[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[ReDPoiSoN]

What is "Generate token" in the wallet home page!?

Anyone!?

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[uray]

after reading the miner source code, i think we dont need disk space at all
we can create opencl kernel of this code : https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer/blob/master/src/pocminer/util/MiningPlot.java

nonce argument is any nonce u want, addr is ur account number
we can bruteforce any nonce within 240 seconds each block using GPU
and broadcast the best nonce that produce lowest deadline

assuming GPU can do shabal256 at 1 GH/s , that is equal to 240 Giga Nonce (240 secs blocktime) which is equal to 60 GB of disk space ( 1 nonce = 0.25MB )
and again, getting into 1 TB disk space performance, will require atleast 17 GPU (assuming 1 GH/s is accurate)
conclusion : if it is near 1 GH/s its cheaper to use harddrive than GPU

and loking at a glance of shabal256 it is really cheap in computation, i think we really need replace shabal with more memory intensive algo such as scrypt or something to make harddrive mining is far more efficient than GPU or future ASIC

[fishbone]

any alternative download links for the miner?

https://mega.co.nz/#!b0pzHajA!ERk068l5NS6kR7zdLdTgltqyPw3Z60lwAWvgXtNQNTk

seems to be down

[uray]

any alternative download links for the miner?

https://mega.co.nz/#!b0pzHajA!ERk068l5NS6kR7zdLdTgltqyPw3Z60lwAWvgXtNQNTk

seems to be down

wallet : https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/burst-mirror/burst_1.0.0.zip
miner : https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/burst-mirror/pocminer_v1.zip

[PeaMine]

Is there a way to query balance and mining stats using CLI?
Linux Server doesn't have a GUI and Lynx doesn't seem to work with it.

Also I read that a different wallet address is needed for each external hard drive, is that true?
Or can the same wallet address be used?
What about copying this install to a laptop, and just adjusting the plot size for it, then running it, same wallet address etc.

[luxe]

Is there a way to query balance and mining stats using CLI?
Linux Server doesn't have a GUI and Lynx doesn't seem to work with it.

Also I read that a different wallet address is needed for each external hard drive, is that true?
Or can the same wallet address be used?
What about copying this install to a laptop, and just adjusting the plot size for it, then running it, same wallet address etc.

maybe https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin/blob/master/src/java/nxt/http/APIServlet.java contains the commands you are looking for ...

you don't need to use differenet wallet addresses ... just ensure all you plot files are linked to your miner/plots folder ...

[uray]

after reading the miner source code, i think we dont need disk space at all
we can create opencl kernel of this code : https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer/blob/master/src/pocminer/util/MiningPlot.java

nonce argument is any nonce u want, addr is ur account number
we can bruteforce any nonce within 240 seconds each block using GPU
and broadcast the best nonce that produce lowest deadline

assuming GPU can do shabal256 at 1 GH/s , that is equal to 240 Giga Nonce (240 secs blocktime) which is equal to 60 GB of disk space ( 1 nonce = 0.25MB )
and again, getting into 1 TB disk space performance, will require atleast 17 GPU (assuming 1 GH/s is accurate)
conclusion : if it is near 1 GH/s its cheaper to use harddrive than GPU

and loking at a glance of shabal256 it is really cheap in computation, i think we really need replace shabal with more memory intensive algo such as scrypt or something to make harddrive mining is far more efficient than GPU or future ASIC

this is my understanding after reading the miner code,
using disk space


and after using GPU, without disk

[Sevith]

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[luxe]

Selling 100K .6 BTC. PM ME

same offer here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg8330476#msg8330476

but take his first :-)


@uray
did i get it right .. using another algorithm than shabal256 would protect the coin from beeing raped by kind of GUI/ASIC 'hack' ... cause it just woldn't be effective?! if i remember it right ... for first step of pool mining we have to recreate plots anyway?! maybe than ... that algorithm e.g. scrypt should be included there. sure something dev should think about.

[drumingspz]

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[BitcoinDN.com]

Talked to C-Cex,

Wallet is not open source, they won't list it.

Dev, open source the wallet.

[uray]

Talked to C-Cex,

Wallet is not open source, they won't list it.

Dev, open source the wallet.

its already open since day-0

https://github.com/BurstProject/burstcoin

[crowetic]

Just setup 12TB of space dedicated solely to BURST, now, I wonder how long this will take to plot  

[Sevith]

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[SpeedDemon13]

Wish I even had at least 2 or 3 blocks...lol.....Nearly going on 96 hours on 1.5TB with ZERO blocks....I'm going to give this til Sunday, if no blocks by then I'll give up mining until a pool is up....

I mine 50 hours with 600GB and don't have a result... Without a pool it's going to be a waste of time. I actually stop to mine at that moment.

hmm can't belive that, are you sure you login to wallet with passphrases.txt from mining folder?!
is your mining/plots folder 600GB?! sry, but we had all this before ... just want to be sure you did everything correct ...

Exactly as the direction dictate.

Wish I even had at least 2 or 3 blocks...lol.....Nearly going on 96 hours on 1.5TB with ZERO blocks....I'm going to give this til Sunday, if no blocks by then I'll give up mining until a pool is up....

I mine 50 hours with 600GB and don't have a result... Without a pool it's going to be a waste of time. I actually stop to mine at that moment.

That's not necessarily true, eventually you will find something. Just gotta hold out. The first 2 days I was mining, I hit 6 blocks before my plotting had even finished, now I have been over a day with nothing, and much more space. So, it's all about luck and whatnot, just keep going and you'll hit something. But you know if you want to stop it's not going to hurt my feelings. Will give me more of a chance to hit blocks! lol.

Your such the comedian.  

That didn't really help with you saying you hit 6 blocks in the first 2 days....I know it's luck, but damn me and few others are feeling left out until a pool is out. There must be something that gives a edge mining this that people are getting so many blocks.

Wish I even had at least 2 or 3 blocks...lol.....Nearly going on 96 hours on 1.5TB with ZERO blocks....I'm going to give this til Sunday, if no blocks by then I'll give up mining until a pool is up....

I mine 50 hours with 600GB and don't have a result... Without a pool it's going to be a waste of time. I actually stop to mine at that moment.

That's not necessarily true, eventually you will find something. Just gotta hold out. The first 2 days I was mining, I hit 6 blocks before my plotting had even finished, now I have been over a day with nothing, and much more space. So, it's all about luck and whatnot, just keep going and you'll hit something. But you know if you want to stop it's not going to hurt my feelings. Will give me more of a chance to hit blocks! lol.

it's really not going to cost you much at all to keep mining if you've finished plotting unless you need to space back from your hdd

It's nice that it's power efficient, but that's a moot point when your not getting nothing in return. I don't need any of the space, I have these drives as spares.

For use few getting nothing at the moment; It's like getting free gas to drive anywhere, but never getting to the destination(s) you want to get to.

[foodies123]

Wait, how is this work globaly verifiable by peers, how do you know my miner isn't modded to just relay random data until something stivks and I get a block ?

my simplified answer is, you broadcast ur account number and ur selected nonce to network, these two numbers can be verified into deadline value, so yes you can just broadcast any data (nonce and account number), but i doubt you want to broadcast random account number since you wont receive ur reward, and for nonce yes it is just random value, we select it which one has lowest deadline value

edit : i think nonce is not so random, because they are relevant scoop for each block (depend on previous block hash), i am not sure, we need to read the implementation, its just based on OP post

but if nonce isn't a globaly verifiable var you can just hash with your address and random var that match the nonce schema and spam the network until something sticks... I haven't looked at the source because java but I'd really like an answer to this because if it trully is a reliable hashing scheme it could be very big.

[dcct]

For everyone who wants to know if their plot ranges do overlap:

https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/overlap

Just copy filenames (or output of "ls -l" or "dir") into the box.

(let me know if you like it!)

[uray]

Wait, how is this work globaly verifiable by peers, how do you know my miner isn't modded to just relay random data until something stivks and I get a block ?

my simplified answer is, you broadcast ur account number and ur selected nonce to network, these two numbers can be verified into deadline value, so yes you can just broadcast any data (nonce and account number), but i doubt you want to broadcast random account number since you wont receive ur reward, and for nonce yes it is just random value, we select it which one has lowest deadline value

edit : i think nonce is not so random, because they are relevant scoop for each block (depend on previous block hash), i am not sure, we need to read the implementation, its just based on OP post

but if nonce isn't a globaly verifiable var you can just hash with your address and random var that match the nonce schema and spam the network until something sticks... I haven't looked at the source because java but I'd really like an answer to this because if it trully is a reliable hashing scheme it could be very big.

nonce is globally verifiable, u can reproduce 256KB of hash just by using account number and nonce so any peer can verify it.

this source code is the relevant part, you can verify it : https://github.com/BurstProject/pocminer/blob/master/src/pocminer/util/MiningPlot.java

and yes you can spam the network with your address and random var until something stick, put it simply (your address) + (any random var) result is always correct, but each of them will result to different deadline value, network will choose one which is the smallest deadline value of all broadcasted nonce submission

[callmejack]

Just setup 12TB of space dedicated solely to BURST, now, I wonder how long this will take to plot  

this totally depends on the amount of cores you generate with  
my 8 thread quad i7 systems need about 5 minutes for a 2gb block.
12 tb sums up to about 512 hours or almost 22 days.
i run mine on 5 systems but plan to fill up 60tb.

[Sevith]

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