Julian Assange Announces Plan to Leave Ecuadorian Embassy 'Soon'

[Lethn]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

[blablahblah]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

[wasserman99]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

I am not sure about the fact that the women withdrew their allegations, but I do remember that when the allegations were made that they were generally not credible. IIRC most people throughout the world thought the charges were politically based because the person they were against had exposed what the US was doing to civilians in Iraq.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.

[itsAj]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

These allegations were apparently not very credible. I think it is quite the coincidence that he had this allegations against him right as he was able to leak massive amounts of intelligence information that was of interest to the world but made the US look bad.

[DrG]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

You don't get out much do you.  Let's try a country like Singapore.  Burma.  Belize.  China.  Russia.  Mexico.

USA looks like a Sandals vacation resort compared to most anywhere else in the world.

[shogdite]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

One of the ladies in question just so happened to work for a certain CIA backed anti-Castro organization. To me it's pretty obvious that he was setup with a honeypot, a textbook CIA character assasination.

[wasserman99]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

One of the ladies in question just so happened to work for a certain CIA backed anti-Castro organization. To me it's pretty obvious that he was setup with a honeypot, a textbook CIA character assasination.

I would not at all be surprised. The timing of the accusations are suspicious at best. This is also not the kind of accusations that people are generally hunted for across the world. 

[Swordsoffreedom]

To my knowledge Julian Assange is still in the embassy
I wonder if that declaration was to throw people off or something but at the least hes making the UK foot the bill for keeping watch on him.
Assange stakeout has cost nearly $12 million

http://rt.com/news/178276-assange-police-cost-embassy/
 Assange has been detained without charge for 1,337 days – and 777 of those days have been spent in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, according to the latest WikiLeaks statement.

Meanwhile, the price tag for guarding Assange hit over seven million British pounds (US$11.8 million) early on Wednesday, according to govwaste.co.uk counter.

Officers have been staking out the embassy around the clock since June 2012, with the cost to the London taxpayers surpassing $15,000 per day.

It was l337 a while ago and 777 in custody
That was a weird for the way the numbers came out.

[itsAj]

I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.

I would doubt that he made a plea deal. One possibility is that he he announced his pending departure to see how cars leaving the embassy and and planes leaving the country are looked at by the local government. Ecuador is one of the countries that Snowden wanted to exile to but was unable to make it, so it may be a distraction for him to be able to leave.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.

I would doubt that he made a plea deal. One possibility is that he he announced his pending departure to see how cars leaving the embassy and and planes leaving the country are looked at by the local government. Ecuador is one of the countries that Snowden wanted to exile to but was unable to make it, so it may be a distraction for him to be able to leave.

That may actually be correct, if his group is monitoring the traffic and movements of people who enter and leave the embassy and what they do when they monitor them, then it makes sense to use a good sample size and then determine which method is the most efficient one to escape.

That or Assange builds a tunnel sneaks into the sewage system comes out outside the embassy and then takes a ride safely away from there with no one the wiser.
Sounds like The Great Escape ^_^.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_%28film%29

[itsAj]

I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.

I would doubt that he made a plea deal. One possibility is that he he announced his pending departure to see how cars leaving the embassy and and planes leaving the country are looked at by the local government. Ecuador is one of the countries that Snowden wanted to exile to but was unable to make it, so it may be a distraction for him to be able to leave.

That may actually be correct, if his group is monitoring the traffic and movements of people who enter and leave the embassy and what they do when they monitor them, then it makes sense to use a good sample size and then determine which method is the most efficient one to escape.

That or Assange builds a tunnel sneaks into the sewage system comes out outside the embassy and then takes a ride safely away from there with no one the wiser.
Sounds like The Great Escape ^_^.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_%28film%29

I would doubt that he would try to escape via tunnel systems as this would not allow him to use the cover of the ecuador government. If he were to be captured while traveling with an official convoy then the ecuador government could say that his arrest would be the same as the government arresting one of their diplomats while he would be more or less on his own if he tried to escape via tunnel systems.

[Swordsoffreedom]

That may actually be correct, if his group is monitoring the traffic and movements of people who enter and leave the embassy and what they do when they monitor them, then it makes sense to use a good sample size and then determine which method is the most efficient one to escape.

That or Assange builds a tunnel sneaks into the sewage system comes out outside the embassy and then takes a ride safely away from there with no one the wiser.
Sounds like The Great Escape ^_^.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_%28film%29

I would doubt that he would try to escape via tunnel systems as this would not allow him to use the cover of the ecuador government. If he were to be captured while traveling with an official convoy then the ecuador government could say that his arrest would be the same as the government arresting one of their diplomats while he would be more or less on his own if he tried to escape via tunnel systems.

Well I was thinking if he could get away in an Ecuadorian Convoy waiting outside the building then use the tunnel systems to get into a diplomatic limo it would work, the way they would determine the best way to approach it is by monitoring the monitors and their patterns when vehicles come and go to the embassy, simply put if they are monitoring the movements of the embassy but not what is occurring out of it then it makes more sense to do a transfer outside even if near the embassy.

That said if he wants to escape or leave the embassy some time soon he will have to take the risk even if its with a diplomatic convoy of getting arrested, either that or surrender and make a plea deal.
Its a tricky situation though for him since he could just stay in the embassy but how does he get out of it.

[DooMAD]

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

You don't get out much do you.  Let's try a country like Singapore.  Burma.  Belize.  China.  Russia.  Mexico.

USA looks like a Sandals vacation resort compared to most anywhere else in the world.

Snowden is still in Russia, so clearly he feels that they're less of a threat than the US.  It's not like these people are being paranoid, they have justifiable concerns for their well-being against a government with a clear agenda at hand.  These people are reporting things the world needs to know about and that otherwise wouldn't have seen the light of day.  I would have thought a forum based on cryptography of all things would be more supportive with regards to the importance of how such mass surveillance affects us all.

[itsAj]

That may actually be correct, if his group is monitoring the traffic and movements of people who enter and leave the embassy and what they do when they monitor them, then it makes sense to use a good sample size and then determine which method is the most efficient one to escape.

That or Assange builds a tunnel sneaks into the sewage system comes out outside the embassy and then takes a ride safely away from there with no one the wiser.
Sounds like The Great Escape ^_^.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_%28film%29

I would doubt that he would try to escape via tunnel systems as this would not allow him to use the cover of the ecuador government. If he were to be captured while traveling with an official convoy then the ecuador government could say that his arrest would be the same as the government arresting one of their diplomats while he would be more or less on his own if he tried to escape via tunnel systems.

Well I was thinking if he could get away in an Ecuadorian Convoy waiting outside the building then use the tunnel systems to get into a diplomatic limo it would work, the way they would determine the best way to approach it is by monitoring the monitors and their patterns when vehicles come and go to the embassy, simply put if they are monitoring the movements of the embassy but not what is occurring out of it then it makes more sense to do a transfer outside even if near the embassy.

That said if he wants to escape or leave the embassy some time soon he will have to take the risk even if its with a diplomatic convoy of getting arrested, either that or surrender and make a plea deal.
Its a tricky situation though for him since he could just stay in the embassy but how does he get out of it.

I am not 100% sure as to how the embassy is setup but if it would be possible for him to get into a car with heavily tinted windows without anyone seeing that he got into the car then he should be able to stay in the car as long as he needs to and would be safer in a diplomatic convoy then on his own in a network of tunnels. It would be much easier to monitor a tunnel system then it would the garage of a foreign embassy.

[Swordsoffreedom]

That may actually be correct, if his group is monitoring the traffic and movements of people who enter and leave the embassy and what they do when they monitor them, then it makes sense to use a good sample size and then determine which method is the most efficient one to escape.

That or Assange builds a tunnel sneaks into the sewage system comes out outside the embassy and then takes a ride safely away from there with no one the wiser.
Sounds like The Great Escape ^_^.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_%28film%29

I would doubt that he would try to escape via tunnel systems as this would not allow him to use the cover of the ecuador government. If he were to be captured while traveling with an official convoy then the ecuador government could say that his arrest would be the same as the government arresting one of their diplomats while he would be more or less on his own if he tried to escape via tunnel systems.

Well I was thinking if he could get away in an Ecuadorian Convoy waiting outside the building then use the tunnel systems to get into a diplomatic limo it would work, the way they would determine the best way to approach it is by monitoring the monitors and their patterns when vehicles come and go to the embassy, simply put if they are monitoring the movements of the embassy but not what is occurring out of it then it makes more sense to do a transfer outside even if near the embassy.

That said if he wants to escape or leave the embassy some time soon he will have to take the risk even if its with a diplomatic convoy of getting arrested, either that or surrender and make a plea deal.
Its a tricky situation though for him since he could just stay in the embassy but how does he get out of it.

I am not 100% sure as to how the embassy is setup but if it would be possible for him to get into a car with heavily tinted windows without anyone seeing that he got into the car then he should be able to stay in the car as long as he needs to and would be safer in a diplomatic convoy then on his own in a network of tunnels. It would be much easier to monitor a tunnel system then it would the garage of a foreign embassy.

Good question itsAj if I could get a copy of the embassy's design and building plans I could give you an answer of how that would work in practice, also I would learn how likely it could be executed in reality. But I don't think you can access that info unless you go to the London building planners and ask them for a copy of the drafts yourself in person. (awkward conversation unless you bluff that your a reporter and want to describe his living conditions and the embassy's design for the media before being told its classified to the public but if that works (Just say your the dailymail they do enough of those types of articles ^_^*)

But since you mentioned logistics apparently their is a loading bay for Harrods right outside the embassy, he could load himself onto in a box then someone could drive him out as cargo so I'm sure there are a lot of ways to sneak out of the embassy just as long as he can get past those cops.

The magazine quotes the 42-year-old as saying: “I couldn’t sleep because of the Harrods loading bay and the cops always doing shift changes outside. And the quietest room is the women’s bathroom, the only room that’s easy to sleep in. So I thought I’d try and somehow get hold of it and renovate it. Eventually, somewhat reluctantly, the staff relented. They ripped out the toilet. They’ve been very generous.”

He is sheltering in the embassy building behind Harrods from attempts to extradite him to Sweden to face allegations of sexual offences.
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/who-would-live-in-an-embassy-like-this-julian-assange-invites-the-cameras-into-ecuadors-west-london-premises-8744428.html

[hackjack]

His admitting leaving the Ecuadorean Embassy soon could be a ruse and he already has left the embassy. He probably has had a facial make-over looking like an embassy Embassy staffer.

[Lethn]

His admitting leaving the Ecuadorean Embassy soon could be a ruse and he already has left the embassy. He probably has had a facial make-over looking like an embassy Embassy staffer.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually the case, I think this announcement is too convenient for the UK, he's not a dumbass

[Bonam]

All he has to do is leave the embassy on a diplomatic helicopter.

[DooMAD]

All he has to do is leave the embassy on a diplomatic helicopter.

And when the helicopter lands?  Can't think of too many places where they wouldn't be able to arrest him as soon as he gets out of the helicopter.  Honestly don't know if it's possible to make it to international waters on a normal fuel tank.  Anyone care to do some research?