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August 19, 2014, 04:19:28 AM
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Banks are afraid Bitcoin

like first peoples were afraid of fire



Think yourself, nobody control all nodes, it is chaos, nobody control dev team - it is opensource.

Are you sure? I think this is from the BitLicense proposal:

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August 19, 2014, 04:30:19 AM
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I came to think about a speculative conspiracy theory. The BitLicense will allow banks to quickly accept and adopt bitcoins. And now the banksters are pancaking the bitcoin price so they can easily buy the majority of the bitcoin market (corner the market). And after that stunt the bitcoin price will skyrocket. Checkmate.
This is not true, however the opposite is true. The regulations will make the exchanges act more like banks. Banks will not be able to invest their own money into bitcoin as this would more or less be speculation which the banks are not able to do with their own money because of frank dodd regulations on bank capital.

In theory we could see banks start to accept bitcoin deposits and create bitcoin exchanges that compete with existing ones but I would doubt that they would attempt this and even if they did I don't see it catching on as most people who use/trade bitcoin are generally not fans of big banks.

"an Act to promote the financial stability of the United States by improving accountability and transparency in the financial system, to end "too big to fail", to protect the American taxpayer by ending bailouts, to protect consumers from abusive financial services practices, and for other purposes." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodd%E2%80%93Frank_Wall_Street_Reform_and_Consumer_Protection_Act

The Dodd–Frank act seems to be about accountability and transparency, not about stopping banks from trading with currencies. Or?

And think about it: Will the average people trust having their bitcoins in a bank or in a MtGox? Most people would not be able to securely manage their own cold store, and would have their bitcoins in ordinary bank accounts.
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August 19, 2014, 04:53:41 AM
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I found the official BitLicense document:

"Section 200.3 License
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(c) Exemption from licensing requirements. The following Persons are exempt from the licensing
requirements otherwise applicable under this Part:

 (1) Persons that are chartered under the New York Banking Law to conduct exchange services and are approved by the superintendent to engage in Virtual Currency Business Activity; and

 (2) merchants and consumers that utilize Virtual Currency solely for the purchase or sale of goods or services." -- http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf

So the hard rules will only be for banking competitors, not for banks or ordinary merchants.
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August 19, 2014, 05:17:46 AM
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Will the international bankers launch a BanksterCoin or something like that as a competitor to bitcoin? Maybe not anytime soon, because they would have to get the government regulations changed so they would be allowed to do that. That would take several years!

The EU can launch a eurocoin, and that would be good I think, but again that would take several years to implement. Bitcoin has a head start and already today a huge momentum.

So at least in the near future bitcoin will likely be the dominating cryptocurrency.
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August 19, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
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A real threat is not from bankers, but exchanges

Exchanges are like banks, they have large amount of fiat money and bitcoin reserve. So they could create money and bitcoin out of thin air by using fractional reserve practice

For example, an exchange holding 100K coins could in practice manipulate 1 million coins by borrowing those coins again and again many times without being discovered (maximum 10% withdraw request from customers). And all those coins can be dumped to the market to crash the price to double digits, because no one would anticipate that amount of sell pressure from a single exchange (almost 1/10 of all coins). And after that many people will be selling their coins due to lost confidence in bitcoin (If they withdraw, then the exchange will have huge problem to deal with, but who would withdraw bitcoin in a crashing market?)

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August 19, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
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Speaking of conspiracies, here's some funny vid I discovered yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSScnOwL8tc


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