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LtPaxIV
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September 12, 2014, 10:26:28 PM |
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i still done understand u could u pls try to explain what u mean in a little more proper english
u know that u can easily loose 2-3 times in a row playing 90% winning chance?
or do u just think its "fishy" that u hit 6k numbers in such a short timeframe/number of rolls
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BBmmBB
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September 12, 2014, 10:28:55 PM |
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i still done understand u could u pls try to explain what u mean in a little more proper english
u know that u can easily loose 2-3 times in a row playing 90% winning chance?
or do u just think its "fishy" that u hit 6k numbers in such a short timeframe/number of rolls
what are the chances of hitting that many 6000s and 20000s in such a short window? wtf :\ noob |
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flippy
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September 13, 2014, 01:52:55 AM |
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Their provably fair code checks out for me, so if you've verified your rolls and it's all good, then you were simply unlucky. Rigging a system like this is theoretically possible, but would require a great, unrealistic expense in time and today's hardware, especially if you've set your own client seed.
People tend only to notice odd patterns when they're losing. Try auto flat betting 0.00000001 on 2x payout 10k times and watch the bets - chances are that you'll see many long streaks of wins and losses and unusual patterns.
However, I do recommend that Edendice offers the option to choose to bet low/high. Without such an option, there will always be concern from some that the server seeds have been rigged to favour low numbers.
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BBmmBB
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September 13, 2014, 02:57:12 AM |
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Their provably fair code checks out for me, so if you've verified your rolls and it's all good, then you were simply unlucky. Rigging a system like this is theoretically possible, but would require a great, unrealistic expense in time and today's hardware, especially if you've set your own client seed.
People tend only to notice odd patterns when they're losing. Try auto flat betting 0.00000001 on 2x payout 10k times and watch the bets - chances are that you'll see many long streaks of wins and losses and unusual patterns.
However, I do recommend that Edendice offers the option to choose to bet low/high. Without such an option, there will always be concern from some that the server seeds have been rigged to favour low numbers.
you obviously do not recognize what i pointed out! :\ |
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flippy
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September 13, 2014, 03:29:53 AM |
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No, I understand what you're saying about the amount of similar rolls. It's possible that this is a side effect of the type of PRNG the site uses. However, if you have set your own client seed, then it's obvious from the way the provably fair system works that Eden could not deliberately rig the game to favour a particular range of numbers.
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September 13, 2014, 03:50:12 AM |
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No, I understand what you're saying about the amount of similar rolls. It's possible that this is a side effect of the type of PRNG the site uses. However, if you have set your own client seed, then it's obvious from the way the provably fair system works that Eden could not deliberately rig the game to favour a particular range of numbers.
you call being rigged "side effect" haha.. ya well , sure maybe if you set the seed for EVERY ROLL! ? :\ |
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flippy
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September 13, 2014, 04:34:38 AM |
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It's obvious that you don't understand the way the provably fair system works. The server seed is the same for every roll you make until you choose to change it. The client seed is up to you and can be changed without affecting the server seed, so as long as you change it once after generating a new server seed, Eden has no way of changing the future rolls based on it, and so there's no need to change it for every roll. The only thing which changes with every roll is the bet number, and as long as that is consistent, there is no tampering by Eden. It's unlikely that Eden is rigging this at all - the site would have made a much larger profit if they did  - but assuming that you do set your own client seed, it's practically impossible for Eden to rig it. In order to do so they would need to precompute server seeds which are skewed towards lower numbers for the majority of potential client seeds. There are far too many possible client seeds for that to be realistically possible to do for even a single server seed. |
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EdenDice (OP)
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September 13, 2014, 10:38:08 AM |
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I can understand with all of the scandal lately that people are more skeptical now than usual. Thank you LtPaxIV, flippy and Spoink for the vote of confidence. Their provably fair code checks out for me, so if you've verified your rolls and it's all good, then you were simply unlucky. Rigging a system like this is theoretically possible, but would require a great, unrealistic expense in time and today's hardware, especially if you've set your own client seed.
Verified provably fair then! However, I do recommend that Edendice offers the option to choose to bet low/high. Without such an option, there will always be concern from some that the server seeds have been rigged to favour low numbers.
Thank you for pointing this out. I do agree with you. I know people enjoy having the option to change high or low and will make players feel more comfortable. This and many more features will start to appear soon! |
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EdenDice (OP)
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September 13, 2014, 10:43:34 AM |
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So happy how's going this site!
Things are looking very positive! Thank you for asking FanEagle! VERY EXCITED about bringing everyone the new updates! Once I find out from our Developer what a realistic approximate date is I will update everyone here. I don't want to make any false promises.  |
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Clegg
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September 14, 2014, 01:47:37 PM |
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So happy how's going this site!
I don't want to make any false promises. Wise thing to do. People will only be dissapointed and complain when deadlines are missed so only announce it when you know it will be ready to launch by then. Good luck with the site, I like it. |
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guizai
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September 14, 2014, 03:04:20 PM |
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will be waiting for the new version |
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EdenDice (OP)
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September 17, 2014, 10:16:00 AM |
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So happy how's going this site!
I don't want to make any false promises. Wise thing to do. People will only be dissapointed and complain when deadlines are missed so only announce it when you know it will be ready to launch by then. Good luck with the site, I like it. My thoughts exactly! That is the plan. Thank you for the compliment! I am glad that you enjoy it!  |
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October 27, 2014, 10:26:20 AM |
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How much longer do we need to wait for Eden 2?
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dadaas
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November 12, 2014, 12:14:03 PM |
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I can't withdraw my money from your site. Is says "The requested amount exceeds the account balance." but I have entered less then I have.
And why did you put that max bet is 0.0005 BTC?
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BigGameCAsino
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Want A Personal Coin? PM ME!
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November 12, 2014, 02:08:44 PM |
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How many confirmations until I will receive the deposit?
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dadaas
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November 12, 2014, 09:25:00 PM |
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dadaas, we have sent you a PM. How many confirmations until I will receive the deposit?
Deposits will reflect in your account after 1 confirmation. Stay tuned for more news about Eden dice version 2. Everything is fine now |
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