammed, and ignored my followup emails.
I lost around that in bit investors when they claimed they needed a board. Great to see you're back trolling again, thanks for bumping my thread. That is All I have to say here kid. Try working on oaying the 4,000BTC you stole instead of trying to give honest site owners sites bad rep.
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I lost around that in bit investors when they claimed they needed a board. Great to see you're back trolling again, thanks for bumping my thread. That is All I have to say here kid. Try working on oaying the 4,000BTC you stole instead of trying to give honest site owners sites bad rep.

he just throwing lies at it because he has -573 trust.

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So you still have all of the information of inputs and cl members? Meaning you still have the website data?
If you didn't steal the 4k BTC why would you refund me
All of your arguments aren't adding up.
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Keep digging your own grave. You also may want to respond to my allegations instead of an ad hominem logical fallacy which is only noise attempting to dilute.
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I lost around that in bit investors when they claimed they needed a board. Great to see you're back trolling again, thanks for bumping my thread. That is All I have to say here kid. Try working on oaying the 4,000BTC you stole instead of trying to give honest site owners sites bad rep.

he just throwing lies at it because he has -573 trust.

Quote from: silvercane

So you still have all of the information of inputs and cl members? Meaning you still have the website data?
If you didn't steal the 4k BTC why would you refund me
All of your arguments aren't adding up.
Reply

Keep digging your own grave. You also may want to respond to my allegations instead of an ad hominem logical fallacy which is only noise attempting to dilute.

What ever you say boss
How's your riches anyway, why aren't you enjoying your filthy money instead of wasting your life on bitcointalk? Doesn't australia allow dirty Bitcoin withdrawals?
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I lost around that in bit investors when they claimed they needed a board. Great to see you're back trolling again, thanks for bumping my thread. That is All I have to say here kid. Try working on oaying the 4,000BTC you stole instead of trying to give honest site owners sites bad rep.

he just throwing lies at it because he has -573 trust.

Quote from: silvercane

So you still have all of the information of inputs and cl members? Meaning you still have the website data?
If you didn't steal the 4k BTC why would you refund me
All of your arguments aren't adding up.
Reply

Keep digging your own grave. You also may want to respond to my allegations instead of an ad hominem logical fallacy which is only noise attempting to dilute.

What ever you say boss
How's your riches anyway, why aren't you enjoying your filthy money instead of wasting your life on bitcointalk? Doesn't australia allow dirty Bitcoin withdrawals?


Stop being silly, the account was either sold or hacked, or given for free. Its not the real tradefortress.....

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I lost around that in bit investors when they claimed they needed a board. Great to see you're back trolling again, thanks for bumping my thread. That is All I have to say here kid. Try working on oaying the 4,000BTC you stole instead of trying to give honest site owners sites bad rep.

he just throwing lies at it because he has -573 trust.

Quote from: silvercane

So you still have all of the information of inputs and cl members? Meaning you still have the website data?
If you didn't steal the 4k BTC why would you refund me
All of your arguments aren't adding up.
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Keep digging your own grave. You also may want to respond to my allegations instead of an ad hominem logical fallacy which is only noise attempting to dilute.

What ever you say boss
How's your riches anyway, why aren't you enjoying your filthy money instead of wasting your life on bitcointalk? Doesn't australia allow dirty Bitcoin withdrawals?


Stop being silly, the account was either sold or hacked, or given for free. Its not the real tradefortress.....
You keep on telling yourself that.
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