#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus

[sbrzol]

sbrzol - PM me your email address or account number. Whichever one that you use there.

There will be a lot of books that go under. You can't blame a rating's guide for the failure of every book "C" and "D" rated book. You should have taken it as a warning instead of blame. If an "A" or "B" rated site stiffs players, that's a different story.



Bitcoinlivebets was a top book at another rating's guide at bitcointalk and they were predicted to go under this thread.

As i said in the (original) betvip topic bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account and steal 30 BTC from me , I predicted that they will disappear,  nobody believed me, the review site assisted to bitcoinlivebets stealing ,  bitcoinlivebets odds was totally messed up

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312080.msg8164716#msg8164716

How can get a book (betvip) rate C if they have no withdrawal option on their page?  
Since when betvip has no withdrawal option on their page?
How long they have the issue with the deposits?  
Why does it took 8 hours to credit my account?  
Why did not they send back my deposit as i asked them 2 times 3 and 5 hours ago?

i think betvip has to answer my emails or send back my 1 BTC as i asked them.

Why should you (or anybody) contact them to ask the same thing like me to send back my 1 BTC?    I do not understand it.

[1714030220]

1714030220

[1714030220]

1714030220

[1714030220]

1714030220

[Peeps Place]

sbrzol - PM me your email address or account number. Whichever one that you use there.

There will be a lot of books that go under. You can't blame a rating's guide for the failure of every book "C" and "D" rated book. You should have taken it as a warning instead of blame. If an "A" or "B" rated site stiffs players, that's a different story.



Bitcoinlivebets was a top book at another rating's guide at bitcointalk and they were predicted to go under this thread.

As i said in the (original) betvip topic bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account and steal 30 BTC from me , I predicted that they will disappear,  nobody believed me, the review site assisted to bitcoinlivebets stealing ,  bitcoinlivebets odds was totally messed up

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312080.msg8164716#msg8164716

How can get a book (betvip) rate C if they have no withdrawal option on their page?  
Since when betvip has no withdrawal option on their page?
How long they have the issue with the deposits?  
Why does it took 8 hours to credit my account?  
Why did not they send back my deposit as i asked them 2 times 3 and 5 hours ago?

i think betvip has to answer my emails or send back my 1 BTC as i asked them.

Why should you (or anybody) contact them to ask the same thing like me to send back my 1 BTC?    I do not understand it.

They have a withdrawal page. Once again "C" books are not recommended and many will go under.

Send me your email address including permission to look into your account. Thanks

[sbrzol]

They have  NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

I just looked and they have a withdrawal page.

i have no withdrawal page , only deposit link , at "my account " there is only 3 data


Account Summary

Date Registered
 January 17, 2015 20:26 

Last Login
 February 28, 2015 23:03 

Current IP Address

[Peeps Place]

They have  NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

I just looked and they have a withdrawal page.

i have no withdrawal page , only deposit link , at "my account " there is only 3 data


Account Summary

Date Registered
 January 17, 2015 20:26 

Last Login
 February 28, 2015 23:03 

Current IP Address

If I go to "My Account" I get this on the left.

My Account
Deposit
My Betting History
My Account History
Withdrawal Wallets
Withdraw Funds

[Peeps Place]

sbrzol - I can't try to help without your permission. Please send email address and include that I have permission to look into your account. Thanks

edit- You are understandably upset but there is no way in the world to prevent "C" and "D" rated books from going under. You should know that as well as anyone.

PanAm was rated "A", or a top book depending on rating system, at all rating's sites and ran away with millions.

BetVIP is located in Europe so I wouldn't expect them to answer until tomorrow, if they do decide to answer.

[Peeps Place]

sbrzol

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

[sbrzol]

They have  NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

I just looked and they have a withdrawal page.

i have no withdrawal page , only deposit link , at "my account " there is only 3 data


Account Summary

Date Registered
 January 17, 2015 20:26 

Last Login
 February 28, 2015 23:03 

Current IP Address

If I go to "My Account" I get this on the left.

My Account
Deposit
My Betting History
My Account History
Withdrawal Wallets
Withdraw Funds

They put their account option list above the sport menu, same color same size etc,  so i never noticed it . It is my fault.

If they answered to my emails then probably i never claim that they have no withdrawal option , (I wrote them first , but they never replied. It is their fault.)

so now after 8 +4 hours they credited my account i will try to withdraw it

If you check original betvip topic you can see my earlier posts  (first i wrote email to them about this bug, but they never replied)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg10396253#msg10396253

Betvip never fixed this bug, they know about it more then 1 month, or they do not understand the issue. ( I had to explain it to them in my post)

They never thanked that i noticed them about it.

so betvip odds totally messed up like earlier bitcoinlivebets , and we know what happened to bitcoinlivebets  

so if i have to bet  which bitcoin sportsbook will disappear next it would be betvip  (rated at least C)

[sbrzol]

sbrzol

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

[Peeps Place]

You waited one hour and then claimed a book to be insolvent. You falsely accused them of not having a withdrawal page. You think that "C" rated books aren't going to go under even though it's not recommended to play there. Do I have this straight?

[Peeps Place]

sbrzol

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

Emails were sent to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.

[Peeps Place]

I don't think BetVIP saw what you posted.

Name:   BetVIP
Posts:   319
Activity:   319
Position:   Sr. Member
Date Registered:   February 25, 2014, 10:34:02 AM
Last Active:   February 27, 2015, 03:46:22 PM

[sbrzol]

You waited one hour and then claimed a book to be insolvent. You falsely accused them of not having a withdrawal page. You think that "C" rated books aren't going to go under. Do I have this straight?

again:   the betvip history :

they disapperared some day, first they claimed it was a DDOS, next day it was only an upgrade , it is very strange
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg10380595#msg10380595

totally messed odds:  never fixed
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg10396253#msg10396253

I follow their totally messed "odds" more then 1 month.

They asked the same thing 3 times and after they got it 3rd time they did nothing.


my history with other bitcoin sportsbook and review site
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044  bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312080  arbs/middles between bitcoinlivebets and other sites  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060    real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/2593238-bicoinlivetbets-stealing-all-my-winnings-30btc-3600-a.html
http://www.bookmakersforum.com/bookmakers/bitcoinlivebets-stealing-all-my-winnings-30btc-3600/264

i wrote (private) messages about this issue to all bitcoin sports books (at bitcointalkorg), but they do nothing and to top it all  bitcoincasinopro contribute to bitcoinlivebets
stealing.
http://bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitcoinlivebets-com/29-60-btc-complaint-against-bitcoinlivebets-com-unsubstantiated/

So i have the right to share my thoughts and warn everybody here if i see anything messy.  

You can be the next "bitcoincasinopro" if you want  just defend the messy sportsbooks ...

[Peeps Place]

I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.

I took Anonibet down for a couple of days until I looked into some complaints.

[sbrzol]

I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.

So to everybody : Do not share anything if you see something messy. (In my case it was at least 3 suspicious valid fact and unfortunately 1 false)  
Input do not wanted from anybody.  

[Peeps Place]

I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.

So to everybody : Do not share anything if you see something messy. (In my case it was at least 3 suspicious valid fact and unfortunately 1 false)  
Input do not wanted from anybody.  

You shouldn't blame the rating's guide for a "C" rated book when you falsely accuse the book of not having a withdrawal page and being insolvent after one hour.

This purpose of the thread is to post complaints and concerns but it's unfair to make false allegations.

[Gogo ppp]

sbrzol

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

I also sent emails to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.

"I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk."

I've seen this excuse from several of the books when they don't answer questions/problems in their threads for a long period of time.

Every book can easily set up email notification every time there is a post in their thread. The email could go to their cs.
This is very basic.
Every book that has their own thread in the "Gambling" subforum should take responsibility for "keeping an eye" on it.

[Peeps Place]

sbrzol

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

I also sent emails to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.

"I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk."

I've seen this excuse from several of the books when they don't answer questions/problems in their threads for a long period of time.

Every book can easily set up email notification every time there is a post in their thread. The email could go to their cs.
This is very basic.
Every book that has their own thread in the "Gambling" subforum should take responsibility for "keeping an eye" on it.

gogo- I always respect your opinion and hate to back books, but going to live chat and email are their priorities. The big books have a larger player base outside of bitcointalk. This may be a small percentage of their business.

It definitely is a bonus, a book such as Nitrogen is almost always around, but I don't think not being on bitcointalk 24/7 should be held against a book. Books may also have a presence at other forums.

Even the books that keep and eye here ask you to contact support when you have a problem.

[Gogo ppp]

sbrzol

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

I also sent emails to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.

"I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk."

I've seen this excuse from several of the books when they don't answer questions/problems in their threads for a long period of time.

Every book can easily set up email notification every time there is a post in their thread. The email could go to their cs.
This is very basic.
Every book that has their own thread in the "Gambling" subforum should take responsibility for "keeping an eye" on it.

gogo- I always respect your opinion and hate to back books, but going to live chat and email are their priorities. The big books have a larger player base outside of bitcointalk. This may be a small percentage of their business.

It definitely is a bonus, a book such as Nitrogen is almost always around, but I don't think not being on bitcointalk 24/7 should be held against a book. Books may also have a presence at other forums.

Even the books that keep and eye here ask you to contact support when you have a problem.

Yes, I basically agree with all you posted above.

What I'm suggesting is that every book that has a dedicated thread here should set up an email notification, sent to their cs department, every time someone posts in their thread.

I'd also suggest that every book with a dedicated thread here post in their signature their cs email address.
This would also come in handy if their (the sportsbook's) website is down - readers of their thread will know how to reach them via email.


EDIT - Again, to be clear, I am not referring to a complaint posted in this thread. I'm referring to issues posted in the sportsbook's dedicated thread in the Gambling forum (i.e., the CasinoBitco thread, the AnoniBet thread, etc.).

[Peeps Place]

sbrzol

if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent

It's irresponsible of you to threaten a book after waiting "ONE HOUR" and claiming them to be insolvent.

Very interesting that they replied all my emails within 15 minutes,  they had all information to credit my account , but they asked back 3 times, and after they got all information 3 times they (there was no other question they could ask again)  still did not credit my account,  only after i wrote into their topic

I also sent emails to Scott and Guy, two of the owners after I saw your complaint. I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk.

"I doubt they keep a constant eye on bitcointalk."

I've seen this excuse from several of the books when they don't answer questions/problems in their threads for a long period of time.

Every book can easily set up email notification every time there is a post in their thread. The email could go to their cs.
This is very basic.
Every book that has their own thread in the "Gambling" subforum should take responsibility for "keeping an eye" on it.

gogo- I always respect your opinion and hate to back books, but going to live chat and email are their priorities. The big books have a larger player base outside of bitcointalk. This may be a small percentage of their business.

It definitely is a bonus, a book such as Nitrogen is almost always around, but I don't think not being on bitcointalk 24/7 should be held against a book. Books may also have a presence at other forums.

Even the books that keep and eye here ask you to contact support when you have a problem.

Yes, I basically agree with all you posted above.

What I'm suggesting is that every book that has a dedicated thread here should set up an email notification, sent to their cs department, every time someone posts in their thread.

I'd also suggest that every book with a dedicated thread here post in their signature their cs email address.
This would also come in handy if their (the sportsbook's) website is down - readers of their thread will know how to reach them via email.

Great point.

[Peeps Place]

I didn't recommend BetVIP. I said what you did is totally irresponsible. I have no reason to back BetVIP and would be all over them if they hadn't paid you in a few days.

So to everybody : Do not share anything if you see something messy. (In my case it was at least 3 suspicious valid fact and unfortunately 1 false)  
Input do not wanted from anybody.  

You are the ONLY poster that I've ever criticized. Posters, including myself, posted many complaints against books. We need to see these complaints in order to judge books.

I'm not going to go around and around with you. If you have to justify in your mind what you did, then so be it. The one thing that is important to know is if you were paid or when you get paid.