#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus

[Supercrypt]

There's prolly gonna be.  We were quite surprised when FJ unrolled theirs.  I don't think there were even rumors they were gonna make one.  It just went online one day then FJ announced it was on without any hype.

Yeah exactly, hell I think they didn't even published it here at first, we didn't see anything on bitcointalk about their sportsbook feature at all, I think it was someone a regular gambler who saw it on fortunejacks facebook and than published it on bitcointalk that made us realize they opened it up, I didn't even realized they had it on their website because I wasn't looking for it, they didn't even had a marketing thing or a banner or a new design that highlighted their sportsbook neither.

All signs show that fortunejack doesn't really wanna make their sportsbook a big deal, one day they didn't had it and next day they did and they didn't even promoted it. We can safely assume that they do not want to focus on it and not become a sportsbook, just a casino that has that feature thats it.

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[MakeMoneyBtc]

I see everyone here is rating sportsbet.io as a D book and I try to figure that out. Is it because of their previous problems they had with big withdrawals? Because right now it seems like they are one of the best sportsbook existing offering best available for all kind of sports from multiple countries and they also offer instant withdrawals which not every sportsbook offer. So why is it rated as a D?

[Peeps Place]

I see everyone here is rating sportsbet.io as a D book and I try to figure that out. Is it because of their previous problems they had with big withdrawals? Because right now it seems like they are one of the best sportsbook existing offering best available for all kind of sports from multiple countries and they also offer instant withdrawals which not every sportsbook offer. So why is it rated as a D?

There was discussion here where sportsbet chimed in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3020 . I posted the following:

1. Margins - The margins (odds) at Sportsbet are very high. It's almost impossible for a player to overcome that type of hold with vanilla lines.

2. Self exclusion - When a player asks for self-exclusion, Sportsbet steers the player towards taking a temporary ban.

3. Areezy - Under no circumstances should a book be able to cancel a futures play. Areezy has given me permission to look into his account. If there is something that is missing, please PM.

4. KYC/AML - There are rare cases where KYC may be required. Sportsbet is heavy handed on KYC and confiscated 21.5 BTC form a player of which 15 BTC was from his deposit.

5. Double spend claims - Sportsbet should wait for 1 confirmation if they are going to confiscate funds for an "accused" double spend attempt.

6. Communication - A PM was sent to all books asking if they banned players from the UK or US. Every book replied within a day except Sportsbet.

[sportsbet.io]

Hi Peeps,

Im not sure what the go is with your post here.. I have already personally replied to all the listed points in this public forum previously. If there is anything else NEW that pops up, please let me know.
I'd be more than happy if you copy and paste my responses from before if you wish, but I won't be replying to this comment again on a monthly basis.


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[Peeps Place]

Hi Peeps,

Im not sure what the go is with your post here.. I have already personally replied to all the listed points in this public forum previously. If there is anything else NEW that pops up, please let me know.
I'd be more than happy if you copy and paste my responses from before if you wish, but I won't be replying to this comment again on a monthly basis.


If any urgent issues or request arise for anybody, please contact our 24/7/365  ( 366 next year ) Support.. we now cover over 15 languages and are continuing to invest in our customer 360-degree betting experience.

All the best guys and stay up to date with our daily and weekly promotions.. especially our Casino Spins promotions which I believe are the only casino spins in the industry with NO WAGERING REQUIREMENT to withdraw.

regards,

Steve,
Sportsbet.io

See our more active interaction on the bitcointalk forum here ( It also has most of our promotion summaries too! )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.4380

Hi Sportsbet,

I wasn't trying to hide your replies. I posted a link on where your answers started since there was more than one reply. Even though I'm in disagreement with what has been said, it's appreciated that you chime in.

[d1ceplayer]

I think that whole D thing is mainly due to the self exemption clause, they do not really let you go and if you win they just cancel your bet and if they win they just open up your account or keep it closed so they do it the way it works out best for them which is really not the way any sportsbook should go.

If a casino does anything even slightly shady they do get a bad grade here, for example there are sportsbooks at B and C levels that doesn't have any shady business, they are just not as good as the A ones and thats it, it could be timing of withdrawals, it could be bad odds it could be anything related to how it is run but not a shady business, the moment it moves to shady business practices they go down to D and even F, so sportsbet should be even happy about not being F to be honest.

[Peeps Place]

I think that whole D thing is mainly due to the self exemption clause, they do not really let you go and if you win they just cancel your bet and if they win they just open up your account or keep it closed so they do it the way it works out best for them which is really not the way any sportsbook should go.

If a casino does anything even slightly shady they do get a bad grade here, for example there are sportsbooks at B and C levels that doesn't have any shady business, they are just not as good as the A ones and thats it, it could be timing of withdrawals, it could be bad odds it could be anything related to how it is run but not a shady business, the moment it moves to shady business practices they go down to D and even F, so sportsbet should be even happy about not being F to be honest.

This is a very good summation of the grading process.

[EpicGord]

What about fortunejack..Why it is not included in ratings

[leea-1334]

What about fortunejack..Why it is not included in ratings

It is included under not rated, meaning people have to post their experiences here first,,, before a rating can be applied. Does this not make sense? Why not share your own experience with the book and then after a few people have given ratings, maybe OP can update to include it.

OP, does trust rating apply when people give their ratings? And if trust increases or lowers,,, does this have an effect? Random question:)

[Peeps Place]

What about fortunejack..Why it is not included in ratings

It is included under not rated, meaning people have to post their experiences here first,,, before a rating can be applied. Does this not make sense? Why not share your own experience with the book and then after a few people have given ratings, maybe OP can update to include it.

OP, does trust rating apply when people give their ratings? And if trust increases or lowers,,, does this have an effect? Random question:)

Poster experiences and input play a big role in the ratings. If there is negative trust, then that will be verified before affecting a rating. Books are questioned by PM prior to a rating being posted. They must also be receptive to answering questions on problems that posters may have with their book.

[StarofBTC]

I really don't think it really makes any difference that they posted some half-reply anywhere, it doesn't really matter as long as it doesn't solve any problems. D is a D because there is a reason to be, it is not a D because peeps somehow "hates" sportsbet, it has nothing to do with personal opinions, I would have put them at F if I could but peeps probably puts F only on places that literally steals peoples money and not pay them otherwise he keeps it at D.

Sportsbet has been known to be slow and not really community friendly, they have a billion things that is going wrong so far and the only reason they are not F right now is that we can all agree they do not steal peoples money (commonly at least) and still provide a service, that is the BARE MINIMUM required and they are doing that.

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[Peeps Place]

Reminder to keep your money in the top books this weekend. After the NCAA finals, Super Bowl and World Cup are the most popular times for problems to occur.

[d1ceplayer]

Yeah and the only reason for that is the fact that people tend to bet on the most guaranteed winners and they usually do win because they are the favorites which means the sportsbooks have to pay a lot of money to the winners and that usually is the day sportsbooks lose the most money, in those cases you see which sportsbook is actually decent or not.

Not that there won't be places that wouldn't even pay money to the winners (did happened just as recently as the NFL Superbowl and winners couldn't get their money back in some sportsbooks) but also sportsbooks all of a sudden start to ask for KYC and ask for ID and so forth to postpone payments as much as they can even months before they pay you so they could gather all that cash from other losers in between. Stick with nitrogen and so forth so you wouldn't get hurt.

[leea-1334]

It is included under not rated, meaning people have to post their experiences here first,,, before a rating can be applied. Does this not make sense? Why not share your own experience with the book and then after a few people have given ratings, maybe OP can update to include it.

OP, does trust rating apply when people give their ratings? And if trust increases or lowers,,, does this have an effect? Random question:)

Poster experiences and input play a big role in the ratings. If there is negative trust, then that will be verified before affecting a rating. Books are questioned by PM prior to a rating being posted. They must also be receptive to answering questions on problems that posters may have with their book.

Thank you for the reply. It is nice to know the ratings here are all counted against many factors. I think most of us in the gambling scene here are only normal and average people, no bad trust ratings and no good ones. The funny thing is that a lot of the people with opinions who are considered important,,, also have bad trust ratings.

Thank you for keeping an eye out for everyone!

[Peeps Place]

It is included under not rated, meaning people have to post their experiences here first,,, before a rating can be applied. Does this not make sense? Why not share your own experience with the book and then after a few people have given ratings, maybe OP can update to include it.

OP, does trust rating apply when people give their ratings? And if trust increases or lowers,,, does this have an effect? Random question:)

Poster experiences and input play a big role in the ratings. If there is negative trust, then that will be verified before affecting a rating. Books are questioned by PM prior to a rating being posted. They must also be receptive to answering questions on problems that posters may have with their book.

Thank you for the reply. It is nice to know the ratings here are all counted against many factors. I think most of us in the gambling scene here are only normal and average people, no bad trust ratings and no good ones. The funny thing is that a lot of the people with opinions who are considered important,,, also have bad trust ratings.

Thank you for keeping an eye out for everyone!

[domixer]

Hello,

I introduce myself, my name is Menahem.
I deposited on the site ~50 mBTC, I played before the confirmation and I won about ~321 mBTC.
So I waited for 3 confirmations before withdrawing my money.
Once the 3 confirmations are passed (after 30 minutes).
I'm trying to withdraw my money, but what's going on?
They refuse my withdrawal and ask me to contact support.
I contact the support and ask me to check my account.
I agree to check my account and I send all the documents they ask me (ID card, selfie...)
Once done after 20 hours of waiting, I receive an email telling me if I have a second account.
I tell them no, I only have one account because it's the truth.
They send me a message 2 hours later and say that I have created an account called "menahem911" and that it belongs to me.
And that according to their rules, If someone has 2 accounts, balances will be blocked and his account banned.
I still tell them that it is not my account that I have only one account called "carzobo".
After 24 hours, they tell me that my account "carzobo" and blocked and the money suspended for making double spend on an account named "menahem911" that does not even belong to me.
So at the end I find myself at 0.00 € without my base money and without my earnings.
Nice scam, I advise you to avoid sportsbet.io, at your own risk.

All Email message: https://pastebin.com/yjhRqeSD
Official thread about this scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129981

Cordially.

[Peeps Place]

Hello,

I introduce myself, my name is Menahem.
I deposited on the site ~50 mBTC, I played before the confirmation and I won about ~321 mBTC.
So I waited for 3 confirmations before withdrawing my money.
Once the 3 confirmations are passed (after 30 minutes).
I'm trying to withdraw my money, but what's going on?
They refuse my withdrawal and ask me to contact support.
I contact the support and ask me to check my account.
I agree to check my account and I send all the documents they ask me (ID card, selfie...)
Once done after 20 hours of waiting, I receive an email telling me if I have a second account.
I tell them no, I only have one account because it's the truth.
They send me a message 2 hours later and say that I have created an account called "menahem911" and that it belongs to me.
And that according to their rules, If someone has 2 accounts, balances will be blocked and his account banned.
I still tell them that it is not my account that I have only one account called "carzobo".
After 24 hours, they tell me that my account "carzobo" and blocked and the money suspended for making double spend on an account named "menahem911" that does not even belong to me.
So at the end I find myself at 0.00 € without my base money and without my earnings.
Nice scam, I advise you to avoid sportsbet.io, at your own risk.

All Email message: https://pastebin.com/yjhRqeSD
Official thread about this scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129981

Cordially.

Hi domixer,

Do I have permission to inquire about your account? If so, I'll contact sportsbet regarding this dispute.

[domixer]

Yes you have the permission.

[sportsbet.io]

Hello,

I introduce myself, my name is Menahem.
I deposited on the site ~50 mBTC, I played before the confirmation and I won about ~321 mBTC.
So I waited for 3 confirmations before withdrawing my money.
Once the 3 confirmations are passed (after 30 minutes).
I'm trying to withdraw my money, but what's going on?
They refuse my withdrawal and ask me to contact support.
I contact the support and ask me to check my account.
I agree to check my account and I send all the documents they ask me (ID card, selfie...)
Once done after 20 hours of waiting, I receive an email telling me if I have a second account.
I tell them no, I only have one account because it's the truth.
They send me a message 2 hours later and say that I have created an account called "menahem911" and that it belongs to me.
And that according to their rules, If someone has 2 accounts, balances will be blocked and his account banned.
I still tell them that it is not my account that I have only one account called "carzobo".
After 24 hours, they tell me that my account "carzobo" and blocked and the money suspended for making double spend on an account named "menahem911" that does not even belong to me.
So at the end I find myself at 0.00 € without my base money and without my earnings.
Nice scam, I advise you to avoid sportsbet.io, at your own risk.

All Email message: https://pastebin.com/yjhRqeSD
Official thread about this scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129981

Cordially.

Hi domixer,

Do I have permission to inquire about your account? If so, I'll contact sportsbet regarding this dispute.

Hi, request received and response given.

thanks all.
Steve, Sportsbet.io