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July 22, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
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apart from blackmailing your money back. karpeles and pirate@40 both got caught. but in both cases the victims WILL NOT get 100% return.,

once people start to realise that the best they can aim for is 50%, they can then realise that they can reclaim their funds legally.

the simplest and cheapest method is to get a debt collection agency in the town of the perpetrator involved, yes they take a fee, but atleast you know you will be getting atleast your 50% back, and doing it legally. even the threat of a debt collection agency annoying their real lives is enough to get some recompense from the scammer.

people will then stop waiting for months whining and moaning that the SEC wont help them or get involved, or that courts take too long or that its not worth the plane ticket to slap the scammer with a wet fish. and also people will start doing their due diligence of asking for ID so that the other party is not a stranger to them.

this is the kind of consumer protection knowledge that needs to be taught to people..

Pirate totally ended up blowing the money, failing at day trading and whatever else. He ended up personally only getting $0.75 per BTC, which is completely laughable. He was such a massive failure at even scamming.
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July 22, 2014, 06:43:43 PM
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I have heard of BTC getting returned...but the person being actually physically caught...I haven't heard of any big time stories of that...
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July 22, 2014, 06:44:26 PM
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Bitfloor "hacker": nope

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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July 22, 2014, 07:21:54 PM
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I have heard of BTC getting returned...but the person being actually physically caught...I haven't heard of any big time stories of that...

Pirateat40 is currently on trial in the US after running a 700,000 BTC Ponzi scheme on this message board.
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July 22, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
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There have been a few instances where the thief has returned the stolen bitcoin
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July 22, 2014, 07:25:13 PM
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I have heard of BTC getting returned...but the person being actually physically caught...I haven't heard of any big time stories of that...

Pirateat40 is currently on trial in the US after running a 700,000 BTC Ponzi scheme on this message board.

what, really? there's a guy who was able to get away with 700k btc? that sounds pretty funny though, especially when you take into consideration his.. username.
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July 22, 2014, 08:30:23 PM
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I have heard of BTC getting returned...but the person being actually physically caught...I haven't heard of any big time stories of that...

Pirateat40 is currently on trial in the US after running a 700,000 BTC Ponzi scheme on this message board.

what, really? there's a guy who was able to get away with 700k btc? that sounds pretty funny though, especially when you take into consideration his.. username.

It was a 700k BTC Ponzi of which he had around 200k BTC that wasn't paid out. But he managed to only withdraw ~150k USD in cash so he lost almost all of that extra BTC somehow. Most of it likely on Gox attempting to daytrade as the SEC said. He ended up buying a new truck or something and that's about it... lol.
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July 22, 2014, 08:33:03 PM
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I have heard of BTC getting returned...but the person being actually physically caught...I haven't heard of any big time stories of that...

Pirateat40 is currently on trial in the US after running a 700,000 BTC Ponzi scheme on this message board.

what, really? there's a guy who was able to get away with 700k btc? that sounds pretty funny though, especially when you take into consideration his.. username.

It was a 700k BTC Ponzi of which he had around 200k BTC that wasn't paid out. But he managed to only withdraw ~150k USD in cash so he lost almost all of that extra BTC somehow. Most of it likely on Gox attempting to daytrade as the SEC said. He ended up buying a new truck or something and that's about it... lol.

i wouldn't have thought that users he would be so gullible as to trust someone pushing a ponzi scheme. then again, a lot of silk roaders are cracked out druggies looking to get their next fix.
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July 22, 2014, 09:00:59 PM
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I have heard of BTC getting returned...but the person being actually physically caught...I haven't heard of any big time stories of that...

Pirateat40 is currently on trial in the US after running a 700,000 BTC Ponzi scheme on this message board.

what, really? there's a guy who was able to get away with 700k btc? that sounds pretty funny though, especially when you take into consideration his.. username.

It was a 700k BTC Ponzi of which he had around 200k BTC that wasn't paid out. But he managed to only withdraw ~150k USD in cash so he lost almost all of that extra BTC somehow. Most of it likely on Gox attempting to daytrade as the SEC said. He ended up buying a new truck or something and that's about it... lol.

i wouldn't have thought that users he would be so gullible as to trust someone pushing a ponzi scheme. then again, a lot of silk roaders are cracked out druggies looking to get their next fix.

Woah really??? I mean that's about like a 15-20th of all Bitcoins mined until this date!!! Man, Ponzi schemes are fucked up! There are even Ponzis over in the Gambling forum that admit openly that they in fact are Ponzis! And people participate!!! Messed up!!!

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July 22, 2014, 09:04:13 PM
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yeah it's kind of strange. i'm convinced that people equally have the knack to make money as they do to losing it. same goes with degenerate gamblers.
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July 22, 2014, 09:05:42 PM
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yeah it's kind of strange. i'm convinced that people equally have the knack to make money as they do to losing it. same goes with degenerate gamblers.

Yaaa well, I guess it's the greed getting the best of them! You always see people abandon all their due diligence and cautiousness as soon as there's the chance of winning a lot of money involved!

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July 22, 2014, 09:26:45 PM
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yeah it's kind of strange. i'm convinced that people equally have the knack to make money as they do to losing it. same goes with degenerate gamblers.

Yaaa well, I guess it's the greed getting the best of them! You always see people abandon all their due diligence and cautiousness as soon as there's the chance of winning a lot of money involved!
Fear and greed often cloud the minds of "investors" when they are making what should be sound decisions with their money.
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July 22, 2014, 09:46:53 PM
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yeah it's kind of strange. i'm convinced that people equally have the knack to make money as they do to losing it. same goes with degenerate gamblers.

Yaaa well, I guess it's the greed getting the best of them! You always see people abandon all their due diligence and cautiousness as soon as there's the chance of winning a lot of money involved!
Fear and greed often cloud the minds of "investors" when they are making what should be sound decisions with their money.

Yes exactly! Many times people only seem to see the potential profits and totally neglect the risks associated with their investment! Also unexperienced investors act out of their emotions and fail to honor their stop-losses! Man, I've adapted some expert terms there  Grin

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July 22, 2014, 09:58:51 PM
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also, i remember the guy who heisted the sheep marketplace bitcoins was doxed. not sure what happened to him, but i'm assuming he's on the run. i haven't heard much about it recently though.
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July 22, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
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Yes, I've seen stories about people getting their money back after a hacker has taken it back for them and there are people here who specialise in that kind of thing if you give them a share of the loot, the problem is the media either don't know anything about it because they're stupid or the hackers that go after these big heists know how to cover their tracks.

"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable." - Sun Tzu

Do you have a source for such story?

Sure, I'll need to dig around though but I remember seeing it on Bitcointalk awhile back I think there's a guy that specialises in that sort of thing here somewhere,

A lot of these things have gone on in the Scam Accusations sub-forum. May need to do some digging, but there are some gems of a story in there; including some who dox/investigate thieves.

In full disclosure, a "guilty pleasure" of mine when things were quieter was looking at all of the drama that happened there, along with a bunch of the results.
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July 22, 2014, 10:55:23 PM
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Yes, I've seen stories about people getting their money back after a hacker has taken it back for them and there are people here who specialise in that kind of thing if you give them a share of the loot, the problem is the media either don't know anything about it because they're stupid or the hackers that go after these big heists know how to cover their tracks.

"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable." - Sun Tzu

Do you have a source for such story?

Sure, I'll need to dig around though but I remember seeing it on Bitcointalk awhile back I think there's a guy that specialises in that sort of thing here somewhere,

A lot of these things have gone on in the Scam Accusations sub-forum. May need to do some digging, but there are some gems of a story in there; including some who dox/investigate thieves.

In full disclosure, a "guilty pleasure" of mine when things were quieter was looking at all of the drama that happened there, along with a bunch of the results.

Whoa that's some 'Schadenfreude' you got there  Grin Not good for you Karma. But yeah man, the things over there are unbelievable! Hundreds of BTC lost or scammed!!!
Has anything ever happened to the Bitfunder/Ukyo thing?

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July 22, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
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Yes, I've seen stories about people getting their money back after a hacker has taken it back for them and there are people here who specialise in that kind of thing if you give them a share of the loot, the problem is the media either don't know anything about it because they're stupid or the hackers that go after these big heists know how to cover their tracks.

"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable." - Sun Tzu

Do you have a source for such story?

Sure, I'll need to dig around though but I remember seeing it on Bitcointalk awhile back I think there's a guy that specialises in that sort of thing here somewhere,

A lot of these things have gone on in the Scam Accusations sub-forum. May need to do some digging, but there are some gems of a story in there; including some who dox/investigate thieves.

In full disclosure, a "guilty pleasure" of mine when things were quieter was looking at all of the drama that happened there, along with a bunch of the results.
I think the only real way to potentially recover stolen bitcoin would be to dox them and confront them in person, or in some manor that is not in their "internet world"
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July 22, 2014, 11:57:44 PM
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Nowadays It's modern to speak about how bitcoin is not really anonymous but after all those bitcoins heists, hacks and what not, has anyone been actually caught, ever?

Yes people do get caught sometimes but its not made public too often
There are a few examples on the forum if you look at all the hacks but some do get away with it...
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July 23, 2014, 02:41:49 AM
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Yes, I've seen stories about people getting their money back after a hacker has taken it back for them and there are people here who specialise in that kind of thing if you give them a share of the loot, the problem is the media either don't know anything about it because they're stupid or the hackers that go after these big heists know how to cover their tracks.

"The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable." - Sun Tzu

Do you have a source for such story?

Sure, I'll need to dig around though but I remember seeing it on Bitcointalk awhile back I think there's a guy that specialises in that sort of thing here somewhere,

A lot of these things have gone on in the Scam Accusations sub-forum. May need to do some digging, but there are some gems of a story in there; including some who dox/investigate thieves.

In full disclosure, a "guilty pleasure" of mine when things were quieter was looking at all of the drama that happened there, along with a bunch of the results.

Whoa that's some 'Schadenfreude' you got there  Grin Not good for you Karma. But yeah man, the things over there are unbelievable! Hundreds of BTC lost or scammed!!!
Has anything ever happened to the Bitfunder/Ukyo thing?

Sorry, it's actually not in a joy at misery kind of way. It's more in a morbid fascination sort of way. It's the gall that some people have that captures my attention more than anything.
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July 23, 2014, 05:10:25 AM
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The most amazing thing is that the guy who sent 800 BTC to Mt. Gox after it already went belly-up, got his money back. He wrote to some people at the Bitcoin foundation and also to the lawyers organizing Mt. Gox's insolvency, and he got them back! Fat chance!

What? When did this happen?

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