[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[fabula]

nice work

[iscal]

So, I've actually decided to stop working on the paper and break up it into pieces and write it up as a blog post.

But the paper has come so far.. so if anyone is interested, you are welcome to read it:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13jG3F7uajhSsyT9GXDX86izmlBMf567_PbyOhUr_HGw/edit?usp=sharing

Warning, it's pretty long and in depth.. but I think I've made some interesting discoveries in analyzing Proof of Capacity and shown that it has a lot of potential.

If anyone has comments, let me know as my blog posts are going to largely be similar information and arguments.

I've started writing blog posts based on it.. not sure when that'll be ready to go.  Plus, someone has to create the blog first.

excellent work

[mmmaybe]

So, I've actually decided to stop working on the paper and break up it into pieces and write it up as a blog post.

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Check out Slack and play with the new toys

[yellowduck2]

So, I've actually decided to stop working on the paper and break up it into pieces and write it up as a blog post.

But the paper has come so far.. so if anyone is interested, you are welcome to read it:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13jG3F7uajhSsyT9GXDX86izmlBMf567_PbyOhUr_HGw/edit?usp=sharing

Warning, it's pretty long and in depth.. but I think I've made some interesting discoveries in analyzing Proof of Capacity and shown that it has a lot of potential.

If anyone has comments, let me know as my blog posts are going to largely be similar information and arguments.

I've started writing blog posts based on it.. not sure when that'll be ready to go.  Plus, someone has to create the blog first.

Well done!

[mczarnek]

Thanks guys.. anyway for those who see the current prices and are doubting.. just know that big things are happening in the background.  There are a couple really interesting projects that I'm only keeping quiet so that our competitors don't take them and run with them first for example.  And that paper will be broken into smaller, easier to digest pieces and used to try to lure in some new developers and marketers.. and eventually customers.

And if you are doubting and saying Burst is unfortunately a pump and dump coin.. do something about it!  Write up a post for our upcoming blog about why you see potential in Burst for example.  Or contact some exchanges asking to be listed.  Or call up a college and ask if they are interested in letting their students work for us (they will be trained! Some java experience is the only thing I'd expect) in exchange for college credit. Or work with us to see if we can get some venture capital funding for this coin.

For example, Hedgy just got $1.5 million to get smart contracts working... something we already have working!!  We could do a lot with a million dollars in funding.

Or come up with your own idea for helping this coin succeed!

[ashfaq]

so we just need to connect an external HADR DRVIE through USB and the computer starts mining burstcoins ?i mean i am having some 1 TB used hard drives which i can use ....thanxxxx

[bobafett]

so we just need to connect an external HADR DRVIE through USB and the computer starts mining burstcoins ?i mean i am having some 1 TB used hard drives which i can use ....thanxxxx

read the guides: http://wiki.burstcoin.de/index.php?title=Guides

[Merick]

so we just need to connect an external HADR DRVIE through USB and the computer starts mining burstcoins ?i mean i am having some 1 TB used hard drives which i can use ....thanxxxx

read the guides: http://wiki.burstcoin.de/index.php?title=Guides

http://burstcoin.info/guides/

[crowetic]

BOUNTY!

Pool UI development/designer! (You will have to ask catbref ((pool developer)) what you will need to know in order do do this, but I know CSS is a must!)

I will offer 150k BURST from my own wallet, 150k BURST from ByteEnterprises wallet, and 2500 shares of ByteEnt asset (pays dividends monthly based off mining and the pool fee from ninja pool. Represents 2.5% of Byte Enterprises as a company.)

This is a fairly large bounty because it will be a fairly large amount of work. You can also talk to the other people who work with me and ask them how fair I am when it comes to paying people. I may throw you an extra bonus because I feel you did something extraordinary! Come be part of the Byte Enterprises team!

Thank you!

I'll add 150K to this of my own money (and I'm not part of the Byte Enterprises team nor even mining at ninja).

Crowe, if you can, post this as a separate thread so you might attract people outside the BURST community.


(i'll be back soon)

+50k  from me for your pool upgrade send me your account

Just making the quote correct we are with you, bro!

PEOPLE SUPORT PR TEAM AND STOP DUMP TO BUY PIZZAS
+50 k from me to Crowetic for the fantastic job (when send me bounty account)
(sorry for my english i m SPARTAN......)  

Bounty wallet address - BURST-CSPG-BPBU-R985-2YC33

Thank you all so much!

both my donations have been sent. http://burstcoin.eu/address/37539858111357614

Sent 150K, and I might consider mining there if the UI is decent 

+50K ....

This is still awaiting someone to jump on it... The funds are sitting there waiting, there's a decent amount there, and including assets in my company that will payout for a long time to come...

PLEASE HELP!

[mczarnek]

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

[Erkallys]

I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

[bensam1231]

Not sure if you guys remember when I mentioned not finding many blocks while solo vs pool mining. There is still something weird about solo mining. I've been mining on pools and mining solo off and on. Whenever I go solo, the amount of blocks I find is about 50-60% of what I'm supposed to. I'm not talking about what the pool pays me, rather the amount of blocks I find while on the pool. This isn't just luck, I've been mining for quite some time and have quite a few data points built up.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but mining solo decreases the number of blocks I find quite a bit. I'm not sure why or how.

when you are soloing, you are running the wallet yourself.

i think, when you are pool mining, the wallet is running on the pool server.

the big difference here is if your clock is off 10 or 20 or 30 seconds.  That will loose you a lot of blocks.

check your computer clock to the second, if it is more than a few seconds off, install "NetTime" or a similar product, and have it update your clock often enough that you never get a time off more than a second or two.

both windows 7 and windows 10 have built in internet synchronization, but they sync too infrequently, and are pretty bad at handling congestion and servers that are down, to be of any use for keeping the time within needed bounds for burst mining.


Some pools favor certain total plot sizes. If you are mining at a pool that favors close to what total plot size you have, you might end up getting more burst than you would solo mining.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Obviously it's some sort of problem with the wallet. I've been using nettime for quite some time though, so it's not a time problem. It syncs every four hours.

I've also noticed when mining solo I get less 'Winner: no info yet' for the winner in the deadline compared to when I'm mining on the pool. There is some sort latency issue happening there that I'm not entirely sure where it's coming from and I think is what is messing up my blocks.

Switched back to a pool and immediately started finding blocks at regular intervals again. Really weird.

Yeah, I don't know what this is guys. I really could use some help with this. I've been mining for close to three months on burst and every time I try to solo mine I am unable to find nearly as many blocks as mining on a pool. I've tried hosting the wallet on multiple machines and it still does it. What's causing this to happen? This simply can't be luck. I mentioned this before and exactly the same behavior was happening back then.

I go solo and I find 50-60% of the amount of blocks I should. It's like my wallet doesn't submit deadlines right away or the chain doesn't see them. I already have all my clocks syncing every 4 hours.

[Kartojal]

I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

You need SATA2/3 or USB 3.0 for mining BURST.  USB 2.0 its too slow for reading(mine) the plots! Check another ARM board with USB 3.0 or SATA port, the cheapest i think is Banana Pi with one SATA. I recommend for mining in linux use their filesystem (ext3 or ext4) not NTFS (Windows) because gnu/linux programs dont like the NTFS system, it will be more slow and its probable to corrupt the plots or have any strange errors...

You can always use a LIVE CD like Ubuntu 14.04, download the plotter, and plot to external devices formatted in EXT4, then connect it to the ARM board

[bubble83]

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

[callmejack]

I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

You need SATA2/3 or USB 3.0 for mining BURST.  USB 2.0 its too slow for reading(mine) the plots! Check another ARM board with USB 3.0 or SATA port, the cheapest i think is Banana Pi with one SATA. I recommend for mining in linux use their filesystem (ext3 or ext4) not NTFS (Windows) because gnu/linux programs dont like the NTFS system, it will be more slow and its probable to corrupt the plots or have any strange errors...

You can always use a LIVE CD like Ubuntu 14.04, download the plotter, and plot to external devices formatted in EXT4, then connect it to the ARM board

the pi2 may have better cpu performance than the banana pi which i estimated to be able to mine with 8tb within blocktime (tested with 4tb on a sata port multiplier some time ago).

based on usb benchmarks i assume the pi2 should be able to read at 20-25 mb/s on usb2 (http://www.mikronauts.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-2-usb-hard-drive-and-adapter-tests/).

i am not sure if concurrent traffic on different disks decreases the overall performance dramatically.
if you can read at speeds of 10 mb/s from 2 disks (which is a really low estimate) you should be able to mine with at least 8tb within blocktime.

if you plan a small farm try some usb-c hubs as power supply for the pis (makes the wiring simpler).

the tricky part for windows people is the plotting process because windows cannot write xfs or other linux filesystems out of the box.
workarounds would be virtual machines with direct disk access and provide windows the device as network share.
this is a simple solution but requires some basic linux knowledge.

if you have your disks plotted and a system running its almost one of the most scalable and cheapest solutions.

[Erkallys]

I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

You need SATA2/3 or USB 3.0 for mining BURST.  USB 2.0 its too slow for reading(mine) the plots! Check another ARM board with USB 3.0 or SATA port, the cheapest i think is Banana Pi with one SATA. I recommend for mining in linux use their filesystem (ext3 or ext4) not NTFS (Windows) because gnu/linux programs dont like the NTFS system, it will be more slow and its probable to corrupt the plots or have any strange errors...

You can always use a LIVE CD like Ubuntu 14.04, download the plotter, and plot to external devices formatted in EXT4, then connect it to the ARM board

the pi2 may have better cpu performance than the banana pi which i estimated to be able to mine with 8tb within blocktime (tested with 4tb on a sata port multiplier some time ago).

based on usb benchmarks i assume the pi2 should be able to read at 20-25 mb/s on usb2 (http://www.mikronauts.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-2-usb-hard-drive-and-adapter-tests/).

i am not sure if concurrent traffic on different disks decreases the overall performance dramatically.
if you can read at speeds of 10 mb/s from 2 disks (which is a really low estimate) you should be able to mine with at least 8tb within blocktime.

if you plan a small farm try some usb-c hubs as power supply for the pis (makes the wiring simpler).

the tricky part for windows people is the plotting process because windows cannot write xfs or other linux filesystems out of the box.
workarounds would be virtual machines with direct disk access and provide windows the device as network share.
this is a simple solution but requires some basic linux knowledge.

if you have your disks plotted and a system running its almost one of the most scalable and cheapest solutions.

The Banana Pi looks interesting. But if I go to internal HDD, I need to have a desktop. What is the component recommended (how much GB of RAM, how much thread on the CPU, CPU model) ?
About the disks does this one (http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00144841.html) is good ?

[mczarnek]

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

So what if you call it a different coin? It's important for new clients to be able to trustlessly know they are on the correct blockchain. How can they do that in a Pure POS system?  I guess it's possible in a peercoin like system.

Though even there it's a much cheaper 51% attack on the POW pay of the system, only to end up with the same issue.  I guess that's why Ethereum is including a small POW for every transaction.. Though that doesn't really fix this specific issue either..

[callmejack]

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

So what if you call it a different coin? It's important for new clients to be able to trustlessly know they are on the correct blockchain. How can they do that in a Pure POS system?  I guess it's possible in a peercoin like system.

you can do it if the transaction itself contains everything required to verify it is valid.
in other words this means there is no need for a blockchain recording everything from a genesis block over checkpoints onwards since the receiver can verify the transaction on its own.
if you would like to have a blockchain in such a design for storing non transaction related information you can add one.
maybe for something like aliases, storage, ATs or a message system.
the main difference to current coins would be that you dont have any history of other peoples transactions except for those you received coins with.
 

[mczarnek]

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

So what if you call it a different coin? It's important for new clients to be able to trustlessly know they are on the correct blockchain. How can they do that in a Pure POS system?  I guess it's possible in a peercoin like system.

you can do it if the transaction itself contains everything required to verify it is valid.
in other words this means there is no need for a blockchain recording everything from a genesis block over checkpoints onwards since the receiver can verify the transaction on its own.
if you would like to have a blockchain in such a design for storing non transaction related information you can add one.
maybe for something like aliases, storage, ATs or a message system.
the main difference to current coins would be that you dont have any history of other peoples transactions except for those you received coins with.
 

That would definitely help, you couldn't use someone else's transactions in your coin that had a new genesis block that have you lots of money but it still doesn't solve the problem of trustees knowing you have the correct genesis block and it isn't a blockchain full of garbage data.

[Grim]

[miner]

new version Burst-miner v1.150509
https://github.com/Blagodarenko/miner-burst/releases/download/1.150509/miner-burst-1.150509.zip

- solved memory usage issue
- parameter "UseCleanMem" did not used
- key "q" - quit/exit
- key "m" - memory cleaner
- new lib pdcurses.dll

limits:
Nonces, stagger and CacheSize must be a multiple of HDD's sector size / 64 ( 4096 by default / 64 = 64 ).
Miner's window not resizing and not scrolling.



https://github.com/Blagodarenko/miner-burst

Tiny bug:

If you use the proxy feature, the host reports the total GB's incorrect if you have more than one satelite.
It is just a cosmetic issue though, because deadlines are accepted from every satelite.