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July 29, 2014, 03:48:57 PM
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80% of players were whiped out by scams and left the scene. In the end the only survivors in here will be like 20 paranoids who then own all the non-scamcoins  Cheesy

Yes, or - gasp! - the 20 or so who came here to learn something and build the future.






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July 29, 2014, 04:03:22 PM
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Too many coins. Too many scams. Too many pump&dumps.

The end result:    People lose money and leave. Never to return. Less and less btc invested.

Personally, I just sit on my btc and a few altcoins waiting for better times. Does not pay to invest in a failing market.

this post pretty much says it all!  Grin

who can afford to keep risking it all in a down market?

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July 29, 2014, 05:39:15 PM
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A bitcoin pump to 1.3k or more would bring lots of new money in altcoins.
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July 30, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
Last edit: July 31, 2014, 11:03:37 PM by Nxtblg
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stuff just keeps dropping more and more, in generally my portfolio is down like ~60% since last month

Are you sure that you picked quality? Is there a game-changer - a catalyst - for the coins you're bagholding that gives you confidence in those coins' future?

I have one - one that I'm riding a greater than 90% loss on - and the catalyst in its case was a community takeover to eliminate a controversial premine and the controversial dev who seems to have vanished.

I sized up the community members beforehand, and felt confident that they could maintain the coin and build its ecosystem over the long term. I also watched its price and saw it slowly shake off its lows. Even though it's well above its bottom now, it's still way way below the price at which I bought in.

I had 0.5 BTC to spare, which I sent up to Bittrex earlier today. With it, I placed a big bid at a close-to-ask price. Not right at the ask, but well above the then-high bid.

That 0.5 BTC was one-sixth of the amount I had originally sunk in. If my whole bid goes through at my price - which I had to up by a teeny bit because at least one other got the same idea - I'll end up with 2.75 times my original stake. 1/6th the BTC for 1.75 X the coins: doing the math will show how much I'm down as of now.

But, as I said, I'm confident that this coin is going to turn around. The general lull, as well as the general cloud this coin is still under, have combined to give me a chance to add to my stake at a much cheaper price. In stock-market lingo, I'm "averaging down."

Just a warning: Although I've had some prior luck with averaging down, it's well known to be a perilous and risky maneuver. It's also known as "throwing good money after bad." Had I done so with Juggalo Coin - there was a time I was tempted to do so - I would have been entirely wasting the BTC. Thankfully, I refrained from buying more Jugglao Coin because there wasn't any catalyst. The dev had deserted and there was no community takeover to look over. No catalyst, no throwing any good BTC after bad.

If I were in your shoes, I'd be thinking that I have a real judgment call ahead of me. Which coins in my bagholding bag are a write-off, which have potential but are kinda iffy, and which have a solid catalyst that rates averaging down through buying more and lowering the cost basis?

One thing about speculation: if you go bargain hunting, you have to be awfully choosy.

Now, I know I'm not you - I know I can't even play you all that well on the Internet  Smiley - but if you don't mind a little more nattering, I suggest that it's time to give your portfolio a serious look-over with an eye to pruning. Sorry about your losses, but there is a time for salvage too. Some BTC is better than none.  Smiley    

Just to give you an update, the coin I mentioned above is Quebecoin. It was launched at the tail end of the airdrop country/nation coin fad, turned out to have a dev who was in over his head, and was taken over by a solid new team of community members - all Quebecois francophones, thankfully.

The odd thing about my bid - now is the first time I've experienced this - is that it seems to have kickstarted a kind of foot race that's upped both the bids and the asks. I've actually had to raise my bid by small amounts several times. When I stopped foot-racing, hoping that the climb would cool off, it didn't - not enough for the price to sink back to my bid. So I went back to raising my bid, with smaller volume to go with the higher bid price. Currently, I have the high bid at 803 - up from my starting bid at 700 - and most of my BTC @ Bittrex is still BTC.

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-QBC

[Oh hell -the high bid is now 999 with a substantial bid at 900. You'll see a fuller update here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708702.msg8106986#msg8106986 ]


EDIT/UPDATE: Pulled back to 900, I waited at 805, then it turned around and headed above 1000 again. I just upped my bid to 1100 and the low ask for QBC is now 1200. My fault for being a blabbermouth, I guess...






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July 30, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
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i noticed they have pumped keycoin to x10, here your answer they are there, they usually pump at least one coin
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July 30, 2014, 09:31:31 PM
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There's always been a pump of a month.  It's an organized group with huge capital which attracts in the lemmings and the lemmings tend to get destroyed in the process.  Much like in the stock market a lot of alternates can be rigged nowadays with insider trading and bots that can perform transactions within milliseconds of a price update - a human daytrader has no chance, intuition cannot beat machine.

Of course the whine threads will continue forever until  the alternate section gets shut down.

A lot of people compare alternates with gambling but that's only IF you don't do your homework.   It might be a 10x to 1000x return but there's many promising upcoming coins where, if you invest in the beginning and are willing to hold for months / years, you're going to make money on it..  definitely more ROI % then you can get off real estate or regular stocks on the stock market.

There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution.  The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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