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August 21, 2014, 03:00:59 PM
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

How much "free" power are you generating? I see that nobody asked you about your power circuit capacity which is strange.

Enough to power more then 1000 Antminer S1 Smiley

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August 21, 2014, 08:19:12 PM
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

How much "free" power are you generating? I see that nobody asked you about your power circuit capacity which is strange.

Enough to power more then 1000 Antminer S1 Smiley

Then start building yourself a room where you can have some kind of wind tunnel to evacuate the air as fast as possible with some big ass vents and start mining!

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August 21, 2014, 11:15:20 PM
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

How much "free" power are you generating? I see that nobody asked you about your power circuit capacity which is strange.

Enough to power more then 1000 Antminer S1 Smiley

Then start building yourself a room where you can have some kind of wind tunnel to evacuate the air as fast as possible with some big ass vents and start mining!

Do you have any suggestions on how to build a wind tunnel?

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August 21, 2014, 11:52:15 PM
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

How much "free" power are you generating? I see that nobody asked you about your power circuit capacity which is strange.

Enough to power more then 1000 Antminer S1 Smiley

Then start building yourself a room where you can have some kind of wind tunnel to evacuate the air as fast as possible with some big ass vents and start mining!

Do you have any suggestions on how to build a wind tunnel?

Really?

Big industrial fans blowing cool air from outside into the room and big industrial fans exhausting hot air from inside the room to the outside.

If you actually have the excess power that you say you do, then getting rid of the heat build-up is going to be your biggest challenge.
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August 22, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
Last edit: August 22, 2014, 03:09:56 AM by gallery2000
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

How much "free" power are you generating? I see that nobody asked you about your power circuit capacity which is strange.

Enough to power more then 1000 Antminer S1 Smiley

Then start building yourself a room where you can have some kind of wind tunnel to evacuate the air as fast as possible with some big ass vents and start mining!

Do you have any suggestions on how to build a wind tunnel?


Really?

Big industrial fans blowing cool air from outside into the room and big industrial fans exhausting hot air from inside the room to the outside.

If you actually have the excess power that you say you do, then getting rid of the heat build-up is going to be your biggest challenge.

Is there a problem when more air is blowing out of the building than into the building?

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August 22, 2014, 02:30:21 AM
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

How much "free" power are you generating? I see that nobody asked you about your power circuit capacity which is strange.

Enough to power more then 1000 Antminer S1 Smiley

Then start building yourself a room where you can have some kind of wind tunnel to evacuate the air as fast as possible with some big ass vents and start mining!

Do you have any suggestions on how to build a wind tunnel?


Really?

Big industrial fans blowing cool air from outside into the room and big industrial fans exhausting hot air from inside the room to the outside.

If you actually have the excess power that you say you do, then getting rid of the heat build-up is going to be your biggest challenge.

Is there a problem when more air is blowing out of the building then into the building?

Hell if I know. Maybe the walls or roof will collapse, lol.
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August 22, 2014, 03:20:31 AM
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

How much "free" power are you generating? I see that nobody asked you about your power circuit capacity which is strange.

Enough to power more then 1000 Antminer S1 Smiley

Then start building yourself a room where you can have some kind of wind tunnel to evacuate the air as fast as possible with some big ass vents and start mining!

Do you have any suggestions on how to build a wind tunnel?


Really?

Big industrial fans blowing cool air from outside into the room and big industrial fans exhausting hot air from inside the room to the outside.

If you actually have the excess power that you say you do, then getting rid of the heat build-up is going to be your biggest challenge.

Is there a problem when more air is blowing out of the building than into the building?

There's no reason to reinvent the wheel.  We have pretty much every possible iteration of mining setup represented here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.0

Yes it's a lot of reading and pics - but if you can't devote 2-3 hours to planning you should be allowed anywhere near 1000 S1s.
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August 22, 2014, 07:51:40 AM
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Okey, i'm going to start with 10x S1 Antminers for 1000USD and buy the upgrade kit as soon as possible.
Starting to build My mining rig inside a 5x5 meters industrial freezer with ventilation, that should keep the cooling on a steady level

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August 22, 2014, 09:08:24 AM
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Okey, i'm going to start with 10x S1 Antminers for 1000USD and buy the upgrade kit as soon as possible.
Starting to build My mining rig inside a 5x5 meters industrial freezer with ventilation, that should keep the cooling on a steady level

Why not start with 10 S3 Antminers? No need to hassle with the upgrade kits afterwards.

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August 22, 2014, 11:12:01 AM
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If you are putting the miners in an industrial freezer, and using the freezer to do the cooling, you will need lots of cooling capacity.

It is not the size of the freezer that is important, rather the cooling capacity.  Ten S1 or S3 miners will require about 3,600W (one ton) of cooling. 100 S1 or S3 would require 10 ton of cooling.

It would be of interest to know the cooling capacity of your freezer if you intend using the freezer cooling capacity.  For example is it a 3 ton, 10 ton or 30 ton freezer.

If you intend using ambient air cooling you will need very good air flows, especially if you are likely to have high outside air temperatures.  A freezer is not the ideal location for ambient air cooling due to the insulation.  

Also S1 miners are almost obsolete even if electricity is free.  They are only rated at 180/200GHash and each S1 could only expect to return $100 to $200 over its remaining lifetime even with free electricity.  

You need 20 or so S1s miners to equal the hash rates of one Neptune or SP30 miner. The S1 miners would also draw far more power than the equivalent S3, Neptune or SP30 miners.

As mentioned earlier the S3 is to be preferred - or S1 to S3 upgrade applied.
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August 22, 2014, 11:27:12 AM
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Okey, i'm going to start with 10x S1 Antminers for 1000USD and buy the upgrade kit as soon as possible.
Starting to build My mining rig inside a 5x5 meters industrial freezer with ventilation, that should keep the cooling on a steady level

Why not start with 10 S3 Antminers? No need to hassle with the upgrade kits afterwards.

i can't get my hands on S3 Antminers until 20 sep for some reason. :/

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August 22, 2014, 11:35:52 AM
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If you are putting the miners in an industrial freezer, and using the freezer to do the cooling, you will need lots of cooling capacity.

It is not the size of the freezer that is important, rather the cooling capacity.  Ten S1 or S3 miners will require about 3,600 kW (one ton) of cooling.

It would be of interest to know the cooling capacity of you freezer if you intend using the freezer cooling capacity.  For example is it a 3 ton, 10 ton or 30 ton freezer.

Also S1 miners are almost obsolete even if electricity is free.  They are only rated at 180/200GHash and each S1 could only expect to return $100 to $200 over its remaining lifetime even with free electricity.  You need 20 or so S1s miners to equal the hash rates of one Neptune or SP30 miner. The S1 miners would also draw far more power than the equivalent S3, Neptune or SP30 miners.

As mentioned earlier the S3 is to be preferred - or S1 to S3 upgrade applied.

its a 40 Ton freezer, it was used to store lab results before, its a ''walk in freezer'' with lots of storage, i can go as low as -60• C.
i was thinking if getting some Neptune's first but i thought i'd take a look on how the S1 doing before i go for something bigger.

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August 22, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
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If you are putting the miners in an industrial freezer, and using the freezer to do the cooling, you will need lots of cooling capacity.

It is not the size of the freezer that is important, rather the cooling capacity.  Ten S1 or S3 miners will require about 3,600 kW (one ton) of cooling.

It would be of interest to know the cooling capacity of you freezer if you intend using the freezer cooling capacity.  For example is it a 3 ton, 10 ton or 30 ton freezer.

Also S1 miners are almost obsolete even if electricity is free.  They are only rated at 180/200GHash and each S1 could only expect to return $100 to $200 over its remaining lifetime even with free electricity.  You need 20 or so S1s miners to equal the hash rates of one Neptune or SP30 miner. The S1 miners would also draw far more power than the equivalent S3, Neptune or SP30 miners.

As mentioned earlier the S3 is to be preferred - or S1 to S3 upgrade applied.

its a 40 Ton freezer, it was used to store lab results before, its a ''walk in freezer'' with lots of storage, i can go as low as -60• C.
i was thinking if getting some Neptune's first but i thought i'd take a look on how the S1 doing before i go for something bigger.

If you have access to an industrial freezer and you're going to put miners in there you're doing it all wrong.  Rent out the freezer, take the proceeds and buy BTC.  You'll end up with more BTC and won't be slaughtering the environment.  Putting 4KW of heat inside an enclosed shell is not the best idea - certainly not for energy efficiency.
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August 22, 2014, 02:17:26 PM
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It is not wrong to put inside the freezer electronic equipment like an ASIC  ??

Let assume that your ASICs will work properly into the freezer, you will not spend more energy with the freezer than with a wind tunnel ?


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August 22, 2014, 03:07:12 PM
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If you are putting the miners in an industrial freezer, and using the freezer to do the cooling, you will need lots of cooling capacity.

It is not the size of the freezer that is important, rather the cooling capacity.  Ten S1 or S3 miners will require about 3,600 kW (one ton) of cooling.

It would be of interest to know the cooling capacity of you freezer if you intend using the freezer cooling capacity.  For example is it a 3 ton, 10 ton or 30 ton freezer.

Also S1 miners are almost obsolete even if electricity is free.  They are only rated at 180/200GHash and each S1 could only expect to return $100 to $200 over its remaining lifetime even with free electricity.  You need 20 or so S1s miners to equal the hash rates of one Neptune or SP30 miner. The S1 miners would also draw far more power than the equivalent S3, Neptune or SP30 miners.

As mentioned earlier the S3 is to be preferred - or S1 to S3 upgrade applied.

its a 40 Ton freezer, it was used to store lab results before, its a ''walk in freezer'' with lots of storage, i can go as low as -60• C.
i was thinking if getting some Neptune's first but i thought i'd take a look on how the S1 doing before i go for something bigger.

If you have access to an industrial freezer and you're going to put miners in there you're doing it all wrong.  Rent out the freezer, take the proceeds and buy BTC.  You'll end up with more BTC and won't be slaughtering the environment.  Putting 4KW of heat inside an enclosed shell is not the best idea - certainly not for energy efficiency.

i don't think any1 would want to Rent my Freezer, i don' even think its Legal since its been used for lab resualts hehe.
if i produce my own Power (Which i do) then i won't be slaughtering the environment,.
the freezer won't have to be clossed, as i said there is a ventelation in it and lots of Holes which can be open/clossed (used for gas to burn the rom in case of an emergency) which i can put all my ventilation in. there's also a HUGE ''fan'' at the top of it which was used for sucking up the smoke afterwards, the fan is still there and working to (its a 1x1M fan). i could also use Liquid cooling if needed on the miners.

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August 22, 2014, 03:09:16 PM
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It is not wrong to put inside the freezer electronic equipment like an ASIC  ??

Let assume that your ASICs will work properly into the freezer, you will not spend more energy with the freezer than with a wind tunnel ?



no i won't, even if the wind turbine would fail to produce enough energy then then i always have my Soal panals Smiley

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August 23, 2014, 06:11:52 AM
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40 tons of cooling is nice.  I guess you could support 100 to 150 Kilowatts of mining power.  That would give you a good mining setup.  You could possibly run up to 400 S1s or S3s or eventually 30 or 50 SP30s or Neptunes.

As you have free electricity you could be where old mining hardware goes to die.  Even S1s could be a viable choice if you can get them really cheaply - the main cost is likely to be the S1/S3 power supplies. 

With more modern mining systems you could have 100 Terahash or more.  Nice.
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August 26, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
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I would mine with some Antminer S3's if I were you.
As he have already enough amount of power available he could mine out a huge amount of btc with a big profitability
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August 26, 2014, 05:17:06 PM
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Hello! I have My own power source (solar and wind) should I start mining?
And if so what should my first purchase be?

More profitable to offer hosting service to other miners than do the mining yourself.

Remember there is price fluctuation risk.
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August 26, 2014, 06:26:06 PM
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no i won't, even if the wind turbine would fail to produce enough energy then then i always have my Soal panals Smiley

That's gotta be one massive turbine!

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