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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170900 times)
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February 22, 2015, 07:53:43 AM
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Is anyone using Blago's miner with vista 64 / windows 7?

I have two pc's and have tried it on both, but if running on either one all the
system ram 16GB gets eaten up and then it crashes, I can only get it to run
for about 20-40 mins.

Any ideas?

I read somewhere that it could be due to drive caching, not directly the miner itself.
Runarufu miner works well without ram issues, but wanted to compare performance.



You plotted with too big of a stagger size and it's eating it all when you mine. If you optimize the drives they wont eat memory.

Also, how does Rurus performance compare?


only a side remark to information theory from my observer perspective without saying anyone does this currently.

if someone wants to leak data through unsensitive log files it is possible to code any information into regular looking log data.
without knowing the coding table it is impossible to detect that there is invisible information transfered.
for burst a really simple solution could be to use the blockheight as reference and then hide one byte of data within the additional information created for this block in the log.
a simple way would be to use 3 decimals on a percentage value which normally looks reliable for that block. this in combination with the blockheight and a secret coding table could transfer out almost any passphrase with log entries within less than a day of mining.
to hide it more you may split this between several number values or create a checksum based attempt.
in other words in crypto i personally can even not trust sourcecode i have personally reviewed (you may use a similar approach within sourcecode if you construct complex enough objects) but i have many coins and nothing happened so far.

Yeah that would be a cipher. It could be something as simple as spacing and there is no way of knowing.

I have nothing against Blago, but I'm pointing out what was happening. So far after switching to a pool I found two blocks the first day, four yesterday. Maybe there is something messed up with my wallet? I've tried using one on the network and then tried one on each machine and it didn't change anything while solo mining.
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February 22, 2015, 08:06:15 AM
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Is anyone using Blago's miner with vista 64 / windows 7?

I have two pc's and have tried it on both, but if running on either one all the
system ram 16GB gets eaten up and then it crashes, I can only get it to run
for about 20-40 mins.

Any ideas?

I read somewhere that it could be due to drive caching, not directly the miner itself.
Runarufu miner works well without ram issues, but wanted to compare performance.



You plotted with too big of a stagger size and it's eating it all when you mine. If you optimize the drives they wont eat memory.


Doesn't a plot optimizer make the stagger size as large as possible? Is there a tool that doesn't do this?
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February 22, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
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Is anyone using Blago's miner with vista 64 / windows 7?

I have two pc's and have tried it on both, but if running on either one all the
system ram 16GB gets eaten up and then it crashes, I can only get it to run
for about 20-40 mins.

Any ideas?

I read somewhere that it could be due to drive caching, not directly the miner itself.
Runarufu miner works well without ram issues, but wanted to compare performance.


Use EmptyStandbyList.exe but you will need to use the taskscheduler to run often.

PinballDude gives an good guide on this page: https://burstforum.com/index.php?threads/windows-mining-guide.14/page-4#post-2468

I've no problem with my win 7 boxes anymore with blago's miner.

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February 22, 2015, 08:54:09 AM
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win7 has a bad hd cache handling for burst.

i had the same issues. tried different solution with win7, non worked.
upgrade to win8 and your problems are solved.
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February 22, 2015, 04:21:49 PM
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2,100,000 BURST was sold on Tuesday last week at 135 sat... and coin bounced back as if nothing happened.. something else..

you will all do very very well, whoever took that amount of BURST at that price.. congratulations! I missed it I can not not sit in front of terminal 24/7

coin continuous to be very difficult to mine.. I don't know about you but network capacity has really slowed down the entire thing, meaning coin rewards , also block reward decrease should be happening soon, it is now requirement so to speak to have 200 Tera drives to make a dent.. although all depends on the price.. pools should initiate "bonus" rewards to decentralize this a bit.. just my opinion
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February 22, 2015, 04:28:58 PM
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2,100,000 BURST was sold on Tuesday last week at 135 sat... and coin bounced back as if nothing happened.. something else..

you will all do very very well, whoever took that amount of BURST at that price.. congratulations! I missed it I can not not sit in front of terminal 24/7

coin continuous to be very difficult to mine.. I don't know about you but network capacity has really slowed down the entire thing, meaning coin rewards , also block reward decrease should be happening soon, it is now requirement so to speak to have 200 Tera drives to make a dent.. although all depends on the price.. pools should initiate "bonus" rewards to decentralize this a bit.. just my opinion


Good point , mate , I got some small amount of it Smiley
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February 22, 2015, 04:32:41 PM
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2,100,000 BURST was sold on Tuesday last week at 135 sat... and coin bounced back as if nothing happened.. something else..

you will all do very very well, whoever took that amount of BURST at that price.. congratulations! I missed it I can not not sit in front of terminal 24/7

coin continuous to be very difficult to mine.. I don't know about you but network capacity has really slowed down the entire thing, meaning coin rewards , also block reward decrease should be happening soon, it is now requirement so to speak to have 200 Tera drives to make a dent.. although all depends on the price.. pools should initiate "bonus" rewards to decentralize this a bit.. just my opinion


Good point , mate , I got some small amount of it Smiley

I see you have Magi as well.. I made a substantial buy few weeks back.. because and it is a bit funny.. I did not know about their algorithm which punishes network hash rate.. soo.. I went on mining.. and ooopsy I see 1 coin per day as projection and my system is rather strong (CPU/GPU/RAM).. so I jumped on an exchange and I made a substantial buy..

I looked at Magi because as BURST , it combats "syndicate" of people mining at an insane rate... and blocking decentralization to an extent

this as well as Magi and BURST were featured on a conference together few weeks back..

the only thing.. that might be an issue (but lower block rewards will elevate this) if someone has access to massive free drives (DC's ) which at the rate of sale of > 2 million BURST only this would make sense
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February 22, 2015, 04:48:14 PM
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Nice comment , I follow BURST and XMG as well , they have real idea , algo , and value and at the right moment the market will explode Smiley
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February 22, 2015, 04:55:32 PM
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Nice comment , I follow BURST and XMG as well , they have real idea , algo , and value and at the right moment the market will explode Smiley

both are "protecting" investors interest long term.. seriously.. have a great weekend or whatever remains from it  

btw.. the ATM, or lottery or API's to and from BURST.. is really great it will be important to fuse with other systems later, fusion must occur for wider adaptation.. no coin will be "alone" I think..
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February 22, 2015, 05:34:45 PM
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Nice comment , I follow BURST and XMG as well , they have real idea , algo , and value and at the right moment the market will explode Smiley
burst is one of the altcoins which will survive for sure.
based on blockreward and coin settings you can say burst is currently in btc year 2010.
if you look at the btc history you know what this means  Cool

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February 22, 2015, 05:35:47 PM
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How much a burst-rig?
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February 22, 2015, 05:51:11 PM
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How much a burst-rig?

Sorry mate , but I didn't understand that question...
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February 22, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
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Is anyone using Blago's miner with vista 64 / windows 7?

I have two pc's and have tried it on both, but if running on either one all the
system ram 16GB gets eaten up and then it crashes, I can only get it to run
for about 20-40 mins.

Any ideas?

I read somewhere that it could be due to drive caching, not directly the miner itself.
Runarufu miner works well without ram issues, but wanted to compare performance.



You plotted with too big of a stagger size and it's eating it all when you mine. If you optimize the drives they wont eat memory.


Doesn't a plot optimizer make the stagger size as large as possible? Is there a tool that doesn't do this?

with CPU plotter and 16gb of ram you can plot with 50000 stagger...
it is enough!!!

and this,
without plot and then optimize!!!

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February 22, 2015, 06:12:23 PM
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Hello,

Is there any way to open the wallet without writing the secret passphrase ? Like in "read only" mode?
As each action on the wallet need passphrase, it should not be a problem, and better, prevent keylogger utilisation to steal passphrase when there is no reason to write it.

You can save your passphrase on email,or text file,and just copy/paste it Smiley
as i already posted some month ago exactly this (to have the passphrase in a clipboard) is what i dislike most with the burst wallet.
for regular mining activity checks i switched totally to burstcoin.eu and to check asset trades i use random passphrases to log into my wallet.
only to do transfers i copy my passphrase into the clipboard.
basically it should be possible to create a "read only" wallet by modifying the java code but it may be simpler to create a dedicated webpage querying the api for specific accounts. i started to work on a mysql blockchain copy with indexes and a different data model behind but stopped my work on it cause there happens so much development which i want to wait for to include it.
each time i thought i could continue and be safe for a while a new feature was integrated into burst.


Why use the clipboard at all?
Use LastPass manager and you can switch between wallets without even needing to copy/paste pass phrases.



Was any one paying attention to the DECENTRALIZED bit? Lastpass is far from decentralized....

Sure its centralized... but for daily activity it will ease the pain of having to use the clipboard.

Now... if your Lastapass password is anything less than 15-20 characters.... well, you deserve what you get.

I will NEVER ask for any kind of funds up front in a buy/sale of anything on bitcointalk.

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February 22, 2015, 06:28:26 PM
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Is anyone using Blago's miner with vista 64 / windows 7?

I have two pc's and have tried it on both, but if running on either one all the
system ram 16GB gets eaten up and then it crashes, I can only get it to run
for about 20-40 mins.

Any ideas?

I read somewhere that it could be due to drive caching, not directly the miner itself.
Runarufu miner works well without ram issues, but wanted to compare performance.



You plotted with too big of a stagger size and it's eating it all when you mine. If you optimize the drives they wont eat memory.


Doesn't a plot optimizer make the stagger size as large as possible? Is there a tool that doesn't do this?

with CPU plotter and 16gb of ram you can plot with 50000 stagger...
it is enough!!!

and this,
without plot and then optimize!!!

50000 stagger killed my RAM at 16 ... but network deadlines are so short now it does not matter someone is putting in Peta drives online at fairly consistent manner ... it does not pay off for an individual to invest in new drives

thinking of buying few hundred dollars worth BURST actually right now, but missed it on Tuesday big time
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February 22, 2015, 06:33:20 PM
Last edit: February 22, 2015, 06:54:59 PM by q327K091
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How much a burst-rig?

I say go online and search 6T drives they will be over 200$ so 200 T / 6 T is how many you need right now 33 drives > @200$ so that is just drives , you need RAM (for stagger) and somewhat stable (preferably Unix system) I say 10 grand all together, now.. you will be competing with people that have access to surplus and free hardware this is why you saw sell of > 2 million BURST and bargain price (killing myself over this.. because I would snatch the entire order)

@200T disk storage you will be lucky to collect several thousands of BURST a day Today (@10K $ investment this is rather funny right now) which would be fraction of your investment but you can not think short term

I say before the end of this year (much sooner probably) 10K $ investment to evaporate in terms of usefulness of hardware (disks maybe will be able to be reused or sold however people on ebay ain't stupid) watch ebay actually this year and search there for "used drives for sale" there will be hundreds this year but useless for BURST.. believe we will enter 20 Peta overall network capacity and much higher this year, coin production you will be lucky to get 1000 (that's a day) at very high disk storage capacity and then with block reduction it will be 100's  (a day as well) with further block reward reduction (10 a day will be what you will get, even at 300 or > tera drives, as people might be engaging large cloud farms in peta range which will probably the way to go in the future..) lucky thee that entered this coin 4 5 months ago.. also encrypt your wallets well my advice

I predicted bitcoin price, end of last beg this year , fall as far as my credentials are concerned
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February 22, 2015, 06:48:06 PM
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Is the blockchain somehow stuck? I saw that Urays pool had a deadline of 11mins, but the round didn't finish, it's 21mins now. Also my deadlines for this round are extremely high..

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Is the blockchain somehow stuck? I saw that Urays pool had a deadline of 11mins, but the round didn't finish, it's 21mins now. Also my deadlines for this round are extremely high..

no. we are in 13 Peta overall network capacity range. peeking at 15 .. coin production halted for many unless > 300 tera drives

completely normal behavior.. at the higher drive capacity (there is someone with > 1 Peta hardware doing this right now) people are engaging solo mining and take off blocks off the "market" so to speak. leaving you with 0 . sounds funny but it is the way it is
 
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February 22, 2015, 06:58:21 PM
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Is anyone using Blago's miner with vista 64 / windows 7?

I have two pc's and have tried it on both, but if running on either one all the
system ram 16GB gets eaten up and then it crashes, I can only get it to run
for about 20-40 mins.

Any ideas?

I read somewhere that it could be due to drive caching, not directly the miner itself.
Runarufu miner works well without ram issues, but wanted to compare performance.



You plotted with too big of a stagger size and it's eating it all when you mine. If you optimize the drives they wont eat memory.


Doesn't a plot optimizer make the stagger size as large as possible? Is there a tool that doesn't do this?

with CPU plotter and 16gb of ram you can plot with 50000 stagger...
it is enough!!!

and this,
without plot and then optimize!!!

50000 stagger killed my RAM at 16 ... but network deadlines are so short now it does not matter someone is putting in Peta drives online at fairly consistent manner ... it does not pay off for an individual to invest in new drives

thinking of buying few hundred dollars worth BURST actually right now, but missed it on Tuesday big time

i'm using win 7 64bit with 16gb ram and 17 4770...
no prob with CPU plotter and 50000 stagger size...

Code:
 Directory of I:\BURST_Miner\dcct\plots

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February 22, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
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Is anyone using Blago's miner with vista 64 / windows 7?

I have two pc's and have tried it on both, but if running on either one all the
system ram 16GB gets eaten up and then it crashes, I can only get it to run
for about 20-40 mins.

Any ideas?

I read somewhere that it could be due to drive caching, not directly the miner itself.
Runarufu miner works well without ram issues, but wanted to compare performance.



You plotted with too big of a stagger size and it's eating it all when you mine. If you optimize the drives they wont eat memory.


Doesn't a plot optimizer make the stagger size as large as possible? Is there a tool that doesn't do this?

with CPU plotter and 16gb of ram you can plot with 50000 stagger...
it is enough!!!

and this,
without plot and then optimize!!!

50000 stagger killed my RAM at 16 ... but network deadlines are so short now it does not matter someone is putting in Peta drives online at fairly consistent manner ... it does not pay off for an individual to invest in new drives

thinking of buying few hundred dollars worth BURST actually right now, but missed it on Tuesday big time

i'm using win 7 64bit with 16gb ram and 17 4770...
no prob with CPU plotter and 50000 stagger size...

Code:
 Directory of I:\BURST_Miner\dcct\plots

22/02/2015  19:57    <DIR>          .
22/02/2015  19:57    <DIR>          ..
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could be I was using GPU plot miner.. I simply had to act fast that was 2 months ago. now it really does not matter

it is like with VIA (no plug here) I mined VIA to a point and suddenly they merged mined with LTC and game over.. before that happened I bought great amount of that coin.. knowing kind of in advance this will happen (just by studying who is developing for that coin)

same here, stagger size is becoming meaningless, I mean it still could get you block faster (maybe) but it will be less and less
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