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September 18, 2014, 08:31:22 AM
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I believe in God. So I have no need of any scientific proof.
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September 18, 2014, 10:48:39 AM
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Damn I wish I could ignore this thread now.  It's gone from specious claims about scientific proofs to pure, unadulerated, schmoozeball evangelism.  I heard waaaay too much of this kinda nonsense when I was a child.

We need all the crazies located in one place so we know who they are, this is like the Christian version of ISIS on the internet.

Yeah, I did just compare you assholes to ISIS, deal with it.

Faith and spiritualism are innately human, it has been with us for as long as we have had the ability to ponder existence. There has never been a human civilization in recorded history without some sort of "religion". Atheism and Darwinism one could argue, are also faiths.

To group people together with extreme fundamentalist psychopaths, simply because they have faith in a higher power is in and of itself a form of extremism.

You and people like you are what is wrong with the world.

There are people on this board who have declared that homosexuality means there is something biologically wrong with the people saying they are homosexual, there are people who have demanded that others be thrown into jail for a simple prank on a Jesus statue, not to mention the blatant racism and xenophobia here. I've actually been pretty diplomatic in the fact that I haven't gone into the stuff about religion that truly reviles me yet believe it or not.

Interestingly enough though, I have very little against Buddhists and Sun Worshippers because as far as I know these guys are relatively harmless, even Satanists are more peaceful than the likes of a lot of mainstream religions I've seen. Also, I'd be very interested in discovering what's so 'wrong' about me considering the fact that I when it comes to physical contact with people I always do my best to commit to self-defence and defence of others when religious fanatics go batshit insane at the very mention of evolution etc. like they have in this thread.

Speaking of which, if you guys seriously don't believe in science, then fuck off to a street corner and start preaching there instead of using your mobile phones and the internet to preach, because guess what? It's those scientific advancements that you railed against so much that are actually responsible for creating the stuff that you rage on so regularly. To me, it doesn't matter whether your god exists or not, what matters is he is a violent scumbag and I know that because of the people who follow him.

No gods, no masters!
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September 18, 2014, 10:52:44 AM
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10 Scientists Who Claim to Have Proof about the Existence of God

The Scientist Who Dug into Hell in Siberia and Recorded the Cries of Damned Souls (1989)


The Neuroscientist Who Claimed that Heaven Exists After Being in a Week-Long Coma (2008)


The Chemistry Student Who Demostrated that Heaven and Hell Exist


The Professor of Medicine Who Claimed to Have Found Sculptures Made by God Himself (1725)


Pascal's Wager: God Is, or He Is Not. You Must Wager (17th century)


Euler's Formula to Explain God's Existence (18th century)


The Mathematician Who Developed the Theorem of God (1931)

The Scientist Who Finds No Conflict Between Science and Religious Faith (2007)


The Computer Scientists Who Allegedly Proved God Exists (2013)

The Neurologist Who Claimed that Near-Death Experiences Actually Can Happen (2013)

 

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September 18, 2014, 03:17:17 PM
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10 Scientists Who Claim to Have Proof about the Existence of God

The Scientist Who Dug into Hell in Siberia and Recorded the Cries of Damned Souls (1989)

The Neuroscientist Who Claimed that Heaven Exists After Being in a Week-Long Coma (2008)

The Chemistry Student Who Demostrated that Heaven and Hell Exist

The Professor of Medicine Who Claimed to Have Found Sculptures Made by God Himself (1725)

Pascal's Wager: God Is, or He Is Not. You Must Wager (17th century)

Euler's Formula to Explain God's Existence (18th century)

The Mathematician Who Developed the Theorem of God (1931)

The Scientist Who Finds No Conflict Between Science and Religious Faith (2007)

The Computer Scientists Who Allegedly Proved God Exists (2013)

The Neurologist Who Claimed that Near-Death Experiences Actually Can Happen (2013)

Here's an explanation for all of these:

http://www.oddee.com/item_98822.aspx

All of these were lies and hoaxes! And if there is a god, whoever keeps reposting these lies is going to hell.

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September 18, 2014, 03:54:03 PM
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No gods, no masters!

No masters.
Except the taxman, right?
 Roll Eyes

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September 18, 2014, 04:20:13 PM
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No gods, no masters!

No masters.
Except the taxman, right?
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No, not even the taxman.

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September 18, 2014, 04:26:11 PM
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wasnt there a kid movie that experiences he died but comes back to life.

Its based on a supposedly a true story of his experience, and re-tells his family.
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September 18, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
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I don't believe in GOD because the consistent replacement of supernatural explanations of the world with natural ones , consistent evidence? Large amounts of it, from many different sources is exactly zero.

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September 18, 2014, 06:01:56 PM
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I don't believe in GOD because the consistent replacement of supernatural explanations of the world with natural ones , consistent evidence? Large amounts of it, from many different sources is exactly zero.

See? That's the trick, isn't it?

If we knew all about God, we wouldn't have to believe. Consider your wife (or anybody or anything that you know exists). Do you believe she exists? Maybe. But more than believing, you KNOW she exists.

If the evidence proved God existed, then you wouldn't have to believe. You would KNOW. But since ALL religion revolves around the idea of believing, there really isn't going to be any proof for God. If there were proof, you wouldn't have to believe. You would KNOW.

The evidence for God is great. The fact that most of people in the world believe in God or a god, is in itself great evidence. The machine quality of the universe suggests a Maker.

As for consistency, you won't find one person in the whole world who is consistent with yourself. Even your closest, most trusted friend, is at least slightly inconsistent with you.

The point? Don't give up on God. Why not? There will come a time that He will reveal Himself to you and all people. And the thing that He will consider important will be how and how much you believed in Him, here, before He revealed Himself, before the time that you won't have to believe anymore, because you will KNOW.

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September 18, 2014, 06:22:58 PM
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The evidence for God is great. The fact that most of people in the world believe in God or a god, is in itself great evidence. The machine quality of the universe suggests a Maker.

Most people in the world believed the world was flat. That didn't turn out to be great evidence.

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September 18, 2014, 08:03:55 PM
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Kinda pointless, cant prove such a thing scientifically.
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September 18, 2014, 08:24:50 PM
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Don't give up on God. Why not?
Because of the evidence.

Mainstream scientific consensus is not powerful enough to explain the evidence for survival:

Here is one example of high-quality evidence of the survival of the personality:

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Dr. James Hyslop, professor of Logic and Ethics at Columbia University, and one of the most distinguished American psychical researchers, reported the following incident.

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As Sir Wiliam Barrett concluded in his review of the case: "The simplest and most reasonable solution is that the information was derived from the mind of the deceased person."

2 page PDF:
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/Cases_51-75/case56_soule-soul.pdf

Is mainstream science going to give us any information at all on this subject? I challenge anyone to explain this evidence using consensus theories.

Reincarnation is a core teaching of many spiritual paths and it has evidence to support it. This may be related to theism in some indirect fashion.

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September 18, 2014, 08:41:09 PM
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No gods, no masters!

No masters.
Except the taxman, right?
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Taxes are irrelevant now we have Bitcoin Wink
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September 18, 2014, 10:49:36 PM
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if a god exist do you guys believe he will punish a suicide?
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September 18, 2014, 10:56:37 PM
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God dont punish suicide, it is their negative thoughts that provoking them. 

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September 18, 2014, 10:59:23 PM
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if a god exist do you guys believe he will punish a suicide?


Suicide is murder. However, Suicide can be laying down your life for your friends, like dying to protect your buddies in war.

It depends on if the person has faith in the forgiveness that God provides through Jesus, or not. Not an easy way to answer this.

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September 19, 2014, 03:53:19 AM
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10 Scientists Who Claim to Have Proof about the Existence of God

The Scientist Who Dug into Hell in Siberia and Recorded the Cries of Damned Souls (1989)

The Neuroscientist Who Claimed that Heaven Exists After Being in a Week-Long Coma (2008)

The Chemistry Student Who Demostrated that Heaven and Hell Exist

The Professor of Medicine Who Claimed to Have Found Sculptures Made by God Himself (1725)

Pascal's Wager: God Is, or He Is Not. You Must Wager (17th century)

Euler's Formula to Explain God's Existence (18th century)

The Mathematician Who Developed the Theorem of God (1931)

The Scientist Who Finds No Conflict Between Science and Religious Faith (2007)

The Computer Scientists Who Allegedly Proved God Exists (2013)

The Neurologist Who Claimed that Near-Death Experiences Actually Can Happen (2013)

Here's an explanation for all of these:

http://www.oddee.com/item_98822.aspx

All of these were lies and hoaxes! And if there is a god, whoever keeps reposting these lies is going to hell.

Rassah!  Long time no see!  You don't seem to hang out on Adam's thread do you?  That is the hangout for many of us as of late.

I miss our philosophical discussions though.  I saw the title of this thread and it appears that I have missed out on hours of fun debates. Wink

I figured anything I said might be said in vain though.  Undecided 

Was that supposed to be a joke about "reposting lies and going to hell?" 

If there is no God there is no heaven or hell so how could anyone go to hell by reposting anything if there is no such a place? 

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September 19, 2014, 03:59:14 AM
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if a god exist do you guys believe he will punish a suicide?


Are you really seriously thinking about suicide?  I saw your post in Adam's thread.   Bitcoin is so not worth it Kenji!  And if you are feeling overwhelmed and depressed about the current price just have a little patience.  It will rebound.  I have alot of money tied up in BTC too and these dips are very painful but I have seen how fast the price can rise and realize that it is a game of patience really.  When it does rise again,  make sure to cash some out so that you can handle the next drop, that will most likely happen.   It is a very volatile investment and can certainly lead to some depressing and on the other side euphoric episodes.  Not being over invested helps to ease the pain a bit.


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September 19, 2014, 04:13:17 AM
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if a god exist do you guys believe he will punish a suicide?


Are you really seriously thinking about suicide?  I saw your post in Adam's thread.   Bitcoin is so not worth it Kenji!  And if you are feeling overwhelmed and depressed about the current price just have a little patience.  It will rebound.  I have alot of money tied up in BTC too and these dips are very painful but I have seen how fast the price can rise and realize that it is a game of patience really.  When it does rise again,  make sure to cash some out so that you can handle the next drop, that will most likely happen.   It is a very volatile investment and can certainly lead to some depressing and on the other side euphoric episodes.  Not being over invested helps to ease the pain a bit.


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Escape the plutocrats’ zanpakutō, Flower in the Mirror, Moon on the Water: brave “the ascent which is rough and steep” (Plato).
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September 19, 2014, 04:59:51 AM
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Rassah!  Long time no see!  You don't seem to hang out on Adam's thread do you?  That is the hangout for many of us as of late.

I miss our philosophical discussions though.  I saw the title of this thread and it appears that I have missed out on hours of fun debates. Wink

I figured anything I said might be said in vain though.  Undecided 

Was that supposed to be a joke about "reposting lies and going to hell?" 

If there is no God there is no heaven or hell so how could anyone go to hell by reposting anything if there is no such a place? 

Hi! Yeah, definitely!

Adam's thread?

Not really a joke. If they are christian and believe in hell, then that claim will have meaning to them, even if it doesn't to me.

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