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February 26, 2015, 11:06:54 AM
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I have daily 1000+ instances (all are c3.8xlarge) Can I create plots 16tb for each instance and copy the AMI image and start him in other 999 instances? The problem is I have 6hrs to make that and all instances will turn off after 6 hrs of work. And tomorrow I need do it again.
Can I use generated plots in other instances? Or they must be unique?
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February 26, 2015, 11:23:11 AM
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I have daily 1000+ instances (all are c3.8xlarge) Can I create plots 16tb for each instance and copy the AMI image and start him in other 999 instances? The problem is I have 6hrs to make that and all instances will turn off after 6 hrs of work. And tomorrow I need do it again.
Can I use generated plots in other instances? Or they must be unique?

You can't use the same plot for mining, you will mine like one instance. But you can try to do some plotting and save it, and connect when the instances are up! The plots are uniqe because the "start nonce" !

First plot:
 start nonce 0
 total nonces  4398046511104 (16 TB i think)

Second plot:
start nonce 4398046511105 (one nonce more that before Smiley )
total nonces 4398046511104

Third plot:
start nonce 8796093022210
total nonces 4398046511104

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You can't connect with all these instances at the same time and send a script?

Edit: wow, 1000 instances .... 16 tb each... 16.000 TB lol with that i can do wonders Smiley

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February 26, 2015, 11:28:31 AM
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What the hell is wrong with burst.ninja? It's been 24 hours now and no payout and yes i know payout minimum is higher but i got 4TB("~capacity" shows 1,5 tb whatever that means) mining with no payout for far too long. On other pools i got 500-1k burst per day so there should have been a payout already. Because of the hiccups i switched pool for a while and my earnings where 5 times higher, now i come back hoping for some improvement and i get nothing. This is fucking suspicious. If i ever get a payout i will be gone for sure.

Sorry, Mergesort, this was my fault. I was on path to implement bundled payments as fees for sending out small rewards wasn't economically viable. I batched up the payment but then another more pressing issue cropped up which was causing pool instability. Now that the pool is more stable the LONG OVERDUE deferred payments have all been sent.
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February 26, 2015, 11:37:25 AM
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Is there anyway to view what the deadline was that won a block?

Burst.ninja displays it on its stats page. How the info is extracted though I am not sure. Catbref can answer that for sure
The info comes from the blockchain with a standard API request:

Code:
curl --url 'http://localhost:8125/burst?requestType=getBlock&height=70000'
{"previousBlockHash":"3a65bce62f242c0e0469fb4ee5123f07f933be932370ab5c88afee6692dac16e","payloadLength":7920,"totalAmountNQT":"1845777980908",
"generationSignature":"88a7c7d33f01abee9f05510001c05ac3b5f9fc3fdf1d2329c946a41c28df44ce","generator":"13459661020862899104",
"generatorPublicKey":"68be2f7cf1c88caf47276b966fb697c9efe9d0b7debdf63b12df710eaf35a039","baseTarget":"1481092",
"payloadHash":"3c5ac861fbea80f3c0fd410a5ee6cac94f4ab6632c546cb82c77dff039b73c80","generatorRS":"BURST-ASX2-EDEV-QDRF-DLLLP","blockReward":"7350","nextBlock":"3278625908234401267","requestProcessingTime":1,"scoopNum":4040,"numberOfTransactions":45,
"blockSignature":"58c6272c9da74f945a05b85165a765d9b192b11d3aec64bc11ad32b76ccf4200c01478823c1c8c165f011a6f0ab84a7d91f46b1d0195cad525b2c6e64bbe58f8",
"transactions":["9325395788726045776","9598276348667342848","9822513335259451084","10680046966312418312","10827345421779279873","10890013873181639821","10994618202501144854","11336218817966664718","11511505232420421075","11652216872092970684","11823389376081775428","12047720667590966304","12221571889789979485","12495477135780329274","12508678294753144282","12624415036395115171","13279957760664654148","14600405980971226001","14690982676718532548","15297202017968671188","16128524506091644826","17294848650873311590","17481875302961814818","17518815030185321763","17811223609690777448","17975366925211525898","17987664800316416570","18095151730041897979","18110751200099069655","18402242071021169252","1509183065793204526","1674182747733770701","3664420335673229448","3855352788914417893","4247730525502848870","4393553929175529655","4405440361269743160","4995117508908356888","5114833881843952946","7498818187475113256","7601272711934632457","8522602079177816707","8723530613095049919","8817842778427598342","9148163035468669252"],
"nonce":"200159806","version":3,"totalFeeNQT":"4500000000","previousBlock":"1021231003659429178","block":"4972280526148845847","height":70000,"timestamp":16952580}

In there you can see "generator", "nonce", "baseTarget" and "snoopNum" - these are used to calculate deadlines in the same way your miner does.
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February 26, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
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burst.ninja is vastly superior to any and all existing pools (that I have used) on all levels.

Nice new domain.
Much faster/leaner js ui.
Cleaner layout.
Faster communication

Much love to burstcoin, Catbref, Crowetic holding it down and making one of the most innovative cryptos easier to use, mine and adopt by the masses.
I love crowetic too,but about two weeks I get oft-"unable to commit nounce to burst.ninja:8124...<The remote server returned an error<400> bad request>..... Angry

The 400 Bad Request responses have useful messages attached to them. They're not server-side faults but notices from the pool about your nonce submission. For example:
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curl -v --url 'http://5.153.225.55:8124/burst?requestType=submitNonce&accountId=5085825464960632136&nonce=12321' ; echo
*   Trying 5.153.225.55...
* Connected to 5.153.225.55 (5.153.225.55) port 8124 (#0)
> GET /burst?requestType=submitNonce&accountId=5085825464960632136&nonce=12321 HTTP/1.1
> User-Agent: curl/7.40.0
> Host: 5.153.225.55:8124
> Accept: */*
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< HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
< Connection: Keep-Alive
< Content-Length: 188
< Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
< Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:41:05 GMT
<
* Connection #0 to host 5.153.225.55 left intact
{"errorCode":1007,"errorDescription":"The deadline for your nonce is REALLY BAD: 487181 years, 6 months, 11 days, 12 hours, 14 mins, 27 secs - wrong block? are your plot files corrupted?"}

Check your log files!
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February 26, 2015, 11:45:11 AM
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I have daily 1000+ instances (all are c3.8xlarge) Can I create plots 16tb for each instance and copy the AMI image and start him in other 999 instances? The problem is I have 6hrs to make that and all instances will turn off after 6 hrs of work. And tomorrow I need do it again.
Can I use generated plots in other instances? Or they must be unique?

As I told you, the plots must be unique and cannot be overlapped. And furthermore, you have to optimize it. You need some to spend some times to perform such task.
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February 26, 2015, 12:01:35 PM
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I have daily 1000+ instances (all are c3.8xlarge) Can I create plots 16tb for each instance and copy the AMI image and start him in other 999 instances? The problem is I have 6hrs to make that and all instances will turn off after 6 hrs of work. And tomorrow I need do it again.
Can I use generated plots in other instances? Or they must be unique?

You can't use the same plot for mining, you will mine like one instance. But you can try to do some plotting and save it, and connect when the instances are up! The plots are uniqe because the "start nonce" !

First plot:
 start nonce 0
 total nonces  4398046511104 (16 TB i think)

Second plot:
start nonce 4398046511105 (one nonce more that before Smiley )
total nonces 4398046511104

Third plot:
start nonce 8796093022210
total nonces 4398046511104

[...]


You can't connect with all these instances at the same time and send a script?

Edit: wow, 1000 instances .... 16 tb each... 16.000 TB lol with that i can do wonders Smiley
I have daily 1000+ instances (all are c3.8xlarge) Can I create plots 16tb for each instance and copy the AMI image and start him in other 999 instances? The problem is I have 6hrs to make that and all instances will turn off after 6 hrs of work. And tomorrow I need do it again.
Can I use generated plots in other instances? Or they must be unique?

As I told you, the plots must be unique and cannot be overlapped. And furthermore, you have to optimize it. You need some to spend some times to perform such task.

Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad
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February 26, 2015, 12:11:09 PM
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I have daily 1000+ instances (all are c3.8xlarge) Can I create plots 16tb for each instance and copy the AMI image and start him in other 999 instances? The problem is I have 6hrs to make that and all instances will turn off after 6 hrs of work. And tomorrow I need do it again.
Can I use generated plots in other instances? Or they must be unique?

You need diferent plot files for each instance, because if you use the same plot file you are calculating always the same key-nonce pair.

You can make simple scripts for each instance and start ploting quite small files (10-50 gb) and thus use them to mine, eachtime miner read the folder with yours plot files it will use the files contained on it.

With this type of instance, you will plot about 100K nonces minute (13Gb/minute), that is 786Gb/hour.

After 5 hours you will be mining with 3,5Tb at each instance, that's is 3,5Pb (20% of the current size of the network), With some maths, assumed you can plot 750Gb/hour and 15Pb the network size, you would get 10,8 blocks a day with your 6 hour window of use of the 1000 c3.8xlarge instances.

Of course, this is teorical, if you want to deploy you would get a lot of problems (I would help you, if you want)
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February 26, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?
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February 26, 2015, 12:45:31 PM
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Webmaster of Burstcoin.jp.

please PN me.....
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February 26, 2015, 01:17:28 PM
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Take your time to pledge for an Free Online Course for Burstmining.

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February 26, 2015, 01:31:05 PM
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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?

Yes, they will shutdown, and all files will be deleted forever. I need to create my own image in 6hrs.
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February 26, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?

Yes, they will shutdown, and all files will be deleted forever. I need to create my own image in 6hrs.

I did something similar once. I used a script file to setup the entire system. When I started a new instance, then I only uploaded the right script file and let it run.

The trick is to get all setup correct.

As heard before, you need to have all plotfiles non-overlapping, that is one parameter you change for each instance, all other remain exactly the same.
Remember, that you can mine already as soon the plotfile has been started to exist. It throws you an error, which you can ignore, basically saying that the plot file did not contain as much as expected.

You can go even a step further and setup one system, that starts all other systems with EXPECT, a tool, that was used to maintain thousands of routers.

Good luck!

Oh, don't forget to use my pool for that - MiningHere.com:8001

If you need help, ... I am a click away ;-)

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February 26, 2015, 01:48:41 PM
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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?

Yes, they will shutdown, and all files will be deleted forever. I need to create my own image in 6hrs.

Lets break this down.

You have access to 1000+ Amazon C3 instances, each one having these specs
32vCPU   60GB RAM   2 x 320 GB SSD

But you only have this massive farm 6hrs each day.

That's roughly 640TB worth of mining power coming on for 6hrs each day.

Your efforts are nothing but bad for the Burst Network.  You want to move 640TB worth of data within 6rs.... 640TB in  6hrs  Cheesy.  1000+ instances each one have 2x 320GB SSD drives.  That's 640TB  you need to store the plots some place and then upload them to your instances each day.

I'm pretty sure this is not possible, and how does someone get access to that type of computing power for 6hrs each day.  You could make this work on a smaller scale, but I have no desire to see large scale miners only pop on for 6hrs each day.  Good-luck
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February 26, 2015, 01:51:50 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for the help guys!

I finally got Urays R4 miner running on Ubuntu and it seems to be working much
better than the same hardware on windows 7. I couldn't get the dcct miner to run
but will try that again soon if you think the perform is better than Urays.

Big thanks to everyone that help me stumble my way through the problems.

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Hi,

Thanks for the help guys!

I finally got Urays R4 miner running on Ubuntu and it seems to be working much
better than the same hardware on windows 7. I couldn't get the dcct miner to run
but will try that again soon if you think the perform is better than Urays.

Big thanks to everyone that help me stumble my way through the problems.

Weeee one more to Ubuntu, the right choice!  Tongue

If you need any help with Ubuntu, don't doubt to ask me via PM o here Smiley

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February 26, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?

Yes, they will shutdown, and all files will be deleted forever. I need to create my own image in 6hrs.

Lets break this down.

You have access to 1000+ Amazon C3 instances, each one having these specs
32vCPU   60GB RAM   2 x 320 GB SSD

But you only have this massive farm 6hrs each day.

That's roughly 640TB worth of mining power coming on for 6hrs each day.

Your efforts are nothing but bad for the Burst Network.  You want to move 640TB worth of data within 6rs.... 640TB in  6hrs  Cheesy.  1000+ instances each one have 2x 320GB SSD drives.  That's 640TB  you need to store the plots some place and then upload them to your instances each day.

I'm pretty sure this is not possible, and how does someone get access to that type of computing power for 6hrs each day.  You could make this work on a smaller scale, but I have no desire to see large scale miners only pop on for 6hrs each day.  Good-luck

From my experience you can plot with 4 threads, and 10 GB RAM (dedicated to plotting) plot about 40 GB per hour, ... that gives you 240 GB per machine within 6 hours.
Since you mine at the same time and the plot files are created like a triangle, it is equal to the half, ... so per instance 120 GB mining x 6 hours
If you use 1000 machines for 6 hours, that is equal to 250 machines 24 hours, ... so we got 250 x 120 GB per day = about 30 TB per day !!!!
With a network capacity of currently 14,000 TB, this 30 TB does not make a difference !!!

The profit according to the calculator would be 5,824 BURSTs per day, or about 2.44 US$

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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?

Yes, they will shutdown, and all files will be deleted forever. I need to create my own image in 6hrs.

Lets break this down.

You have access to 1000+ Amazon C3 instances, each one having these specs
32vCPU   60GB RAM   2 x 320 GB SSD

But you only have this massive farm 6hrs each day.

That's roughly 640TB worth of mining power coming on for 6hrs each day.

Your efforts are nothing but bad for the Burst Network.  You want to move 640TB worth of data within 6rs.... 640TB in  6hrs  Cheesy.  1000+ instances each one have 2x 320GB SSD drives.  That's 640TB  you need to store the plots some place and then upload them to your instances each day.

I'm pretty sure this is not possible, and how does someone get access to that type of computing power for 6hrs each day.  You could make this work on a smaller scale, but I have no desire to see large scale miners only pop on for 6hrs each day.  Good-luck
I can attach per instance +16TB ssd. Damn so hard Sad
And I can store created plots in aws image. When I starting the new instances I will choose my iso image, he will load my pervously created desktop.
But it's very hard to create 1000 instances log in to them and start over and over and over. That's insane Cheesy
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February 26, 2015, 02:19:10 PM
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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?

Yes, they will shutdown, and all files will be deleted forever. I need to create my own image in 6hrs.

Lets break this down.

You have access to 1000+ Amazon C3 instances, each one having these specs
32vCPU   60GB RAM   2 x 320 GB SSD

But you only have this massive farm 6hrs each day.

That's roughly 640TB worth of mining power coming on for 6hrs each day.

Your efforts are nothing but bad for the Burst Network.  You want to move 640TB worth of data within 6rs.... 640TB in  6hrs  Cheesy.  1000+ instances each one have 2x 320GB SSD drives.  That's 640TB  you need to store the plots some place and then upload them to your instances each day.

I'm pretty sure this is not possible, and how does someone get access to that type of computing power for 6hrs each day.  You could make this work on a smaller scale, but I have no desire to see large scale miners only pop on for 6hrs each day.  Good-luck
I can attach per instance +16TB ssd. Damn so hard Sad

I thought your VPS will restart after 6 hours only, never think of it is actually a HARD-RESET  Shocked
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Problem is the I have only 6 ~ hrs to set up Sad

Do you mean that your plotted files will be deleted after 6 hours?

Yes, they will shutdown, and all files will be deleted forever. I need to create my own image in 6hrs.

Lets break this down.

You have access to 1000+ Amazon C3 instances, each one having these specs
32vCPU   60GB RAM   2 x 320 GB SSD

But you only have this massive farm 6hrs each day.

That's roughly 640TB worth of mining power coming on for 6hrs each day.

Your efforts are nothing but bad for the Burst Network.  You want to move 640TB worth of data within 6rs.... 640TB in  6hrs  Cheesy.  1000+ instances each one have 2x 320GB SSD drives.  That's 640TB  you need to store the plots some place and then upload them to your instances each day.

I'm pretty sure this is not possible, and how does someone get access to that type of computing power for 6hrs each day.  You could make this work on a smaller scale, but I have no desire to see large scale miners only pop on for 6hrs each day.  Good-luck
I can attach per instance +16TB ssd. Damn so hard Sad

I thought your VPS will restart after 6 hours only, never think of it is actually a HARD-RESET  Shocked

Yeah, they will turn off and delete all data thats in HDD forever. So tomorrow I will get a new ones like PC just from the box Cheesy
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