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September 12, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
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there is no scientific proof. There were no camera/recorders back then so nothing can be captured. Everything was written down and the remains of the body of Jesus have never been found, cause they have been moved by his apostles to an unknown location

Deductive reasoning.

From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg21421980#msg21421980: In the Star Trek 2009 movie, Spock repeated a long-cherished, scientific truth at about 1 hour 9 minutes into the movie, "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Proof for God:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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September 12, 2017, 06:48:31 PM
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I guess when you make up your own little definition of "scientific proof", you can claim whatever you want.

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September 12, 2017, 07:02:53 PM
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Every bit of proof you have provided also proves the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.

How can you prove your fairy tale and not mine at the same time?

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September 12, 2017, 07:26:15 PM
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Every bit of proof you have provided also proves the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.

How can you prove your fairy tale and not mine at the same time?

Hey, if you can scientifically prove that it was the Flying Spaghetti Monster that made the earth, then your god and mine are the same.

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September 12, 2017, 10:05:14 PM
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Every bit of proof you have provided also proves the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.

How can you prove your fairy tale and not mine at the same time?

Hey, if you can scientifically prove that it was the Flying Spaghetti Monster that made the earth, then your god and mine are the same.

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See that's what I don't understand because you always claim that yet you believe in a specific god which is the god from the Bible. That god cannot be the flying spaghetti monster.



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September 13, 2017, 12:34:54 AM
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Every bit of proof you have provided also proves the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.

How can you prove your fairy tale and not mine at the same time?

Hey, if you can scientifically prove that it was the Flying Spaghetti Monster that made the earth, then your god and mine are the same.

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See that's what I don't understand because you always claim that yet you believe in a specific god which is the god from the Bible. That god cannot be the flying spaghetti monster.

The thing you keep missing are the two little words "scientific proof." If you want to start a religion topic, go ahead. Scientific proof for God doesn't have anything to do with non-scientific religion. It doesn't explain nearly as much as the various "god" religions. Why not? Because there is a lot of science to scientifically find out regarding God. Science barely has a handle on it.

All this means is that science proves God exists. It doesn't prove much about God. It might not prove enough to tell if the Bible is most accurate, or if Flying Spaghetti Monster info is most accurate. The real question is, can God be real against scientific proof?

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September 13, 2017, 03:15:59 PM
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Every bit of proof you have provided also proves the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.

How can you prove your fairy tale and not mine at the same time?

Hey, if you can scientifically prove that it was the Flying Spaghetti Monster that made the earth, then your god and mine are the same.

Cool

See that's what I don't understand because you always claim that yet you believe in a specific god which is the god from the Bible. That god cannot be the flying spaghetti monster.

The thing you keep missing are the two little words "scientific proof." If you want to start a religion topic, go ahead. Scientific proof for God doesn't have anything to do with non-scientific religion. It doesn't explain nearly as much as the various "god" religions. Why not? Because there is a lot of science to scientifically find out regarding God. Science barely has a handle on it.

All this means is that science proves God exists. It doesn't prove much about God. It might not prove enough to tell if the Bible is most accurate, or if Flying Spaghetti Monster info is most accurate. The real question is, can God be real against scientific proof?

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Certainly a god could exist and could have been the creator of the universe however there is no proof that he did.



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P.S I tried to read 2nd one, that was devoted to explain the Messiah. Sorry it makes no sense to me. You really need to try harder to explain why do you think God is not omnipotent and such. It is deeply disturbing. What else is disturbing is that you say that Bible is bad and you like make your all statements based on the Bible and you do not explain why do think otherwise. That is like...... worse than Catechism. I could understand that people followed catechism, they were illiterate bafoons. You seem to not be illiterate bafoon. I could understand the ones that believed in Talmud. There are so many of those Talmud books, that you would need a lifetime to read them all, and only then you could claim what you found or not, because there was some premise it might be in another book. Pheonix Journal is not a lifetime journey. So why believe such a things?

oh i don't know, maybe same reason as someone like you could
believe in a non-existent invisible omnipotent sky daddy and bible bullshit fairy tales written by goat herders 2000 years ago?

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September 14, 2017, 07:17:12 AM
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P.S I tried to read 2nd one, that was devoted to explain the Messiah. Sorry it makes no sense to me. You really need to try harder to explain why do you think God is not omnipotent and such. It is deeply disturbing. What else is disturbing is that you say that Bible is bad and you like make your all statements based on the Bible and you do not explain why do think otherwise. That is like...... worse than Catechism. I could understand that people followed catechism, they were illiterate bafoons. You seem to not be illiterate bafoon. I could understand the ones that believed in Talmud. There are so many of those Talmud books, that you would need a lifetime to read them all, and only then you could claim what you found or not, because there was some premise it might be in another book. Pheonix Journal is not a lifetime journey. So why believe such a things?

oh i don't know, maybe same reason as someone like you could
believe in a non-existent invisible omnipotent sky daddy and bible bullshit fairy tales written by goat herders 2000 years ago?

...btw  Mr Genius...  "buffoon"  is spelled with 2 f's  ...  just sayin...

Thank you, but I am not a native speaker. You have found one orthographical error. You are so awesome.

Try to speak so fluent in polish as I am in english.

All I was saying was on the subject of the lack of the reasons to replace the Bible. I know that all you atheist can do is changing the subject and name calling. I do not know if you are doing so because you have hard time reading, do not know what a rhetorical figure of speech is, or you just do not know the meaning of words in general. If I would have to bet I would say all above.

If you think it is only fairy tale it is your choice. But I do not understand your shallow use of this word. There are a lot of things that can be called that. All you do is reserve that for religion. Why? What else do you think is a fairy tale? I would say you just create a fraudulent impression of the ability to think critically.

I can not see any virtue in being proud of not seeing anything spiritual or transcedent. What is the virtue of lacking something? Is there such a virtue? I guess not.
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September 14, 2017, 07:24:10 AM
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It is important essential to understand that BD has his own definition of "science" and "proof" than the rest of the world.

In his little world, everything is proof the FSM exists.  To the rest of us, there is no proof at all.

Don't be too hard on my brainwashed buddy.  His parents did it to him - he was innocent.

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Ohh boy are we still talking about this ...

I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence. We are talking about an almighty "creature". The fact that god is "everywhere", but it wasn't possible to measure his presence till now, means ... we don't have the equipment yet, or he is so powerful that he can hide his existence, or he just doesn't exist. Nevertheless, there is no SCIENTIFIC proof today. And NO ... wether mentions of god in an old book, nor some people telling about seeing god is not a SCIENTIFIC proof.
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I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence.

You make good points... unfortunately there can be scientific proof if you make up your own definition of "SCIENTIFIC".   Undecided

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I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence.

There can be if you make up your own definition of "SCIENTIFIC".   Undecided

That is true. I just don't understand why believers try so hard to combine science with the supernatural. On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything - but then he is still provable through science. Doesn't make it even more sense to say ... well you can't proof gods existence BECAUSE he is so powerful!

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I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence.

There can be if you make up your own definition of "SCIENTIFIC".   Undecided

That is true. I just don't understand why believers try so hard to combine science with the supernatural. On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything - but then he is still provable through science. Doesn't make it even more sense to say ... well you can't proof gods existence BECAUSE he is so powerful!



Because they are pussies to admit they only believe in gods blindly. They know deep inside there is really no evidence or proof for their existence and they only believe in them because they are desperately trying to find a purpose for life.



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September 14, 2017, 10:02:41 AM
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On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything

And yet, everything bad that happens on earth is not his fault...   Roll Eyes

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On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything

And yet, everything bad that happens on earth is not his fault...   Roll Eyes

Well, god doesn't make any mistakes. If something happens, then it happens for a reason! Apparently there is a very good reason why e.g. so many children starve to death ... but of course we stupid humans cannot understand it. 
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On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything

And yet, everything bad that happens on earth is not his fault...   Roll Eyes

Well, god doesn't make any mistakes. If something happens, then it happens for a reason! Apparently there is a very good reason why e.g. so many children starve to death ... but of course we stupid humans cannot understand it. 

If you can't understand it how are you convinced that what he is doing is the right thing?



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September 14, 2017, 11:16:20 AM
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On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything

And yet, everything bad that happens on earth is not his fault...   Roll Eyes

Well, god doesn't make any mistakes. If something happens, then it happens for a reason! Apparently there is a very good reason why e.g. so many children starve to death ... but of course we stupid humans cannot understand it. 

If you can't understand it how are you convinced that what he is doing is the right thing?

ehm... well ... I am not?! Because I don't believe in god. I thought that because of the way I chose my words, it was pretty clear how I feel about this topic ^^. Apparently not.
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September 14, 2017, 11:18:51 AM
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On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything

And yet, everything bad that happens on earth is not his fault...   Roll Eyes

Well, god doesn't make any mistakes. If something happens, then it happens for a reason! Apparently there is a very good reason why e.g. so many children starve to death ... but of course we stupid humans cannot understand it. 

If you can't understand it how are you convinced that what he is doing is the right thing?

ehm... well ... I am not?! Because I don't believe in god. I thought that because of the way I chose my words, it was pretty clear how I feel about this topic ^^. Apparently not.

Yeah, my bad. I'm used to religious extremists in this topic



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September 14, 2017, 11:27:11 AM
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I think that the mission here is to prove that he *exists*, not that he is not. Unless it will be an endless thing.
Can you prove that the spaghetti monster is exist? NO. So it means it is? NO.
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