[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[Elmit]

There's a 2.8M BURST bounty for a coin mixer in burst. Out of which 1M is my contribution.
I figure it would take at least 10M to be of interest to a coder, maybe you guys wanna add to this bounty, instead of holding on to the coin forever

Organize or program it by yourself with support of AT Crowdfunding.
Crowdfunding is a nice feature, unfortunately still not in the wallet implemented. You need to add this feature by yourself.

The benefit of AT Crowdfunding is, that if you do NOT reach the goal (10 mil), then all Bursts will be returned. 2.8 million was pledged in a few minutes. I am sure that 10 million would take not longer than 2 weeks to achieve.

[callmejack]

There's a 2.8M BURST bounty for a coin mixer in burst. Out of which 1M is my contribution.
I figure it would take at least 10M to be of interest to a coder, maybe you guys wanna add to this bounty, instead of holding on to the coin forever

do you mean some sort of AT which you create and it distributes the coins to at creation time defined accounts to hide traces?

from design perspective this sounds really interesting but i think  a major design flaw for any concept may become that there always will be an endpoint which receives the funds.
since everything has to be visible to the blockchain i assume we need more certain features in the burst core to enable this in a really anonymous way.

i think of some sort of integrated asset within burst which someone who wants to mix can buy.
as soon as you buy this "asset" you receive a encrypted message from the "blockchain" with a key you enter offchain into the "fresh" wallet you want to mix with.
since every wallet would be able to generate such tokens i am not sure wether this is a good idea (the key may get compromised by grabbing it from the jre memory).
if this can be protected securely this design leaves no traces caused by transactions which relate to your account (maybe except corresponding timestamps - you bought 5 mixes and 2 blocks later someone enters 5 keys).
with trusted offchain services such approach is not too complex to realize but we all want this on chain  

currently the best way to "mix" coins is to pool mine a few burst and to issue an asset which several accounts buy and/or transfer.
but as said before every transaction is visible to the blockchain.

i currently extend my mysql backend to trace all miner exchange transfers and can say it is really intersting to see how people deposit and withdraw to exchanges  

miner: BURST-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX exchanged: -4262006 blocks: XXX fees: 13900 rewards: 4514522 lastblock: 103XXX polo_sell: 980937.0000 trex_sell: 10.0000 ccex_sell: 3281059.0000 polo_buy:  trex_buy:  ccex_buy:

[mmmaybe]

There's a 2.8M BURST bounty for a coin mixer in burst. Out of which 1M is my contribution.
I figure it would take at least 10M to be of interest to a coder, maybe you guys wanna add to this bounty, instead of holding on to the coin forever

vbcs said he will do that:

I will start working on mixer AT which will provide a "layer of anonymity" after the ACCT takes place between BURST and QORA.
Qora with AT inside will be enabled at block 99000, which will be probably in 2-4 days. 

[burstFTW]

Hi all. I have been burst mining for a few weeks now with a few TB of HDD space. I have a Samsung Chromebook that I have crouton installed on to run a full Linux desktop on it. I am curious if there is a Linux Burst miner that can be compiled on the ARM architecture. I would like to mine on the Chromebook so that my laptop will be portable again. Thanks in advance.

[Elmit]

There's a 2.8M BURST bounty for a coin mixer in burst. Out of which 1M is my contribution.
I figure it would take at least 10M to be of interest to a coder, maybe you guys wanna add to this bounty, instead of holding on to the coin forever

do you mean some sort of AT which you create and it distributes the coins to at creation time defined accounts to hide traces?

from design perspective this sounds really interesting but i think  a major design flaw for any concept may become that there always will be an endpoint which receives the funds.
since everything has to be visible to the blockchain i assume we need more certain features in the burst core to enable this in a really anonymous way.

i think of some sort of integrated asset within burst which someone who wants to mix can buy.
as soon as you buy this "asset" you receive a encrypted message from the "blockchain" with a key you enter offchain into the "fresh" wallet you want to mix with.
since every wallet would be able to generate such tokens i am not sure wether this is a good idea (the key may get compromised by grabbing it from the jre memory).
if this can be protected securely this design leaves no traces caused by transactions which relate to your account (maybe except corresponding timestamps - you bought 5 mixes and 2 blocks later someone enters 5 keys).
with trusted offchain services such approach is not too complex to realize but we all want this on chain  

currently the best way to "mix" coins is to pool mine a few burst and to issue an asset which several accounts buy and/or transfer.
but as said before every transaction is visible to the blockchain.

i currently extend my mysql backend to trace all miner exchange transfers and can say it is really intersting to see how people deposit and withdraw to exchanges  

miner: BURST-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX exchanged: -4262006 blocks: XXX fees: 13900 rewards: 4514522 lastblock: 103XXX polo_sell: 980937.0000 trex_sell: 10.0000 ccex_sell: 3281059.0000 polo_buy:  trex_buy:  ccex_buy:

Nice program, ... we can use to verify that the mixer works, lol!

The "design flaw" appears only if you stay in one dimension (BURST), but if you use multiple currencies, time differences, multiple output addresses/currencies and a LOTS of users, you would not find a thing anymore. In addition you could add arbitrage trading within the mixer and you have really no chance anymore to find something out

[Elmit]

What is with the Bananapi project?
In my opinion if you do not have a lots of hard disk space to mine, a normal Raspberry PI 2 with USB 2.0 would be sufficient!
Even you use multiple Raspberry with each one 15 TB would be a cheap solution.

[mmmaybe]

There is a 20+ man strong PR team. I have not found a single item from them on my own, only what they posted here. That shows clearly that it failed.
I did however found from Boba in Germany a lots of information, which came back to me via my friends living there. He seems the only one really DOING something to promote Burst. - Thanks Boba!

This is my last post in this thread. I agree with Elmit's first part of the cited post. The PR Team has evidently failed to promote BURST in a proper way. However, that doesn't mean we haven't worked hard, did our best and put in the hours required. That we have done (more than Boba who joined rather later but who done a great job).


So why have we failed...? I think there are a numbers of reason that I'll bring up. It might not be the truth, it certainly isn't complete, but perhaps will this post start a constructive discussion of what have gone wrong, the strengths BURST indeed has and all the things achieved, so you as a collective will to find the correct way forward. And, yes, I'm pretentious.   Some of the reason according to me:


he wrong
1) Bad leadership in the PR Team, mainly due to we (I) aimed way too high with bad time schedule. Too many projects were started at about the same time, with many new people joining the group. I realize that I'm highly responsible for this failure, as I for for awhile had some kind of a "leader role" regarding the PR work.


2) Lack of funding. I used to be against all forms of pre-mining and IPO/ICOs. The fact that BURST was "clean" in this respect was one important reason that I got involved in the first place. Today I think differently, although not completely the opposite. To develop a coin technically and at the same time be able to do decent promotional work does, simply, require some sort of funding. The PR team has asked for donations and ran an AT to get the means for improving our PR efforts; however positive it is in one aspect, a sad and troublesome fact is that we now have more than 20,000 registered BURST accounts while only a handful from the community have contributed in a substantial way to the funding (and ironically, the main contributers are found in the PR team).

I fully understand that not everyone can donate 1mil or 500K, but small sums like 500 or 1K BURST from like 18,000 community members is not unreasonable to ask from a miner to further develop this great project. The Team clearly haven't been able to explain the importance of funding and what "micro-payments" can achieve. To spread a single press release in a proper and efficient way costs several hundreds dollars. Hence, the Team, and I had an important role in this, have failed also here.


3) Lack of community involvement. Early on the BURST community was awesome, doing all kind of things, like creating tools and improving the infrastructure of the coin. It was an exiting time.   But things changed. Less people contributed "voluntarily" to protect their BURST investments, probably thinking someone else would do it or they just selling those "free HDD coins".

It is of utterly importance that a wider part of the community gets active to be able move BURST in the desired direction.

Fortunately enough, a lot of the things that are required is mostly easy things, like building an attractive FB page, contribute with possible topics to tweet about, arrange a thunderclap, do fun stuff to get attention, working on an new and improved OP, or using your social network to try to get more devs on-board. Sure, the PR Team today is relatively large but the members are recruited for their special skills and work on quite restricted projects. BURST is nothing without the community helping each other out instead of have seemingly endless personal vendettas.


4) This very thread. A new, self-moderated thread to keep all the trash should have been created
a long time ago - with an state-of-the-art OP, easy to update. We have discussed that possibility, but not all agreed and the idea was not prioritized. But, imho, this is a key issue. 1050 pages, an outdated OP and a unfinished homepage will not attract investors. The PR Team might be the reason this never was implemented, but more importantly nothing will stop the wider community from contribute to such a cause.


5) Greed. I'll not comment much on this, as it's related to point 2) above but it's not only the everyday 2TB miner who seeks to make a buck or two who is the problem. Also some members of the PR Team have their own agendas to earn BURST in ways that does not involve trading, mining, or utilizing the developed features we have. Unfortunately the hardworking Boba is an example of this, spamming page after page with info of a pool. Stuff like that should be put in a separate thread; BCT even has a forum for pool ANNs. I'm far from a communist/socialist: I think, as the movie speech states, that greed is good. Without greed the world would stop - but the implication of greed short term must be put in relation ti the the overarching objective of making the massive potential in the BURST concept a reality. That's a just a different form of greed.


So... the PR Team failed with many things, more than are mentioned here.

But BURST does *not* consists of 15-20 people; BURST is nothing without the many thousands account holders. With a little activity from all of you, BURST could be so much more. The community members who wont see community work as an investment equal to mining also failed; more then 19,000 account holders who didn't help the core-devs, the software programmers and the PR team. Almost all of us failed.


With all this said, I still believe immensely in BURST. We have one of the most brilliant main-devs around, we have unique features already developed and in the pipeline, we have a shit-load of skilled people who does things without much attention, and we were even able to get geniuses as vbcs and the CIYAM developers involved.

But we need to realize that BURST requires more than pure technology. BURST could very well end up like betamax in the beta/vhs war, where betamax clearly were the superior technology but failed to enroll the key actors and lost.


Lastly,circumstances will prohibit me from contribute in any significant way in the future as it has for the past month. But I wont sell a single BURST; I will donate all I've to the hard-working core dev-team along with some btc and two cloud mining operation which constantly (so far...) produce btc to support the development of BURST. I never reached my goal of owning 10% of the outstanding shares, but I'm pretty close. My hope is that this funding will be sort of a new start for BURST. How the money will be spent is up to the core members of the dev-team which I have great trust in and who became true friends the last 8 or so months. However, and very important, my actions doesn't mean that BURST is saved - far from it.

BURST needs you. Your time, a bit of you money, your social network, your creativity. You can even do a simple thing as register an account at bit-x.com with the referral link in my sig, as that will increase the btc mining power and give the devs - and yourself - an opportunity to create one of the greatest coins ever. BURST needs your efforts.

At the moment I'm organizing the transfer of funds I've. As I had control over the BTC donation account, mczarnek, crowe or xizmax will publish a new address for btc donation shortly and update the homepage.


Bye.

[coinits]

Actually it is against the terms of bitcointalk to advertise pools in a thread. Other than mentioning it in the original OP it not permitted and is a bannable offense if repeat behavior is noticed. I just found this out recently. 

[crowetic]

There is a 20+ man strong PR team. I have not found a single item from them on my own, only what they posted here. That shows clearly that it failed.
I did however found from Boba in Germany a lots of information, which came back to me via my friends living there. He seems the only one really DOING something to promote Burst. - Thanks Boba!

This is my last post in this thread. I agree with Elmit's first part of the cited post. The PR Team has evidently failed to promote BURST in a proper way. However, that doesn't mean we haven't worked hard, did our best and put in the hours required. That we have done (more than Boba who joined rather later but who done a great job).


So why have we failed...? I think there are a numbers of reason that I'll bring up. It might not be the truth, it certainly isn't complete, but perhaps will this post start a constructive discussion of what have gone wrong, the strengths BURST indeed has and all the things achieved, so you as a collective will to find the correct way forward. And, yes, I'm pretentious.   Some of the reason according to me:


he wrong
1) Bad leadership in the PR Team, mainly due to we (I) aimed way too high with bad time schedule. Too many projects were started at about the same time, with many new people joining the group. I realize that I'm highly responsible for this failure, as I for for awhile had some kind of a "leader role" regarding the PR work.


2) Lack of funding. I used to be against all forms of pre-mining and IPO/ICOs. The fact that BURST was "clean" in this respect was one important reason that I got involved in the first place. Today I think differently, although not completely the opposite. To develop a coin technically and at the same time be able to do decent promotional work does, simply, require some sort of funding. The PR team has asked for donations and ran an AT to get the means for improving our PR efforts; however positive it is in one aspect, a sad and troublesome fact is that we now have more than 20,000 registered BURST accounts while only a handful from the community have contributed in a substantial way to the funding (and ironically, the main contributers are found in the PR team).

I fully understand that not everyone can donate 1mil or 500K, but small sums like 500 or 1K BURST from like 18,000 community members is not unreasonable to ask from a miner to further develop this great project. The Team clearly haven't been able to explain the importance of funding and what "micro-payments" can achieve. To spread a single press release in a proper and efficient way costs several hundreds dollars. Hence, the Team, and I had an important role in this, have failed also here.


3) Lack of community involvement. Early on the BURST community was awesome, doing all kind of things, like creating tools and improving the infrastructure of the coin. It was an exiting time.   But things changed. Less people contributed "voluntarily" to protect their BURST investments, probably thinking someone else would do it or they just selling those "free HDD coins".

It is of utterly importance that a wider part of the community gets active to be able move BURST in the desired direction.

Fortunately enough, a lot of the things that are required is mostly easy things, like building an attractive FB page, contribute with possible topics to tweet about, arrange a thunderclap, do fun stuff to get attention, working on an new and improved OP, or using your social network to try to get more devs on-board. Sure, the PR Team today is relatively large but the members are recruited for their special skills and work on quite restricted projects. BURST is nothing without the community helping each other out instead of have seemingly endless personal vendettas.


4) This very thread. A new, self-moderated thread to keep all the trash should have been created
a long time ago - with an state-of-the-art OP, easy to update. We have discussed that possibility, but not all agreed and the idea was not prioritized. But, imho, this is a key issue. 1050 pages, an outdated OP and a unfinished homepage will not attract investors. The PR Team might be the reason this never was implemented, but more importantly nothing will stop the wider community from contribute to such a cause.


5) Greed. I'll not comment much on this, as it's related to point 2) above but it's not only the everyday 2TB miner who seeks to make a buck or two who is the problem. Also some members of the PR Team have their own agendas to earn BURST in ways that does not involve trading, mining, or utilizing the developed features we have. Unfortunately the hardworking Boba is an example of this, spamming page after page with info of a pool. Stuff like that should be put in a separate thread; BCT even has a forum for pool ANNs. I'm far from a communist/socialist: I think, as the movie speech states, that greed is good. Without greed the world would stop - but the implication of greed short term must be put in relation ti the the overarching objective of making the massive potential in the BURST concept a reality. That's a just a different form of greed.


So... the PR Team failed with many things, more than are mentioned here.

But BURST does *not* consists of 15-20 people; BURST is nothing without the many thousands account holders. With a little activity from all of you, BURST could be so much more. The community members who wont see community work as an investment equal to mining also failed; more then 19,000 account holders who didn't help the core-devs, the software programmers and the PR team. Almost all of us failed.


With all this said, I still believe immensely in BURST. We have one of the most brilliant main-devs around, we have unique features already developed and in the pipeline, we have a shit-load of skilled people who does things without much attention, and we were even able to get geniuses as vbcs and the CIYAM developers involved.

But we need to realize that BURST requires more than pure technology. BURST could very well end up like betamax in the beta/vhs war, where betamax clearly were the superior technology but failed to enroll the key actors and lost.


Lastly,circumstances will prohibit me from contribute in any significant way in the future as it has for the past month. But I wont sell a single BURST; I will donate all I've to the hard-working core dev-team along with some btc and two cloud mining operation which constantly (so far...) produce btc to support the development of BURST. I never reached my goal of owning 10% of the outstanding shares, but I'm pretty close. My hope is that this funding will be sort of a new start for BURST. How the money will be spent is up to the core members of the dev-team which I have great trust in and who became true friends the last 8 or so months. However, and very important, my actions doesn't mean that BURST is saved - far from it.

BURST needs you. Your time, a bit of you money, your social network, your creativity. You can even do a simple thing as register an account at bit-x.com with the referral link in my sig, as that will increase the btc mining power and give the devs - and yourself - an opportunity to create one of the greatest coins ever. BURST needs your efforts.

At the moment I'm organizing the transfer of funds I've. As I had control over the BTC donation account, mczarnek, crowe or xizmax will publish a new address for btc donation shortly and update the homepage.


Bye.

Thank you for everything mmmaybe, we won't let you down. I know that we've gone sorta backwards with a lot of things, but I'm going to help as much as I can with turning that around and making BURST a beautiful, well promoted, and easy to use crypto. WITH the best tech.

Later brother.

[bobafett]

-[ANNOUNCEMENT]- Second Burstcoin.de Asset
New Asset with 50% Monthly Payout oft the Pool Fee / Highly Secure  

Asset Name – BdePool
Pool URL – http://pool.burstcoin.de
Total number available – 2.500.000
Initial Price –  10 Burst
Asset Number (ID)– 3101115594843807035

50% Payout monthly of the Pool Income made thru Pool Fees - This asset pays out 50% of the Pool Fees monthly.  

50% Instant Payout to Pool Miners - 50% of the Sellprice of the asset will be instantly payed out to miners to make the pool more attractive and increase the pool fee and so the value of the asset. Max. 20.000 Burst a day.

First payout is the first of Juli 2015!

URL: http://www.burstcoin.de/assets/asset_bdepool.pdf

Guaranteed monthly payout! Every first day of the month i will payout all assets. Regardless how long you are owner oft them. Also if you bought the assets one day before the first.

Save Investment! The payouts are covered and backed by my pool system. 50% of the pool income will go to the asset holders monthly on the first day oft he month. If more miners uses the pool, the pool will find more blocks and the monthly payout per asset will go up.

Instant Cashout without loss! If the Pool shuts down, then i will buyback all sold shares to a price of 5 Burst. 5 not 10 because, as written above, i will instantly payout 50% of the sellprice.  So if you are a miner, you will geht instant ca. 50% of the sell price back thru pool payouts.

Burstcoin.de is the name oft the german website of burst, with mining guides, best practises, how tos, a manual for beginners, example hardwares from my miners, scripts for tracking the mining tasks, news over burst, etc. and information for the german community is actually daily added.

Pool.burstcoin.de is the Pool of Burstcoin.de. Hardware Dual Quad Core Xeon with 3.0 Ghz, 24GB Ram, Internet 1GBit with DDos Protectoin, Fail Safe Replicated Host with Fallback, Geo location qfrom Blago (thanks to blago for the support)

Bobafett is my username in Bitcointalk.org and burstforum.com.  I´m mining and investing in Burst since the beginning. I invested over 10000 Euros since now in Burst (bought with btc) and mining hardware. Until now i never sold any of my coins because i really belive this coin has a bright future.

Bobafett is the owner oft the account BURST-AJ63-3W8L-FGBT-2ALZE.

Bobafett is  mining with over 160TB every day and my next miner is acutally plotting. My daily minded income of burst are between 20.000 and 30.000 Burst.

See also my other asset, that pays out regularly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg11250838#msg11250838

Scheduled next payment:
01.07.2015

500.000 Assets are right now for sale. ONLY the assets that are for sale and sold will be rewarded with 50% of the Pool Fee. So atm only 500k! The 2Mio i hold, will NOT!

Calc for June:
100.000 Burst Estimeted income from Pool Fee for June, 50% of that is 50.000 Burst for the shares.
500.000 Assets are out and will be rewarded. The other 2 Mio will NOT be rewarded, because i still hold them.
50.000 Fee / 500.000 Assets = 0.1 Burst per Asset.  1 Asset costs 10 Burst, so the monthly interest will be 1% atm.
If more miners join the pool, the pool will make more income and the monthly interest for you will be higher.

[Elmit]

There is a 20+ man strong PR team. I have not found a single item from them on my own, only what they posted here. That shows clearly that it failed.
I did however found from Boba in Germany a lots of information, which came back to me via my friends living there. He seems the only one really DOING something to promote Burst. - Thanks Boba!

This is my last post in this thread. I agree with Elmit's first part of the cited post. The PR Team has evidently failed to promote BURST in a proper way. However, that doesn't mean we haven't worked hard, did our best and put in the hours required. That we have done (more than Boba who joined rather later but who done a great job).


So why have we failed...? I think there are a numbers of reason that I'll bring up. It might not be the truth, it certainly isn't complete, but perhaps will this post start a constructive discussion of what have gone wrong, the strengths BURST indeed has and all the things achieved, so you as a collective will to find the correct way forward. And, yes, I'm pretentious.   Some of the reason according to me:


he wrong
1) Bad leadership in the PR Team, mainly due to we (I) aimed way too high with bad time schedule. Too many projects were started at about the same time, with many new people joining the group. I realize that I'm highly responsible for this failure, as I for for awhile had some kind of a "leader role" regarding the PR work.


2) Lack of funding. I used to be against all forms of pre-mining and IPO/ICOs. The fact that BURST was "clean" in this respect was one important reason that I got involved in the first place. Today I think differently, although not completely the opposite. To develop a coin technically and at the same time be able to do decent promotional work does, simply, require some sort of funding. The PR team has asked for donations and ran an AT to get the means for improving our PR efforts; however positive it is in one aspect, a sad and troublesome fact is that we now have more than 20,000 registered BURST accounts while only a handful from the community have contributed in a substantial way to the funding (and ironically, the main contributers are found in the PR team).

I fully understand that not everyone can donate 1mil or 500K, but small sums like 500 or 1K BURST from like 18,000 community members is not unreasonable to ask from a miner to further develop this great project. The Team clearly haven't been able to explain the importance of funding and what "micro-payments" can achieve. To spread a single press release in a proper and efficient way costs several hundreds dollars. Hence, the Team, and I had an important role in this, have failed also here.


3) Lack of community involvement. Early on the BURST community was awesome, doing all kind of things, like creating tools and improving the infrastructure of the coin. It was an exiting time.   But things changed. Less people contributed "voluntarily" to protect their BURST investments, probably thinking someone else would do it or they just selling those "free HDD coins".

It is of utterly importance that a wider part of the community gets active to be able move BURST in the desired direction.

Fortunately enough, a lot of the things that are required is mostly easy things, like building an attractive FB page, contribute with possible topics to tweet about, arrange a thunderclap, do fun stuff to get attention, working on an new and improved OP, or using your social network to try to get more devs on-board. Sure, the PR Team today is relatively large but the members are recruited for their special skills and work on quite restricted projects. BURST is nothing without the community helping each other out instead of have seemingly endless personal vendettas.


4) This very thread. A new, self-moderated thread to keep all the trash should have been created
a long time ago - with an state-of-the-art OP, easy to update. We have discussed that possibility, but not all agreed and the idea was not prioritized. But, imho, this is a key issue. 1050 pages, an outdated OP and a unfinished homepage will not attract investors. The PR Team might be the reason this never was implemented, but more importantly nothing will stop the wider community from contribute to such a cause.


5) Greed. I'll not comment much on this, as it's related to point 2) above but it's not only the everyday 2TB miner who seeks to make a buck or two who is the problem. Also some members of the PR Team have their own agendas to earn BURST in ways that does not involve trading, mining, or utilizing the developed features we have. Unfortunately the hardworking Boba is an example of this, spamming page after page with info of a pool. Stuff like that should be put in a separate thread; BCT even has a forum for pool ANNs. I'm far from a communist/socialist: I think, as the movie speech states, that greed is good. Without greed the world would stop - but the implication of greed short term must be put in relation ti the the overarching objective of making the massive potential in the BURST concept a reality. That's a just a different form of greed.


So... the PR Team failed with many things, more than are mentioned here.

But BURST does *not* consists of 15-20 people; BURST is nothing without the many thousands account holders. With a little activity from all of you, BURST could be so much more. The community members who wont see community work as an investment equal to mining also failed; more then 19,000 account holders who didn't help the core-devs, the software programmers and the PR team. Almost all of us failed.


With all this said, I still believe immensely in BURST. We have one of the most brilliant main-devs around, we have unique features already developed and in the pipeline, we have a shit-load of skilled people who does things without much attention, and we were even able to get geniuses as vbcs and the CIYAM developers involved.

But we need to realize that BURST requires more than pure technology. BURST could very well end up like betamax in the beta/vhs war, where betamax clearly were the superior technology but failed to enroll the key actors and lost.


Lastly,circumstances will prohibit me from contribute in any significant way in the future as it has for the past month. But I wont sell a single BURST; I will donate all I've to the hard-working core dev-team along with some btc and two cloud mining operation which constantly (so far...) produce btc to support the development of BURST. I never reached my goal of owning 10% of the outstanding shares, but I'm pretty close. My hope is that this funding will be sort of a new start for BURST. How the money will be spent is up to the core members of the dev-team which I have great trust in and who became true friends the last 8 or so months. However, and very important, my actions doesn't mean that BURST is saved - far from it.

BURST needs you. Your time, a bit of you money, your social network, your creativity. You can even do a simple thing as register an account at bit-x.com with the referral link in my sig, as that will increase the btc mining power and give the devs - and yourself - an opportunity to create one of the greatest coins ever. BURST needs your efforts.

At the moment I'm organizing the transfer of funds I've. As I had control over the BTC donation account, mczarnek, crowe or xizmax will publish a new address for btc donation shortly and update the homepage.


Bye.

I am sorry if I was mis-understood. I am not pointing fingers at people, but at the result. I just mean we need to find other ways, more ways ... to get the eyes on BURST.
We are living in the world of the Internet, social media and VIRAL content. Exactly the viral component is missing. I understand, that we do not have millions ($$$) to spend, therefore we need to use millions (people) to share our idea. Not 20 people should tweet, ... but 1000s should be motivated to re-tweet. Not 20 people should blog something about BURST, ... but 1000s should be motivated to talk about it, ...

"Too many things at the same time" and now no word about AT- Lottery, AT- Crowdfunding, ... anymore.

[q327K091]

nothing is failing, unless one wanted to make a million dollars in few months, then yes

[Kartojal]

Hi all. I have been burst mining for a few weeks now with a few TB of HDD space. I have a Samsung Chromebook that I have crouton installed on to run a full Linux desktop on it. I am curious if there is a Linux Burst miner that can be compiled on the ARM architecture. I would like to mine on the Chromebook so that my laptop will be portable again. Thanks in advance.

I dont know if you can mine on Chromebook, but i compiled dcct tools and uray miner to ARM long time ago in a virtual arm system (v6 i think):

https://github.com/kartojal/burst_arm_tools

Someone told me that these binaries need optimizations and better compatibility with new ARM chips... In July will start again with banana pi.

[burstFTW]

Hi all. I have been burst mining for a few weeks now with a few TB of HDD space. I have a Samsung Chromebook that I have crouton installed on to run a full Linux desktop on it. I am curious if there is a Linux Burst miner that can be compiled on the ARM architecture. I would like to mine on the Chromebook so that my laptop will be portable again. Thanks in advance.

I dont know if you can mine on Chromebook, but i compiled dcct tools and uray miner to ARM long time ago in a virtual arm system (v6 i think):

https://github.com/kartojal/burst_arm_tools

Someone told me that these binaries need optimizations and better compatibility with new ARM chips... In July will start again with banana pi.

This looks like exactly what I was looking for. I will let you know how it works out.

Thanks

[bobafett]

-[ANNOUNCEMENT]- Second Burstcoin.de Asset
New Asset with 50% Monthly Payout oft the Pool Fee / Highly Secure  

Asset Name – BdePool
Pool URL – http://pool.burstcoin.de
Total number available – 2.500.000
Initial Price –  10 Burst
Asset Number (ID)– 3101115594843807035

50% Payout monthly of the Pool Income made thru Pool Fees - This asset pays out 50% of the Pool Fees monthly.  

50% Instant Payout to Pool Miners - 50% of the Sellprice of the asset will be instantly payed out to miners to make the pool more attractive and increase the pool fee and so the value of the asset. Max. 20.000 Burst a day.

First payout is the first of Juli 2015!

URL: http://www.burstcoin.de/assets/asset_bdepool.pdf

Guaranteed monthly payout! Every first day of the month i will payout all assets. Regardless how long you are owner oft them. Also if you bought the assets one day before the first.

Save Investment! The payouts are covered and backed by my pool system. 50% of the pool income will go to the asset holders monthly on the first day oft he month. If more miners uses the pool, the pool will find more blocks and the monthly payout per asset will go up.

Instant Cashout without loss! If the Pool shuts down, then i will buyback all sold shares to a price of 5 Burst. 5 not 10 because, as written above, i will instantly payout 50% of the sellprice.  So if you are a miner, you will geht instant ca. 50% of the sell price back thru pool payouts.

Burstcoin.de is the name oft the german website of burst, with mining guides, best practises, how tos, a manual for beginners, example hardwares from my miners, scripts for tracking the mining tasks, news over burst, etc. and information for the german community is actually daily added.

Pool.burstcoin.de is the Pool of Burstcoin.de. Hardware Dual Quad Core Xeon with 3.0 Ghz, 24GB Ram, Internet 1GBit with DDos Protectoin, Fail Safe Replicated Host with Fallback, Geo location qfrom Blago (thanks to blago for the support)

Bobafett is my username in Bitcointalk.org and burstforum.com.  I´m mining and investing in Burst since the beginning. I invested over 10000 Euros since now in Burst (bought with btc) and mining hardware. Until now i never sold any of my coins because i really belive this coin has a bright future.

Bobafett is the owner oft the account BURST-AJ63-3W8L-FGBT-2ALZE.

Bobafett is  mining with over 160TB every day and my next miner is acutally plotting. My daily minded income of burst are between 20.000 and 30.000 Burst.

See also my other asset, that pays out regularly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg11250838#msg11250838

Scheduled next payment:
01.07.2015

500.000 Assets are right now for sale.

31.05.2015: 20.000 Burst was just transfert to pool http://pool.burstcoin.de Look @ http://burstcoin.eu/transaction/2620907475893786087

[xizmax]

There is a 20+ man strong PR team. I have not found a single item from them on my own, only what they posted here. That shows clearly that it failed.
I did however found from Boba in Germany a lots of information, which came back to me via my friends living there. He seems the only one really DOING something to promote Burst. - Thanks Boba!

This is my last post in this thread. I agree with Elmit's first part of the cited post. The PR Team has evidently failed to promote BURST in a proper way. However, that doesn't mean we haven't worked hard, did our best and put in the hours required. That we have done (more than Boba who joined rather later but who done a great job).


So why have we failed...? I think there are a numbers of reason that I'll bring up. It might not be the truth, it certainly isn't complete, but perhaps will this post start a constructive discussion of what have gone wrong, the strengths BURST indeed has and all the things achieved, so you as a collective will to find the correct way forward. And, yes, I'm pretentious.   Some of the reason according to me:


he wrong
1) Bad leadership in the PR Team, mainly due to we (I) aimed way too high with bad time schedule. Too many projects were started at about the same time, with many new people joining the group. I realize that I'm highly responsible for this failure, as I for for awhile had some kind of a "leader role" regarding the PR work.


2) Lack of funding. I used to be against all forms of pre-mining and IPO/ICOs. The fact that BURST was "clean" in this respect was one important reason that I got involved in the first place. Today I think differently, although not completely the opposite. To develop a coin technically and at the same time be able to do decent promotional work does, simply, require some sort of funding. The PR team has asked for donations and ran an AT to get the means for improving our PR efforts; however positive it is in one aspect, a sad and troublesome fact is that we now have more than 20,000 registered BURST accounts while only a handful from the community have contributed in a substantial way to the funding (and ironically, the main contributers are found in the PR team).

I fully understand that not everyone can donate 1mil or 500K, but small sums like 500 or 1K BURST from like 18,000 community members is not unreasonable to ask from a miner to further develop this great project. The Team clearly haven't been able to explain the importance of funding and what "micro-payments" can achieve. To spread a single press release in a proper and efficient way costs several hundreds dollars. Hence, the Team, and I had an important role in this, have failed also here.


3) Lack of community involvement. Early on the BURST community was awesome, doing all kind of things, like creating tools and improving the infrastructure of the coin. It was an exiting time.   But things changed. Less people contributed "voluntarily" to protect their BURST investments, probably thinking someone else would do it or they just selling those "free HDD coins".

It is of utterly importance that a wider part of the community gets active to be able move BURST in the desired direction.

Fortunately enough, a lot of the things that are required is mostly easy things, like building an attractive FB page, contribute with possible topics to tweet about, arrange a thunderclap, do fun stuff to get attention, working on an new and improved OP, or using your social network to try to get more devs on-board. Sure, the PR Team today is relatively large but the members are recruited for their special skills and work on quite restricted projects. BURST is nothing without the community helping each other out instead of have seemingly endless personal vendettas.


4) This very thread. A new, self-moderated thread to keep all the trash should have been created
a long time ago - with an state-of-the-art OP, easy to update. We have discussed that possibility, but not all agreed and the idea was not prioritized. But, imho, this is a key issue. 1050 pages, an outdated OP and a unfinished homepage will not attract investors. The PR Team might be the reason this never was implemented, but more importantly nothing will stop the wider community from contribute to such a cause.


5) Greed. I'll not comment much on this, as it's related to point 2) above but it's not only the everyday 2TB miner who seeks to make a buck or two who is the problem. Also some members of the PR Team have their own agendas to earn BURST in ways that does not involve trading, mining, or utilizing the developed features we have. Unfortunately the hardworking Boba is an example of this, spamming page after page with info of a pool. Stuff like that should be put in a separate thread; BCT even has a forum for pool ANNs. I'm far from a communist/socialist: I think, as the movie speech states, that greed is good. Without greed the world would stop - but the implication of greed short term must be put in relation ti the the overarching objective of making the massive potential in the BURST concept a reality. That's a just a different form of greed.


So... the PR Team failed with many things, more than are mentioned here.

But BURST does *not* consists of 15-20 people; BURST is nothing without the many thousands account holders. With a little activity from all of you, BURST could be so much more. The community members who wont see community work as an investment equal to mining also failed; more then 19,000 account holders who didn't help the core-devs, the software programmers and the PR team. Almost all of us failed.


With all this said, I still believe immensely in BURST. We have one of the most brilliant main-devs around, we have unique features already developed and in the pipeline, we have a shit-load of skilled people who does things without much attention, and we were even able to get geniuses as vbcs and the CIYAM developers involved.

But we need to realize that BURST requires more than pure technology. BURST could very well end up like betamax in the beta/vhs war, where betamax clearly were the superior technology but failed to enroll the key actors and lost.


Lastly,circumstances will prohibit me from contribute in any significant way in the future as it has for the past month. But I wont sell a single BURST; I will donate all I've to the hard-working core dev-team along with some btc and two cloud mining operation which constantly (so far...) produce btc to support the development of BURST. I never reached my goal of owning 10% of the outstanding shares, but I'm pretty close. My hope is that this funding will be sort of a new start for BURST. How the money will be spent is up to the core members of the dev-team which I have great trust in and who became true friends the last 8 or so months. However, and very important, my actions doesn't mean that BURST is saved - far from it.

BURST needs you. Your time, a bit of you money, your social network, your creativity. You can even do a simple thing as register an account at bit-x.com with the referral link in my sig, as that will increase the btc mining power and give the devs - and yourself - an opportunity to create one of the greatest coins ever. BURST needs your efforts.

At the moment I'm organizing the transfer of funds I've. As I had control over the BTC donation account, mczarnek, crowe or xizmax will publish a new address for btc donation shortly and update the homepage.


Bye.

Thank you for everything mmmaybe, we won't let you down. I know that we've gone sorta backwards with a lot of things, but I'm going to help as much as I can with turning that around and making BURST a beautiful, well promoted, and easy to use crypto. WITH the best tech.

Later brother.

I agree with crowe, thank you for everything you've done mate. We are not giving up on all of this, we will continue to work and learn from the mistakes we've made. The important thing is we are not running away from them.

Tech is also moving forwards, our devs stand firmly by the coin.

We will have some rough time ahead as the PR team while we reorganize and rethink our strategy but we will not quit.

[q327K091]

professor of crypto says: meantime people keep on adding tera bytes to the network

[riskyfire]

-[ANNOUNCEMENT]- Second Burstcoin.de Asset
New Asset with 50% Monthly Payout oft the Pool Fee / Highly Secure  

Asset Name – BdePool
Pool URL – http://pool.burstcoin.de
Total number available – 2.500.000
Initial Price –  10 Burst
Asset Number (ID)– 3101115594843807035

50% Payout monthly of the Pool Income made thru Pool Fees - This asset pays out 50% of the Pool Fees monthly.  

50% Instant Payout to Pool Miners - 50% of the Sellprice of the asset will be instantly payed out to miners to make the pool more attractive and increase the pool fee and so the value of the asset. Max. 20.000 Burst a day.

First payout is the first of Juli 2015!

URL: http://www.burstcoin.de/assets/asset_bdepool.pdf

Guaranteed monthly payout! Every first day of the month i will payout all assets. Regardless how long you are owner oft them. Also if you bought the assets one day before the first.

Save Investment! The payouts are covered and backed by my pool system. 50% of the pool income will go to the asset holders monthly on the first day oft he month. If more miners uses the pool, the pool will find more blocks and the monthly payout per asset will go up.

Instant Cashout without loss! If the Pool shuts down, then i will buyback all sold shares to a price of 5 Burst. 5 not 10 because, as written above, i will instantly payout 50% of the sellprice.  So if you are a miner, you will geht instant ca. 50% of the sell price back thru pool payouts.

Burstcoin.de is the name oft the german website of burst, with mining guides, best practises, how tos, a manual for beginners, example hardwares from my miners, scripts for tracking the mining tasks, news over burst, etc. and information for the german community is actually daily added.

Pool.burstcoin.de is the Pool of Burstcoin.de. Hardware Dual Quad Core Xeon with 3.0 Ghz, 24GB Ram, Internet 1GBit with DDos Protectoin, Fail Safe Replicated Host with Fallback, Geo location qfrom Blago (thanks to blago for the support)

Bobafett is my username in Bitcointalk.org and burstforum.com.  I´m mining and investing in Burst since the beginning. I invested over 10000 Euros since now in Burst (bought with btc) and mining hardware. Until now i never sold any of my coins because i really belive this coin has a bright future.

Bobafett is the owner oft the account BURST-AJ63-3W8L-FGBT-2ALZE.

Bobafett is  mining with over 160TB every day and my next miner is acutally plotting. My daily minded income of burst are between 20.000 and 30.000 Burst.

See also my other asset, that pays out regularly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg11250838#msg11250838

Scheduled next payment:
01.07.2015

500.000 Assets are right now for sale.

Hi,

Do you have an estimate for the income that might be generated per month and the dividend?
I did some quick checking and guessed that 3,000,000 burst mined at 2% fee's 60,000 for June and of that, half for share holders.
Maybe double for July with good growth, what are your expectations?

[bobafett]

Hi,

Do you have an estimate for the income that might be generated per month and the dividend?
I did some quick checking and guessed that 3,000,000 burst mined at 2% fee's 60,000 for June and of that, half for share holders.
Maybe double for July with good growth, what are your expectations?

I got not a exact value atm, because the pool is to new. but i also would expext 60-100k for June. Plus 20.000k per day due 50% of the assets are puttet into the pool. so thats another 12.000 Fee.

500.000 Assets for sell atm, if the pool makes 100.000 fee, 50% of that are 50.000, that would be 0,1 Burst per Asset. Initial asset price is 10 Burst, so that would be 1% Interest per Month atm. Not so bad i think. Also the chance, that more miners join that are asset holders is high, so i think its a good win win situation.

[bobafett]

competition is good for business and risk diversification is highly recommend

-[ANNOUNCEMENT]- First Burstcoin.de Asset
New Asset with 2% Interest a Month / 24% a Interest a Year / Highly Secure

Asset Name – BdeBank
Total number available – 500.000
Initial Price –  50 Burst
Asset Number (ID)– 4053085726300717216
First payout is the first of April!

2% interest montly! This asset pays out 2% interest monthly.  One B.deBank  Asset = 50 Burst. 2% of 50 Burst = 1 Burst / month payout.

URL: http://www.burstcoin.de/assets/asset_b.debank.pdf

Guaranteed monthly payout! Every first day of the month i will payout all interest of the assets. Regardless how long you are owner oft them. Also if you bought the assets one day before the first.

Save Investment! The interests are covered and backed by my mining system. If all shares are sold, i have to pay 500.000 Burst  intrest a month. My Miners make average 25.000 Burst per day, whats in a month 750.000 Burst. So the payment of interest is secured forever. Also i am actually bring up more miners, also, look above, this is covert with my burst account with 8.4 Million Burstcoins atm.

Instant Cashout without loss! Also you can cashout anytime. I will buy back the assets from you. Therfore i will place a buy order for every sold asset with a price of 50 Burst. The price what i pay for the payback will decrease 1% every month.  Buywall will be created instantly after the first sales and adapted every first day of the month.

Burstcoin.de is the name oft the german website of burst , with mining guides, best practises, how tos, a manual for beginners, example hardwares from my miners, scripts for tracking the mining tasks, news over burst, etc. and information for the german community is actually daily added.

Bobafett is my username in Bitcointalk.org and burstforum.com.  I´m mining and investing in Burst qfilsince the beginning. I invested over 8500 Euros since now in Burst (bought with btc) and mining hardware. Until now i never sold any of my coins because i really belive this coin has a bright future.

Bobafett is the owner oft the account BURST-AJ63-3W8L-FGBT-2ALZE and now holding over 8.4 Million Burst and is now Top 11 of all Burst holders .

Bobafett is  mining with over 120TB every day and my next miner is acutally plotting. My daily minded income of burst are between 20.000 and 30.000 Burst.

Payout Done!

Code:

Amount paid, Account, TX
80000, BURST-YZD9-CD4K-D5CA-6NUEL, 13787033242969618454
75000, BURST-LTG3-M3W7-BXRP-CYBTS, 4850460705691176048
58490, BURST-G7KZ-8XRM-NB3B-6L7GY, 1254397981311113910
52383, BURST-2PFM-P6FK-JQTD-4U7NC, 11401566167295432273
35018, BURST-PC4J-ETQQ-VYHC-BPYHP, 427314499777115303
23929, BURST-7WX4-U942-EJWW-8JSFN, 5282415948612504303
21947, BURST-EDTR-SU3E-VV64-3ALJJ, 1988976224081044226
20500, BURST-YS55-JXPL-BJKB-ATVQJ, 4955434016477689914
20026, BURST-EEE2-RDC4-7KZN-99Y36, 9227405097261463759
20000, BURST-H2AK-CKC4-HCU3-7JCP7, 11402941174017821056
20000, BURST-LF5W-A9EN-Z95T-CBMX6, 15845871639625322765
20000, BURST-B3QN-4W4Z-ZK74-EKWJG, 3679624467661097541
11480, BURST-79PK-DGC2-M4XP-HUAVB, 3087120974441333265
10000, BURST-K376-EJSB-NMC5-FDF2F, 6202332068118365332
6636, BURST-TDWT-SRJM-V9X7-7SVL5, 15991636717546359162
5198, BURST-CNM8-9FB7-E43L-8DE38, 6256766913194369070
5114, BURST-7Q8V-B4AB-N6WY-CYXFG, 5693138542331977134
2000, BURST-S37A-4WRB-RJ35-7WN5A, 7786211203802061695
2000, BURST-LP4P-JQ5S-G634-DXNMQ, 1137996061798736410
1996, BURST-JZVY-FVNA-5QTQ-6HWU9, 16493481042048613801
1971, BURST-9WD8-6YEW-FMZH-C7BRB, 3355170106629754013
1320, BURST-3N7E-CX8T-K6AM-D6Q4N, 15015134059122991931
1050, BURST-G5EG-7MQ2-QJJ9-7VRCG, 2177712107914410411
720, BURST-L9Y6-FFHR-E9D6-7AR56, 3339582312969683347
640, BURST-2DEM-EBGV-GVCS-HNK6U, 17353088589180191833
500, BURST-8JXK-UEEF-4F5E-36QRD, 1763382316071632797
200, BURST-N8KB-DKKW-9C4W-AF289, 7520886716117111112
200, BURST-K48W-F6TF-LQJW-FHR6A, 3344794307716678673
150, BURST-UADJ-9AFK-Q62J-5YV2K, 3216140640688278920
120, BURST-2QX6-W52G-S466-4C94C, 9295701886964801106
110, BURST-YTCM-Z647-2XGE-APUB6, 11506296055911536282
100, BURST-KLKV-64G5-ZS2L-6F6PP, 12758596314216386763
100, BURST-SARW-AZYD-WB2R-8S2NS, 6337813161338619827
50, BURST-247J-TQC8-T5EB-EJFZP, 5642255537018329637
43, BURST-WKHQ-LQXX-HUR9-C5VQ2, 10920252053779992571
27, BURST-53DP-A7CT-YTM9-FZCLM, 18035152759979052009
10, BURST-X2MY-DV84-GB2J-HCXZE, 520048013298447099
2, BURST-V5ZN-RFPQ-4REU-9XQJG, 8921942125872512050
2, BURST-8GKG-B4KD-MDFR-4247Q, 16356336750986359483
------------All transactions processed------------

Scheduled next payment:
01.07.2015 2% per asset

Recent interest payments:
01.06.2015 2% per asset
01.05.2015 2% per asset
01.04.2015 2% per asset

Also look at my new Asset, atm ca. 1% Intrest per Month and growing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg11495348#msg11495348