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January 13, 2018, 10:18:29 AM
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Sometimes, I don't get why people still needs scientific explanation just to prove God. Is everything really answerable by science?  Huh

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January 13, 2018, 10:22:23 AM
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There is no scientific explanation yet that God or Jesus existed but if we placed him in our heart, we will feel the care by him.

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January 13, 2018, 10:34:34 AM
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Sometimes, I don't get why people still needs scientific explanation just to prove God. Is everything really answerable by science?  Huh

Science is good. It helps us live better. But science can't answer much of anything. That's why they have developed quantum mechanics. QM is essentially complex probability. It's a bit like complex guesswork.

To show you how weak science is, consider that there are billions of atoms in the tip of your finger. Science doesn't really have a method for tracking an individual atom vary far. They might be able to track you, but they can't track one of your individual atoms directly... at least not very easily.

Consider the atoms and molecules in the air. They might be able to tag a dear and track it as it runs through the woods. But they can't tag and track a molecule of wind. And there are countless trillions of those, but they can't track even one.

Science is weak.

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January 13, 2018, 10:36:13 AM
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In the first place, is god definable?

Probably the essence of what God is, is not definable. But that is another topic. This one is about proving His existence. Two different topics.

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January 13, 2018, 12:05:07 PM
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The usual garbage full of fallacies and misinformation...
I do not believe that god exists, I have never seen science show any evidence that God exists in this world, God is only in the imagination of every human being, I know that God is one People are respectable but they are not real

Cause and effect exists in everything we have found. So does entropy. So does complexity. Combining these scientifically shows that God exists. Why? Because these 3 couldn't exist in the universe without something that fits our definition of "God."

The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery. Machines have makers.

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You never explained why complexity means that something was designed.

''The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery'' Keep making shit up. Not all machines have makers, a rock doesn't have a designer.



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January 13, 2018, 01:27:32 PM
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Personality i believe with god. And god created all this universe include all inside in it. God created all dimension of life include hell and paradise.

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January 13, 2018, 01:59:12 PM
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Actually a lot of scientific proof that the god is there, one of which gives life and took the lives of all living beings both in the sky and the earth. Even we can still breathe until this moment too, that is evidence that signifies that God exists.

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January 13, 2018, 05:18:12 PM
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I really doubt there is any scientific proof to describe god existence.
If science proves that God exists, then I will believe that there is a god, but now that science is not proven to exist, they are only in the imagination of every human being.

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January 13, 2018, 05:26:00 PM
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Everything you had, proves that God exist.

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January 13, 2018, 05:38:07 PM
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I really doubt there is any scientific proof to describe god existence.
If science proves that God exists, then I will believe that there is a god, but now that science is not proven to exist, they are only in the imagination of every human being.

Wow! You did a good job there. You stepped back a whole step from the idea of scientifically proving that God exists. You showed that science has not been proven to exist. If science doesn't exist, there is no way it can show that God exists. And if science doesn't exist, there is no way to scientifically prove that science exists. Perhaps we can't prove that God or anything else exists, scientifically.

Good show, there!

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January 13, 2018, 05:46:34 PM
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The usual garbage full of fallacies and misinformation...
I do not believe that god exists, I have never seen science show any evidence that God exists in this world, God is only in the imagination of every human being, I know that God is one People are respectable but they are not real

Cause and effect exists in everything we have found. So does entropy. So does complexity. Combining these scientifically shows that God exists. Why? Because these 3 couldn't exist in the universe without something that fits our definition of "God."

The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery. Machines have makers.

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You never explained why complexity means that something was designed.

''The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery'' Keep making shit up. Not all machines have makers, a rock doesn't have a designer.

All machinery that we know is machinery, has designers. All the machine operations of this machinery use nature's machine operations. Everything is machinery. Machines have makers. Complex machines have complex makers. Machines as complex as the machines of nature and the universe, have such a complex Maker that He fits the definition of our word "God."

Thank you for prompting me to give a better explanation. I hope you stop denying the fact of God's existence before you deny yourself out of existence. I mean, once you realize that God exists, then you have to find out about Him enough to be saved. Just know that He exists doesn't automatically bring salvation.

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January 14, 2018, 12:26:56 AM
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I mean, once you realize that God exists, then you have to find out about Him enough to be saved. Just know that He exists doesn't automatically bring salvation.

There is nothing you can do to be loved by god.

He knew his plan for you from the moment he created you.  He gives you free will but he knows what you will do. 

When he created you he already knew you would reject him and he would torture you for all eternity. 

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January 14, 2018, 12:45:04 AM
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I believe that God exists, everything that exists is God's creation.
manuasia can not create wind, fire and human life
if you do not believe that means you're crazy,

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January 14, 2018, 12:48:57 AM
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if you do not believe that means you're crazy,

Right.

You are crazy if you believe all the repeated observations by millions of people of evolution.
You are crazy if you ignore magical fairy tales.

You idiots need to find your own forum.  :/

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January 14, 2018, 01:23:35 AM
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Science has long since moved on from trying to demonstrate that god exists, and is busy figuring out precisely how it works. If the existence of a god were as easy to demonstrate as love
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The usual garbage full of fallacies and misinformation...
I do not believe that god exists, I have never seen science show any evidence that God exists in this world, God is only in the imagination of every human being, I know that God is one People are respectable but they are not real

Cause and effect exists in everything we have found. So does entropy. So does complexity. Combining these scientifically shows that God exists. Why? Because these 3 couldn't exist in the universe without something that fits our definition of "God."

The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery. Machines have makers.

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You never explained why complexity means that something was designed.

''The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery'' Keep making shit up. Not all machines have makers, a rock doesn't have a designer.

All machinery that we know is machinery, has designers. All the machine operations of this machinery use nature's machine operations. Everything is machinery. Machines have makers. Complex machines have complex makers. Machines as complex as the machines of nature and the universe, have such a complex Maker that He fits the definition of our word "God."

Thank you for prompting me to give a better explanation. I hope you stop denying the fact of God's existence before you deny yourself out of existence. I mean, once you realize that God exists, then you have to find out about Him enough to be saved. Just know that He exists doesn't automatically bring salvation.

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Why are you recycling the same bad and flawed argument?

 ''Everything is machinery.''

''All machinery that we know is machinery, has designers.'' No, we just know our things are designed because we know humans make things. We know a bottle is designed because we know bottles are made by humans and not found in nature, we didn't get inspired by nature to create bottles. Now you are jumping from, we know humans make stuff to, everything is a machine and therefore everything is designed. I mean, what? why? wtf? Nothing indicates a rock is designed.

If we see a house,… we conclude, with the greatest certainty, that it had an architect or builder because this is precisely that species of effect which we have experienced to proceed from that species of cause. But surely you will not affirm that the universe bears such a resemblance to a house that we can with the same certainty infer a similar cause, or that the analogy is here entire and perfect (Hume, Dialogues, Part II).

Second, Hume argues that, even if the resemblance between the material universe and human artifacts justified thinking they have similar causes, it would not justify thinking that an all-perfect God exists and created the world. For example, there is nothing in the argument that would warrant the inference that the creator of the universe is perfectly intelligent or perfectly good. Indeed, Hume argues that there is nothing there that would justify thinking even that there is just one deity: "what shadow of an argument... can you produce from your hypothesis to prove the unity of the Deity?

Animals, plants, humans, are far from perfect, nothing indicates that an all powerful god created them.



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January 24, 2018, 05:25:57 PM
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The usual garbage full of fallacies and misinformation...
I do not believe that god exists, I have never seen science show any evidence that God exists in this world, God is only in the imagination of every human being, I know that God is one People are respectable but they are not real

Cause and effect exists in everything we have found. So does entropy. So does complexity. Combining these scientifically shows that God exists. Why? Because these 3 couldn't exist in the universe without something that fits our definition of "God."

The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery. Machines have makers.

Cool

You never explained why complexity means that something was designed.

''The whole operation of the universe is complex machinery'' Keep making shit up. Not all machines have makers, a rock doesn't have a designer.

All machinery that we know is machinery, has designers. All the machine operations of this machinery use nature's machine operations. Everything is machinery. Machines have makers. Complex machines have complex makers. Machines as complex as the machines of nature and the universe, have such a complex Maker that He fits the definition of our word "God."

Thank you for prompting me to give a better explanation. I hope you stop denying the fact of God's existence before you deny yourself out of existence. I mean, once you realize that God exists, then you have to find out about Him enough to be saved. Just know that He exists doesn't automatically bring salvation.

Cool

Why are you recycling the same bad and flawed argument?

 ''Everything is machinery.''

''All machinery that we know is machinery, has designers.'' No, we just know our things are designed because we know humans make things. We know a bottle is designed because we know bottles are made by humans and not found in nature, we didn't get inspired by nature to create bottles. Now you are jumping from, we know humans make stuff to, everything is a machine and therefore everything is designed. I mean, what? why? wtf? Nothing indicates a rock is designed.

If we see a house,… we conclude, with the greatest certainty, that it had an architect or builder because this is precisely that species of effect which we have experienced to proceed from that species of cause. But surely you will not affirm that the universe bears such a resemblance to a house that we can with the same certainty infer a similar cause, or that the analogy is here entire and perfect (Hume, Dialogues, Part II).

Second, Hume argues that, even if the resemblance between the material universe and human artifacts justified thinking they have similar causes, it would not justify thinking that an all-perfect God exists and created the world. For example, there is nothing in the argument that would warrant the inference that the creator of the universe is perfectly intelligent or perfectly good. Indeed, Hume argues that there is nothing there that would justify thinking even that there is just one deity: "what shadow of an argument... can you produce from your hypothesis to prove the unity of the Deity?

Animals, plants, humans, are far from perfect, nothing indicates that an all powerful god created them.

All of our machinery is made out of and uses the machinery of nature. Since our machines are machinery of nature, nature is machinery. Are you trying to say that our machines haven't been designed? You are getting a little nutty.

God is exceedingly complex, to use our understanding. You are simply avoiding the devil, Satan, when you suggest that God didn't make things perfect. Besides, imperfection suggests that things don't work, yet even life and death work very well. Things are not destroyed. they work. God's pefection has overcome the imperfection of the devil.

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January 24, 2018, 05:27:45 PM
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if you do not believe that means you're crazy,

Right.

You are crazy if you believe all the repeated observations by millions of people of evolution.
You are crazy if you ignore magical fairy tales.

You idiots need to find your own forum.  :/

All you are trying to do is suggest that creation and evolution are the same thing. You are the one who is a little (more than a little) crazy.

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January 24, 2018, 05:33:07 PM
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God is just something that many people can't even imagine that's why they have no proofs about exisiting of him or her or maybe even it. People are strange.

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for the moment I have not been able to explain because the science that I have not completed the goal there
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