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January 18, 2017, 09:02:32 AM
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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)
jetwin.ps B  (2013)

"C" rated books
sportsbet.io C (2016)
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
cloudbet.com C-(2013)

"D" rated books
1x-bit.com D+ (2016)
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
powerbet.io D (2016)
directbet.eu D- (2014)




Exchanges
betbtc.co (2014)
fairlay.com (2014)
betmatch.is (2016

Prediction Markets
btcbet.us (2016)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)


"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

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January 19, 2017, 04:58:20 AM
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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)
Just want to let you know that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!


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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)
Just want to let you know that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!



My feeling is that the top 4 sportsbooks are safe to play at and there shouldn't be any problems getting paid sports bet winnings.

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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)
Just want to let you know that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!



My feeling is that the top 4 sportsbooks are safe to play at and there shouldn't be any problems getting paid sports bet winnings.
You should add that your betcoin.ag A- rating is your "personal feeling" and has nothing to do with the reality.

Even then, shilling and linking to a publicly proven scam is still a criminal offense!

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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)
Just want to let you know that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!



My feeling is that the top 4 sportsbooks are safe to play at and there shouldn't be any problems getting paid sports bet winnings.
You should add that your betcoin.ag A- rating is your "personal feeling" and has nothing to do with the reality.

Even then, shilling and linking to a publicly proven scam is still a criminal offense!

Betcoin.ag is a great sportsbook. This thread, with the help of poster contribution, has done well in exposing scam sportsbooks. To reiterate, the ratings are for the sportsbook only.

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"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)
Just want to let you know that promoting a publicly proven scam is a criminal offense!



My feeling is that the top 4 sportsbooks are safe to play at and there shouldn't be any problems getting paid sports bet winnings.
You should add that your betcoin.ag A- rating is your "personal feeling" and has nothing to do with the reality.

Even then, shilling and linking to a publicly proven scam is still a criminal offense!

The reality is that Betcoin.ag is a great sportsbook.

The reality is Betcoin.ag is run by people who have consistently run their site unethically for years.  Your rating system appears to take into consideration the fact that they have a poker room ( which excuses their slow payouts) and also has categories for "Bonuses", "Live Casino", "Poker" etc...

Your "I don't care if they fuck their poker and casino players" stance is nonsense and I hope nobody falls for it. 

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Add bitgame.online Small selection of soccer and NFL.

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January 23, 2017, 04:10:02 AM
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An unscrupulous sportsbook can vanish without a trace, taking all the funds with them and leaving its customers with little chance of recovering their money. Peeps Place at bitcointalk.org has tackled this problem with his outstanding rating system, taking into account the input of each sportsbooks’ customers as well as other variables to help determine a book’s quality.
So you have tackled the problem that unscrupulous sportsbook can vanish without a trace, with your outstanding rating system? Dare to explain how?

Do your homework: Betcoin.ag scam

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You might want to put Sportsbet.io in a D rated site to place bets on.
They freeze you from making withdraws when they just feel like it or when you have a substantial amount of bitcoins to withdraw.
You can read about it on my thread when i won more than 1 bitcoin in my account and had my withdrawal denied all the sudden when I just did 1 withdrawal previously of 60mbtc with in a time frame of 24 hours prior.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1738312.msg17590963#msg17590963

If that is unethical to do to a participant on a site that they place alot of bets on then I don't know what is.
They also are the same owners of bitcasino.io and several others under the same brand.
All from the same pile.



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You might want to put Sportsbet.io in a D rated site to place bets on.
They freeze you from making withdraws when they just feel like it or when you have a substantial amount of bitcoins to withdraw.
You can read about it on my thread when i won more than 1 bitcoin in my account and had my withdrawal denied all the sudden when I just did 1 withdrawal previously of 60mbtc with in a time frame of 24 hours prior.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1738312.msg17590963#msg17590963

If that is unethical to do to a participant on a site that they place alot of bets on then I don't know what is.
They also are the same owners of bitcasino.io and several others under the same brand.
All from the same pile.
Thanks for the information. It will definitely be looked into.

Do I have permission to ask sportsbet.io about your account? Books require it before they talk to a 3rd party.

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An unscrupulous sportsbook can vanish without a trace, taking all the funds with them and leaving its customers with little chance of recovering their money. Peeps Place at bitcointalk.org has tackled this problem with his outstanding rating system, taking into account the input of each sportsbooks’ customers as well as other variables to help determine a book’s quality.
So you have tackled the problem that unscrupulous sportsbook can vanish without a trace, with your outstanding rating system? Dare to explain how?

Do your homework: Betcoin.ag scam


A lot of rating's sites have Betcoin rated at the top or #1. Spotodds has Betcoin #1 and Nitrogen #2. http://www.spotodds.com/bookmakers-reviews/.

Nitrogen seems to be #1 and Betcoin #2 if taken as a conglomerate.


Here's the whole article that you referenced:

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Recent Betcoin Sports was ranked an A- and we will continue to improve Betcoin Sports and expect several upgrades over the next 4-6 weeks. The following was posted by Angelea Burris and the full link can be found below:


Who Are the Elite Bitcoin Sportsbooks in the World? Two Stand Out

As bitcoin enters the new year at near record highs, it is time to take another look at which bitcoin sportsbooks are still thriving. Bitcoin offers an ease of funding and withdrawal unseen to the U.S. gambling community since the days of Neteller. But with that ease, comes the danger of fly-by-night sportsbooks. An unscrupulous sportsbook can vanish without a trace, taking all the funds with them and leaving its customers with little chance of recovering their money. Peeps Place at bitcointalk.org has tackled this problem with his outstanding rating system, taking into account the input of each sportsbooks’ customers as well as other variables to help determine a book’s quality.

In his latest ratings, Nitrogen and Betcoin.ag remain the class of the bitcoin sportsbooks. In business for through the various booms and busts of bitcoin, both sportsbooks have shown the ability to withstand the vast changes that have occurred with bitcoin. Peeps Place entire ratings, as shown at Bitcointalk.org

“A” rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

http://news.rouletters.com/elitebitcoinsportsbooks-0003189.html
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January 23, 2017, 06:19:31 AM
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You might want to put Sportsbet.io in a D rated site to place bets on.
They freeze you from making withdraws when they just feel like it or when you have a substantial amount of bitcoins to withdraw.
You can read about it on my thread when i won more than 1 bitcoin in my account and had my withdrawal denied all the sudden when I just did 1 withdrawal previously of 60mbtc with in a time frame of 24 hours prior.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1738312.msg17590963#msg17590963

If that is unethical to do to a participant on a site that they place alot of bets on then I don't know what is.
They also are the same owners of bitcasino.io and several others under the same brand.
All from the same pile.
Thanks for the information. It will definitely be looked into.

Do I have permission to ask sportsbet.io about your account? Books require it before they talk to a 3rd party.
Go ahead. Cause I did everything that they asked for. Submitting my identification on their site to receive payment from what their support told me. I have that archived. But they base it on not knowing that there are several individuals who use the internet connection where I was staying at during that time period I was using their site. It was the freaking holidays for god's sake!
There are 25 people visiting and in the very same house hold. If half of them want to use the same internet connection on their devices then who am I to regulate who goes to which site on the connection?
That is their basis of not allowing me to withdraw within a 24 hour period of the last one that was successfully processed mind you only 60 mbtc and not the 429mbtc that I requested that was denied all the sudden because they saw the same connection come in just a week ago which was Christmas day for fucks sake. I have over 10 cousins and brothers that go on the internet and are wanting to use the same sites as the others use. They are sheep you know that want to go and do what the others are doing to "get into the action" so to speak.
It is wifi and it is secured so they do not have right to come up with excuses such as these that they have given me.
I have since asked them to close the account so I have nothing more to do with them.
If they argue with me on this or do anymore accusations on me with my internet activity using their site they asked me to send in my passport and proof of address which is illegal where I live! These companies do not have the right to give out any confidential information about their players and in closing my account none should be on their system and on their files about me.
You can ask them but all they can tell you is of what happened as I have just told to you right here.
Once closed it should be erased from them and their customer database. Which I highly doubt it either.



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You might want to put Sportsbet.io in a D rated site to place bets on.
They freeze you from making withdraws when they just feel like it or when you have a substantial amount of bitcoins to withdraw.
You can read about it on my thread when i won more than 1 bitcoin in my account and had my withdrawal denied all the sudden when I just did 1 withdrawal previously of 60mbtc with in a time frame of 24 hours prior.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1738312.msg17590963#msg17590963

If that is unethical to do to a participant on a site that they place alot of bets on then I don't know what is.
They also are the same owners of bitcasino.io and several others under the same brand.
All from the same pile.
Thanks for the information. It will definitely be looked into.

Do I have permission to ask sportsbet.io about your account? Books require it before they talk to a 3rd party.
Go ahead. Cause I did everything that they asked for. Submitting my identification on their site to receive payment from what their support told me. I have that archived. But they base it on not knowing that there are several individuals who use the internet connection where I was staying at during that time period I was using their site. It was the freaking holidays for god's sake!
There are 25 people visiting and in the very same house hold. If half of them want to use the same internet connection on their devices then who am I to regulate who goes to which site on the connection?
That is their basis of not allowing me to withdraw within a 24 hour period of the last one that was successfully processed mind you only 60 mbtc and not the 429mbtc that I requested that was denied all the sudden because they saw the same connection come in just a week ago which was Christmas day for fucks sake. I have over 10 cousins and brothers that go on the internet and are wanting to use the same sites as the others use. They are sheep you know that want to go and do what the others are doing to "get into the action" so to speak.
It is wifi and it is secured so they do not have right to come up with excuses such as these that they have given me.
I have since asked them to close the account so I have nothing more to do with them.
If they argue with me on this or do anymore accusations on me with my internet activity using their site I will sue them because they asked me to send in my passport and proof of address which is illegal where I live! These companies do not have the right to give out any confidential information about their players and in closing my account none should be on their system and on their files about me.
You can ask them but all they can tell you is of what happened as I have just told to you right here.
Once closed it should be erased from them and their customer database. Which I highly doubt it either.

PM sent. They have been good in the past in getting back so we should hear from them soon.

Pure bitcoin books should only ask for KYC information in rare circumstances. One reason for using these books is to remain anonymous.

If a book sees 10 accounts from the same IP, they should say something immediately. Don't free roll the player by accepting losses and not paying winners.

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January 23, 2017, 08:15:51 AM
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Sorry. I just meant to say that I understand. Sportsbet should contact me tomorrow. We'll see what they say.
I thought you were in talks with them right now. While you were online?

There is no more investigating to be done.
They have nothing to go back on.
Or they shouldn't. Because I told them to CLOSE my account with them and I do not have anything to do with them.

If they want to send me payment for what they owe me because I wouldn't have bet with it. I would of withdrawn that amount as soon as it was available but they refused it at that time making me wager it all away, since knowing I won't have access to it anyways because their support people are incompetent. And that truly is not my fault in the slightest.
If they can not do this then the posts will stay and I will never say it has been resolved. And that will tarnish their reputation on here as it has for Cloudbet (not directbet as you mentioned in the last pm to me).
They should learn of what happened to Cloudbet's mistakes on here that cost them their customer base.
That is going to happen to them as well and being only around for 5 months not like Cloudbet's 5 years, they will lose more than just 1.15btc from denying me that amount of my rightful winnings here.
They will lose their credibility as an honest sportsbook and their customers if I continue to publish this unresolved final issue that I have had with them.
Let me repeat to you: My account has been closed with them. And I have asked to them to close it. IF they are insisting on looking into it further and just using more stalling tactics then you know what the outcome of that will be. Angry

I just sent them a PM and I'm sure they will contact me tomorrow.

If you gambled the money and lost, then I can't help. If they locked money in your account and still owe you, then I'll help you get it.
If you read any of my posts about this situation then you know what happened and the account does not have any more funds in it and since was closed.
That is not the reasoning here.
They denied allowing me to be able to withdraw my funds when they were in there.
In knowing that they were going to lock them in there I used them up before allowing them to do so.
I told them to close the account. That was that!
But the grudge against this casino will be kept alive and will eventually cause them more damage then just that 1.15btc that I had the "opportunity" to have in my possession if they allowed me to withdraw them. You understanding what i am saying?
They did not allow me this even after the fact that I sent to them all the required documentation including my phone bill with my real address (which is not the same location as I created the account) and my passport which is my place of residence.
That is not the complaint here. They want to ruin their reputation even further then fine. I have accepted I won't get my owed funds back but they will not trick anymore members here into believing that they will pay them once they get a big enough amount in their accounts and they start asking for KYC documentation from them just so they can justify in denying them to withdraw their funds that are in their accounts and then deciding to just bet it all away instead of letting them go to waste since they are just "tokens" and not anything that they can cashout in the end.



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January 23, 2017, 07:59:27 PM
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You might want to put Sportsbet.io in a D rated site to place bets on.
They freeze you from making withdraws when they just feel like it or when you have a substantial amount of bitcoins to withdraw.
You can read about it on my thread when i won more than 1 bitcoin in my account and had my withdrawal denied all the sudden when I just did 1 withdrawal previously of 60mbtc with in a time frame of 24 hours prior.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1738312.msg17590963#msg17590963

If that is unethical to do to a participant on a site that they place alot of bets on then I don't know what is.
They also are the same owners of bitcasino.io and several others under the same brand.
All from the same pile.
I warn since summer 2016 about sportsbet.io Warning! SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io as the manager Timothy John Heath already embezzled player funds from Muchos Poker customers.

Thank you for your info, I will add it gladly to the SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io warning.

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January 23, 2017, 11:32:41 PM
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Lately I tried 1xbit and my overall satisfaction is positive. I like to play for specific bets, which they offer and other sportsbooks don't, so I tried playing with them. Betting options is very good. Site is problematic sometimes and doesn't load very quickly, it's hard to make parlays. Some games are only restricted for one single/parlay bet. Deposits are super fast, withdrawals are on time (2-10 minutes) for less than 1 BTC. D+ is fair rate.
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Lately I tried 1xbit and my overall satisfaction is positive. I like to play for specific bets, which they offer and other sportsbooks don't, so I tried playing with them. Betting options is very good. Site is problematic sometimes and doesn't load very quickly, it's hard to make parlays. Some games are only restricted for one single/parlay bet. Deposits are super fast, withdrawals are on time (2-10 minutes) for less than 1 BTC. D+ is fair rate.
Thanks for the feedback.

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Sportsbet.io will find their day infront of the courts for breaching the real purpose of collecting data of their players for their so called KYC practices:
Updated on March 16, 2016

This is the Privacy Policy of X Inc., which is referred to in this Privacy Policy, we or us. This Privacy Policy applies to information we collect from users of our website at x, our mobile apps, our blog, other online services, recipients of our emails, or when you otherwise interact with us. It describes the data that we collect about you, and how we use, share and protect this data.

Collecting and Using Data

We collect information that you provide to us, including:

    Your profile. Your name, email address, mobile phone number, government-issued photo identification, date of birth, physical address, such as when you create an account, complete your profile or submit a request for support;
    Information about transactions you complete using our services, including the amount of funds associated with a bitcoin transaction, the type of transaction executed, and other related information;
    Cookies. We use cookies on our website to collect data about your visit and to allow you to navigate from page to page without having to re-login each time, count visits, and see which areas and features of our website are popular. We do not link the information we store in cookies to any information you submit while on our website. We may also use the data collected via cookies to tailor advertisements to you and to track the popularity of our website. Our use of cookies and other technologies may allow us and third parties to collect information about your browsing activities over time and across different websites following your use of our services.
    Analytics. When you visit our website, we use third party analysis tools to collect data about your computer and Internet connection. That information includes the IP address of your computer and/or Internet service provider, when you access our website, the Internet address of websites from which you link to our website and from which you came before landing on our website, the browser that you are using, and your movements and preferences on our website. All of this information is used internally for the purpose of understanding how our website is being used and improving our website. We also use third party analysis tools to collect data about your use of our mobile apps. The information collected identifies the types and timing of actions you take within our mobile, including installation, registration, uploading, and certain types of navigating. All of this information is used internally for the purpose of understanding how our mobile apps are being used and improving them.

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If you wish to close your account altogether, please let us know by submitting a request to support@x.co.uk. We may retain information about you in our databases for as long as your account is active or as needed to provide you services and in accordance with applicable laws. Our retention and use of your information will be as necessary to comply with our legal obligations, resolve disputes, and enforce our agreements. The retention period may extend beyond the end of your relationship with us, but it will be only as long as it is necessary for us to have sufficient information to respond to any issues that may arise later. For example, we may need or be required to retain certain information to prevent fraudulent activity, protect ourselves against liability, permit us to pursue available remedies or limit any damages that we may sustain, or if we believe in good faith that a law, regulation, rule or guideline requires it.

It happened to google and it will happen to them.
They have no right to collect data no matter what part of the country they are in thinking they are fully protected and shielded from the law where they so called operate from.
They will find them selves taken to court for embezzling players funds.
Mark my words on this. This will happen to them!



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January 25, 2017, 04:03:08 AM
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2 questions:

1) Why do you have a support emailaddress listed in the sportsbook that returns all emails to sender? It's out of order!
2) Why is your maximum stake only 0.7BTC on all NBA game winner markets in livebetting (even during breaks), even to risk for 1,10 odds?
Why so low and can it be increased?
Yup, betcoin.ag is definetely A- rated. Roll Eyes

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January 25, 2017, 11:09:09 PM
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Peeps and Community,

We are proud to offer Super Bowl Squares for the Big Game: https://www.bitcoinrush.io/squares/

We are hosting 3 different Squares Pools, a Free Version where we will add 500 mBTC to the Prize Pool, and one paid version with a price per square of 5 mBTC, and another for 10 mBTC!

Many, Many, Props forthcoming over the next few days!


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