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[Gogo ppp]

VANCOUVER/colorado 5.5
Over 2.27/+127
Under 1.56/-178.57

Niiiice.

~ 52 cent line i.e.  -126/-126   1.7937/1.7937

Anything worse than -110/-110  1.9091/1.9091 is inexcusable.

Anything sold at -126/-126 is in error. Did you see this inplay or prematch? Please can you provide some more information so that we can look into it.

Cloudbet

It was prematch.

I see that the widely available line was using 5.0 for the total of that game, so I guess that was an alternate line? Although it was the only one I saw offered at that time by Cloudbet. Or the only one I noticed.

I don't have anything to compare it to.

Currently you're showing on the NHL overnite STL/sj:
Over 5.5   2.37 /+137
Under 5.5  1.52 / -192.31

But the widely available line is using 5.0 for the total.
Most books don't have alternate lines up currently so I'm not sure what other books will be charging for a total of 5.5

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[Gogo ppp]

Ice Hockey/NHL:

BOSTON/columbus you are using the widely available total number of 5.5

You have:

Over 1.99       / -101
Under  1.73    / -137


So a 38 cent line.

-119 / -119    1.8403/ 1.8403

so not a 52 cent line but a 38 cent line for the widely available total number.


Look at your line service and see if you can find any other book anywhere with those lines.

[Gogo ppp]

Constant problems reported in the Cloudbet thread, not only on the weekend but every day.

[Gogo ppp]

Folks

We've made some major trading improvements under the hood, and are taking a conservative approach until we iron out all of the kinks. You'll see our margins on major markets for major sports (NBA, EPL, etc) are all extremely tight.

We're looking through each of the most popular markets one at a time, but if you'd like special attention on anything please raise it with us.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

"We've made some major trading improvements under the hood..."

Please name one.

[Mars110]

Very interesting and very good. Here we can see the sites that move in the sports match and we can see which sites the better and most preferred by the gamblers. And this is very helpful for me and all of us who want to look for the best and trusted site. But I see this thread is no longer functioning, and because of what this thread is not running again ..??

[Peeps Place]

Very interesting and very good. Here we can see the sites that move in the sports match and we can see which sites the better and most preferred by the gamblers. And this is very helpful for me and all of us who want to look for the best and trusted site. But I see this thread is no longer functioning, and because of what this thread is not running again ..??

Why do you say this thread isn't running?

[Gogo ppp]

Is any btc book offering Nascar?

[TwitchySeal]

Is any btc book offering Nascar?

5 dimes has futures up now for Sprint Cup, but they had Daytona 500 lines up 3 days before the race.

From promo email:

Get your motor runnin' at 5Dimes with more ways to wager the Daytona 500 – Sunday, February 21st.  Browse through a huge selection of odds on NASCAR's most prestigious race to find the bet you are looking for.  Choose from a variety of unique props or simply wager your favorite to win the 500-mile long race!

[Peeps Place]

Is any btc book offering Nascar?

I don't see anything up now but I think Betcoinsports offers Nascar.

[Cloudbet]

Ice Hockey/NHL:

BOSTON/columbus you are using the widely available total number of 5.5

You have:

Over 1.99       / -101
Under  1.73    / -137


So a 38 cent line.

-119 / -119    1.8403/ 1.8403

so not a 52 cent line but a 38 cent line for the widely available total number.


Look at your line service and see if you can find any other book anywhere with those lines.

Our NHL margins are now much tighter, and our limits higher.

Washington Capitals V Montreal Canadiens
Over 5.5   +117
Under 5.5   -134

Please let us know if you have any other feedback. Thanks!

Cheers,
Cloudbet

[Kepler510]

I run all my opinions behind the scenes with others at peepsplace to see what they think after they take a test drive. The people that I run it by have extensive gambling backgrounds. Some have dealt with cash book complaints in the past. I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

Nitrogen is a huge operation for a bitcoin book. They are located in Costa Rica with a marketing department in Canada. Because their player base is so big, they are going to have complaints. If complaints were tracked by percentage of players at Nitrogen, it's very low compared to other books. Small books shouldn't have as many complaints because their player base is much smaller.

It's safe to say that Nitrogen knows what they are doing and take all complaints seriously. If anyone has a problem, submit a support ticket and they will take care of it. They are also very open and transparent with me. I'm on Skype with 3 different people at Nitrogen. If someone wants me to look into something, just give me your permission to see your account details and Nitrogen will tell me exactly what happened.

[BetBTC]

I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

We haven't found any complaint about BetBTC since 2014. Please point us something.
Thanks

[Peeps Place]

I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

We haven't found any complaint about BetBTC since 2014. Please point us something.
Thanks

BetBTC - You added a lot since the last upgrade. For the NBA you now have spreads, money lines, totals as well as first halves. Everything looks great.

I hate to say anything negative about you because there are so many positives. You still need more liquidity to get into the "B"s. Upgrades go one step at a time.

BetBTC upgraded from "C-" to "C"

[Peeps Place]

I tried using vitalbet deposited took 2-3 conf before it went it and after betting i tried withdrawing yesterday when i woke up after 8hrs  it got rejected and now i requested another withdrawal will update this post about the status.

update : I received an email from support saying before you could withdraw you need to do 2x rollover of the amount you deposit didnt saw any notice about this one beware guys.

Was there a bonus involved?

If not, there is no excuse for a book to demand any rollover for a btc withdrawal.


Peeps - This should be flagged as an "F" Do Not Use book if there was no bonus involved.

Wow. That definitely should be written in the rules. Give me a little time to look a little deeper.

VitalBet isn't going to be part of the rating's guide since they are a fiat book that accepts bitcoins. That said, it's nice for the warning for us to see.

[Peeps Place]

"A" rated books
NitrogenSports A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Bitcoinrush B (2013)

"C" rated books
Anonibet C+ (2011)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
DirectBet C+ (2014)
Betbtc C (2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)


"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
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betbanks.com
betmbtc.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
BTCBook
Coin178.com
coinbet24.com
Flutterclub.com
lvaction.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

[Peeps Place]

[BetBTC]

BetBTC - You added a lot since the last upgrade. For the NBA you now have spreads, money lines, totals as well as first halves. Everything looks great.

I hate to say anything negative about you because there are so many positives. You still need more liquidity to get into the "B"s. Upgrades go one step at a time.

BetBTC upgraded from "C-" to "C"

Allright, let's see what happens during the following weeks.

Cheers

[cryptosmoker]

Hi,

In my opinion the exception given for "instant withdraws" to Betcoin is too generous.

I realize the potential fraud that peer to peer poker exposes them to, but it's gotten to the point that they are using it as an excuse to process players withdraws at their leisure.

There's no reason Betcoin can't consider cashouts made by non poker players seperately.  It should only take a minute to check and see if a player has played any poker or transfered funds to another player.

Nitrogen also offers poker, although less focused on it, and their withdraws are nearly always truly instant.

Less than a year ago, at Betcoin I was comfortable requesting an expedited withdraw by live chat and could expect the withdraw to be complete in 30-60 minutes. That was great. Now I always hesitate to even ask, as I worry the next time I may consider the withdraw even more urgent but because I have annoyed them already so recently, they may toss me lower in the pile.  I would say I average just under 2 withdraws a week since I prefer to keep my balance as low as possible.

There is a 6-10 hour window every day during which only a skeleton staff is working, around 1 or 2 am untill 9 or 10 am.  Any cashout requested during this time are left untill managers return.  The same is true for almost any sunday.  Thet simply dont have anyone processing withdraws, you have to wait until someone comes into work monday morning (which is never a set time)

Also, their bet grading has slipped over the last 6 months or so.  It was at it's worst during the first half of the NFL.  Many times my bets fomr the 1pm game were graded as late as the second half of the 4pm game.  One could never hope to use winnings from a 1pm game to bet a 4pm game.

Theyve improved a bit, but still far too often a bet will remain ungraded for hours and support is no help.

I wish I'd found this thread sooner, as I've always just used Betcoin and Nitrogen.(no issues with nitrogen)

I've never really been a fan of Jetwin, but it's just personal preference I think on how it's laid out.

I've never even heard of BetBTC and overlooked BitcoinRush but will definitely be checking these out soon as well as others and report back if any issues. 
 (March is my christmas with NCAA and all)

With the way Betcoin has been behaving on the poker related side, and things in general on all fronts getting worse not better, Its time to say good bye for good to Betcoin I think.  I should of done it sooner, but you know how it is when you get used to a certain casino.

This is solid work though all around, thank you Peeps, from a gambler




 

[Peeps Place]

Hi,

In my opinion the exception given for "instant withdraws" to Betcoin is too generous.

I realize the potential fraud that peer to peer poker exposes them to, but it's gotten to the point that they are using it as an excuse to process players withdraws at their leisure.

There's no reason Betcoin can't consider cashouts made by non poker players seperately.  It should only take a minute to check and see if a player has played any poker or transfered funds to another player.

Nitrogen also offers poker, although less focused on it, and their withdraws are nearly always truly instant.

Less than a year ago, at Betcoin I was comfortable requesting an expedited withdraw by live chat and could expect the withdraw to be complete in 30-60 minutes. That was great. Now I always hesitate to even ask, as I worry the next time I may consider the withdraw even more urgent but because I have annoyed them already so recently, they may toss me lower in the pile.  I would say I average just under 2 withdraws a week since I prefer to keep my balance as low as possible.

There is a 6-10 hour window every day during which only a skeleton staff is working, around 1 or 2 am untill 9 or 10 am.  Any cashout requested during this time are left untill managers return.  The same is true for almost any sunday.  Thet simply dont have anyone processing withdraws, you have to wait until someone comes into work monday morning (which is never a set time)

Also, their bet grading has slipped over the last 6 months or so.  It was at it's worst during the first half of the NFL.  Many times my bets fomr the 1pm game were graded as late as the second half of the 4pm game.  One could never hope to use winnings from a 1pm game to bet a 4pm game.

Theyve improved a bit, but still far too often a bet will remain ungraded for hours and support is no help.

I wish I'd found this thread sooner, as I've always just used Betcoin and Nitrogen.(no issues with nitrogen)

I've never really been a fan of Jetwin, but it's just personal preference I think on how it's laid out.

I've never even heard of BetBTC and overlooked BitcoinRush but will definitely be checking these out soon as well as others and report back if any issues.  
 (March is my christmas with NCAA and all)

With the way Betcoin has been behaving on the poker related side, and things in general on all fronts getting worse not better, Its time to say good bye for good to Betcoin I think.  I should of done it sooner, but you know how it is when you get used to a certain casino.

This is solid work though all around, thank you Peeps, from a gambler




 

Thanks cryptosmoker. I'll contact Betcoin to see what they say. Your detailed post is appreciated. We need more of this on the books.

Gogo is a poster that has been very helpful in pointing out recent activity of books and we need as much as possible.

[cryptosmoker]

Hi,

In my opinion the exception given for "instant withdraws" to Betcoin is too generous.

I realize the potential fraud that peer to peer poker exposes them to, but it's gotten to the point that they are using it as an excuse to process players withdraws at their leisure.

There's no reason Betcoin can't consider cashouts made by non poker players seperately.  It should only take a minute to check and see if a player has played any poker or transfered funds to another player.

Nitrogen also offers poker, although less focused on it, and their withdraws are nearly always truly instant.

Less than a year ago, at Betcoin I was comfortable requesting an expedited withdraw by live chat and could expect the withdraw to be complete in 30-60 minutes. That was great. Now I always hesitate to even ask, as I worry the next time I may consider the withdraw even more urgent but because I have annoyed them already so recently, they may toss me lower in the pile.  I would say I average just under 2 withdraws a week since I prefer to keep my balance as low as possible.

There is a 6-10 hour window every day during which only a skeleton staff is working, around 1 or 2 am untill 9 or 10 am.  Any cashout requested during this time are left untill managers return.  The same is true for almost any sunday.  Thet simply dont have anyone processing withdraws, you have to wait until someone comes into work monday morning (which is never a set time)

Also, their bet grading has slipped over the last 6 months or so.  It was at it's worst during the first half of the NFL.  Many times my bets fomr the 1pm game were graded as late as the second half of the 4pm game.  One could never hope to use winnings from a 1pm game to bet a 4pm game.

Theyve improved a bit, but still far too often a bet will remain ungraded for hours and support is no help.

I wish I'd found this thread sooner, as I've always just used Betcoin and Nitrogen.(no issues with nitrogen)

I've never really been a fan of Jetwin, but it's just personal preference I think on how it's laid out.

I've never even heard of BetBTC and overlooked BitcoinRush but will definitely be checking these out soon as well as others and report back if any issues. 
 (March is my christmas with NCAA and all)

With the way Betcoin has been behaving on the poker related side, and things in general on all fronts getting worse not better, Its time to say good bye for good to Betcoin I think.  I should of done it sooner, but you know how it is when you get used to a certain casino.

This is solid work though all around, thank you Peeps, from a gambler




 

Thanks cryptosmoker. I'll contact Betcoin to see what they say.

They will say very nice things about themself I am sure