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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion  (Read 226611 times)
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March 24, 2016, 09:01:01 PM
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gogo- That was back in 2014. A lot changes. I don't think DirectBet has a problem with this thread here and if they do, then they are free to speak up. I don't want to rehash what was said 2 years ago and only give my side of the argument.

Anonibet has a D+ rating here but a banner at peepsplace. Pure fiat players don't care as much about a delay of a day in payouts when payout times of 15 minutes are important here.

This thread, with the help of player input, has done a good job in warning players of books that are scams.

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March 24, 2016, 09:02:58 PM
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"A" rated books
NitrogenSports A+ (2012)

"B"rated books

Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Bitcoinrush B (2013)

"C" rated books)

DirectBet C+ (2014)
Betbtc C (2014)
Cloudbet C (2013)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books

Anonibet D+ (2011)
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

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altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betmbtc.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
BTCBook
Coin178.com
coinbet24.com
Flutterclub.com
gamebet.gg
lunarbets.eu
lvaction.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

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March 24, 2016, 09:18:32 PM
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We all aren't going to be in agreement of the ratings since it has to be tailored to each individual. Warnings were given about the following books prior to going under with player's funds:

Blockbet
Coinbet
Bit365
StakeBTC
Bitcoinlivebets

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March 24, 2016, 09:36:07 PM
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DirectBet uses the "back" odds from Betfair adding more take out. There is a minimum amount needed at Betfair for DirectBet to put up a line. Many times there aren't lines up on one side or both since lines are dependent upon lines at an exchange. The lines at DirectBet aren't competitive in American markets.

With deposit books when a bet is placed , the player gets notice if the bet is accepted or rejected in a short period of time. With DirectBet confirmation of accepting/rejecting a bet isn't made until the time the money leaves the players wallet until it reaches DirectBet's wallet.

Most of the time this is immediate but there is also the possibility of not knowing if a bet is accepted or rejected for an hour or more. While this hasn't happened for a while, months ago confirmations were delayed on a daily basis. Most of the time it was due to the site going up and down, but it can be from any delay in DirectBet receiving a bet after coins leaving the player's wallet.

DirectBet once had the advantage of being a non-deposit book but the advantage no longer exists with the speed in which deposits and withdrawals occur at other books. Some have instant deposit/withdrawals.

There is one case where DirectBet confiscated a player's bet along with his winnings. Depoits, wager in this case, should never be confiscated.

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March 25, 2016, 11:56:35 AM
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im not support anyone in this list i use all of this,

but somehow small issue with human error from the member (user) not from bookmakers report in this thread and make the site is downgrade thats funny.


like the case cloudbet who withdrawal to wrong valid bitcoin address. LOL if cloudbet make the refund so many ppl will claim that he had this issue too claim wrong withdrawal to his another address.

and this issue clearly human error from member. but i agree if u downgrade based on ddos slot cloudbet. LOL

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March 25, 2016, 05:37:42 PM
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These problems at Cloudbet are continuous. And many people don't know about the bitcointalk forums and don't post their problems in it. And some with problems email Cloudbet's (non-)support rather than post.
So one must assume there are many more issues than what appears in this forum.

Anyone depositing and betting here is  risking their funds imo.





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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino
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Guys, why are you treating me like this?Huh? I have a pending winning for more than 48 hours.. And I contacted you with more than 15 emails and still no one replied to me or helped me.. Why this attitude?? I'm very loyal to your website.. I need this BTC guys... Understand me.. I need to place bet on incoming gamesss... Stop treat me like this.. Reply to me and help me,,

My CLOUdBET account: helou.majd@hotmail.com






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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino
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yeah me too.. my bet still pending after 24hours,  i think admin and support get vacation on easter day??



The lack of cs makes me think the staff consists of the owner or owners. Perhaps 2 people trying to hold the place together.
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March 25, 2016, 06:31:56 PM
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Betcoin.tm

confusing pending/Open status

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1283187.msg14286362#msg14286362
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March 26, 2016, 12:48:42 AM
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im not support anyone in this list i use all of this,

but somehow small issue with human error from the member (user) not from bookmakers report in this thread and make the site is downgrade thats funny.


like the case cloudbet who withdrawal to wrong valid bitcoin address. LOL if cloudbet make the refund so many ppl will claim that he had this issue too claim wrong withdrawal to his another address.

and this issue clearly human error from member. but i agree if u downgrade based on ddos slot cloudbet. LOL

It's definitely not as you portray. The same problems have been continuous.

gogo is a respected member that has played with many of the books and his input is invaluable.

Cloudbet has also been in contact with me.

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March 27, 2016, 01:08:28 AM
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waiting 3+ hours for Betcoin.AG to grade a MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL GAME.

FUCK THEM.
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March 27, 2016, 11:57:52 PM
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Withdrawal times for me today:

Nitrogen 3 minutes

Jetwin instantly - perhaps 1 - 2 seconds
(It really seemed like about 0.5 second)
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March 30, 2016, 12:41:16 AM
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Update

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March 30, 2016, 05:37:11 AM
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Are you unable to see the issues going on at Betcoin.ag?

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March 31, 2016, 02:16:12 AM
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No delays for lunarbets.eu Smiley having fun betting for months Smiley Anybody here tried visiting this site? Smiley

The world's best bitcoin sports betting site! | https://www.lunarbets.eu/?r=karl
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March 31, 2016, 08:14:55 PM
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These problems at Cloudbet are continuous. And many people don't know about the bitcointalk forums and don't post their problems in it. And some with problems email Cloudbet's (non-)support rather than post.
So one must assume there are many more issues than what appears in this forum.

Anyone depositing and betting here is  risking their funds imo.





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Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino
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Guys, why are you treating me like this?Huh? I have a pending winning for more than 48 hours.. And I contacted you with more than 15 emails and still no one replied to me or helped me.. Why this attitude?? I'm very loyal to your website.. I need this BTC guys... Understand me.. I need to place bet on incoming gamesss... Stop treat me like this.. Reply to me and help me,,

My CLOUdBET account: helou.majd@hotmail.com






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yeah me too.. my bet still pending after 24hours,  i think admin and support get vacation on easter day??



The lack of cs makes me think the staff consists of the owner or owners. Perhaps 2 people trying to hold the place together.



cloudbet.com good site
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March 31, 2016, 08:33:56 PM
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5 Dimes has been accepting btc for deposits/withdrawals.

Anyone with an account there may want to only keep the minimum they can get by with - they're having legal problems with the USA.




If you haven't been following it, do a search for "5 Dimes - Amazon gift cards".

Calvin Ayre posted in his blog that they're having further problems (possible owners of the site located in the USA by the US LEO's, etc.).

Here's one of the articles:

http://calvinayre.com/2016/03/15/business/5dimes-use-amazon-gift-cards-to-fund-sportsbook-accounts-targeted-homeland-security/


I can vouch for their btc withdrawals currently still going smoothly. But who knows if there will be more repercussions from the US GOV's actions.

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March 31, 2016, 10:36:29 PM
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Are you unable to see the issues going on at Betcoin.ag?

I've noticed what's happening in the poker room although that's ignored for the ratings of sportsbooks. It seems that all is fine in the sportsbook.

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March 31, 2016, 10:41:39 PM
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Are you unable to see the issues going on at Betcoin.ag?

I've noticed what's happening in the poker room although that's ignored for the ratings of sportsbooks. It seems that all is fine in the sportsbook.

The part where scammers got hold of users login/email info in Jan and Betcoin is pretending it had nothing to do with them?

Also every weekend their chat is filled with people complaining about Bets not being graded and support being unavailable.

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March 31, 2016, 10:44:01 PM
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Are you unable to see the issues going on at Betcoin.ag?

I've noticed what's happening in the poker room although that's ignored for the ratings of sportsbooks. It seems that all is fine in the sportsbook.

The part where scammers got hold of users login/email info in Jan and Betcoin is pretending it had nothing to do with them?


Wasn't that phishing?

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March 31, 2016, 10:49:21 PM
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Are you unable to see the issues going on at Betcoin.ag?

I've noticed what's happening in the poker room although that's ignored for the ratings of sportsbooks. It seems that all is fine in the sportsbook.

The part where scammers got hold of users login/email info in Jan and Betcoin is pretending it had nothing to do with them?


Wasn't that phishing?

Yes.

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April 02, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
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Can someone update on Cloudbet payout, does this site still slow at payout?
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