Something better than Operation Fabulous?

[TheBitMan]

I could make some simple cheap graphics if who ever ends up with the site remodels it...

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[BioMike]

I'm also open for a community sell. Respected people grouping together and run it together (more as a business, then you would have different roles, e.g. server admins, site designers, support desk, people handling "the finances"), maybe issue shares on GLBSE to fund it (I would even buy a few of those). Such group would have my preference.

Some of the server aspects:
PHP (OO programmed with a clear separation of user facing scripts and backend classes to increase security)
Firebird as backend database (not a common choice, but had my reasons for that)
PHP and Python running in the backend as daemon for various tasks
Bitcoind running on the server for pay out with a minimum of the funds.

The services are running on a VPS from kalyhost (not everybody might like them, but I never had any problems with them).
The OS is Gentoo Linux, using a hardened AMD64 profile, software is up to date.
I'm using IPtables to shield off services that should not be exposed to everybody.

As you see security was always a main point for me (Operation Fabulous got started at the time when people were hacking into various bitcoin related sites), the community was already facing with sites disappearing and people losing money (and the trust in those sites).

The money turn over fluctuates a bit over time. Because I keep most money off-server I normally can do with about 20 BTC on the server for a few days, but I've had times when this would be gone in just 2 days. Counting up the first few rates from https://operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=list current pay out would be around 4 BTC/day.

[payb.tc]

somewhat relevant? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75177.0

[phelix]

I'm also open for a community sell. Respected people grouping together and run it together (more as a business, then you would have different roles, e.g. server admins, site designers, support desk, people handling "the finances"), maybe issue shares on GLBSE to fund it (I would even buy a few of those). Such group would have my preference.
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that would be great if it worked.

https://operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=list

never saw this list before. it's much better than the other lists. you should present it more prominently

[BioMike]

I'm also open for a community sell. Respected people grouping together and run it together (more as a business, then you would have different roles, e.g. server admins, site designers, support desk, people handling "the finances"), maybe issue shares on GLBSE to fund it (I would even buy a few of those). Such group would have my preference.
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that would be great if it worked.

edd has been in contact with me on that, to see what can be arranged. If you would like to join, contact him.

https://operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=list

never saw this list before. it's much better than the other lists. you should present it more prominently

It's part of a new set of pages that allows a new way of bidding on a site and allows the pubishers to direct potential advertisers to more info about advertising on their site. I haven't had the time to integrate it in the site yet, but I'll try to do it this week (no guarantees).

somewhat relevant? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75177.0

I told edd already to maybe contact that person, maybe he wants to join in.

[kiba]

Hi. I am worked on something for operation fabulous. Hope to see my change on the operationfabulous site soon. 

[BioMike]

https://operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=list

never saw this list before. it's much better than the other lists. you should present it more prominently

It's part of a new set of pages that allows a new way of bidding on a site and allows the pubishers to direct potential advertisers to more info about advertising on their site. I haven't had the time to integrate it in the site yet, but I'll try to do it this week (no guarantees).

Ok, it is somewhat integrated now, including the pie chart code that Kiba wrote (do note that it can take up to 30 seconds to load the data from the database if there is nothing in the cache). Click on the title of the site to go to the site specific part, from there you can get a lot more information about the site and place/edit/delete bids.

[kiba]

Cool! It's always nice to see my work live.

* kiba hopes for more work for kiba from operationfabulous

[Coinabul]

At the risk of getting ahead of myself I will have a new service announced in the next week or so on bitcoinsense.com and bitcoinadvertising.com to address these concerns I hope people will be happy with.

Yes, yes, yes please!

[marcus_of_augustus]

BioMike I sent you a PM regards Operation Fabulous.

[Andrew Bitcoiner]

This is my new service: http://bitcoinsense.com/ will be officially announced in a couple days when a few minor improvements get added.

[HostFat]

You have many adf.ly links in your sign.
Are you able to make an adf.ly clone but with Bitcoin?

[Daily Anarchist]

Will it support images?

[Andrew Bitcoiner]

You have many adf.ly links in your sign.
Are you able to make an adf.ly clone but with Bitcoin?

Sounds like a neat idea but I can't at this time.

Will it support images?

No text only at this time.

[Andrew Bitcoiner]

I have since rebranded my site as http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/

[phelix]

I have since rebranded my site as http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/

did google complain or did you just have second thoughts?

[Daily Anarchist]

Can't wait for the images to go up!

Even if OpFab goes the way of the dodo, BioMike has helped spearhead something that is desperately needed in the Bitcoin community. Competition is a good thing and bitcoinadvertisers looks like it's ready to take the lead. I'm happy with that as a publisher who feels his banners are being underutilized. Also, the name bitcoinadvertisers is likely to get a much better pagerank than Operation Fabulous, which doesn't have any logical connection to bitcoin advertising, and is also plagued with much higher pageranks to the television show, or whatever it is, Operation Fabulous.

[rjk]

For the record I am one of the people whom (since last September if I recall) have been trying to buy OpFab.  

Since that was not going to happen back then or more recently, I started my own service which now has 87 publishers displaying ads greater then 200k times a day and 45 ads.  I have made periodic inquiries to the OpFab owner to see about purchasing the site or domain and all those offers have been rejected.  I would like to see the idea of OpFab become successful since I fell in love with it in 2011 but I see no indication that BiokMike is going to let go of this service in its present form and is wasting everybody's time.  The last blog update showed that BioMike reduced the publisher payout to .50btc which means nobody was getting prior to then and .50 is likely preventing all but the click fraudsters getting pay outs.

This comment in particular irks me:

I'm also open for a community sell. Respected people grouping together and run it together (more as a business, then you would have different roles, e.g. server admins, site designers, support desk, people handling "the finances"), maybe issue shares on GLBSE to fund it (I would even buy a few of those). Such group would have my preference.

Selling to a committee is another huge business mistake and I doubt that OpFab gets the revenue to handle the salary requirements of a single person let alone be held responsible to share holders who would rightly expect to see a return on their investment.  Anyone who does buy OpFab will be buying a half built platform with a complete design overhaul needed and I am guessing the backend as well.  

I have the technical experts and business experience to make that happen but at the same I increasingly do not need to do so and anyone who does buy this will not only start off in the red but have massive amounts of work and time to generate an income pushing out any profitability into several months or years away from squeezing a dime out of it.  So I guess what I am getting at is buyer beware, if this would be a bad business acquisition for me of all people it is likely one for you as well.

Probably within a week I am gong to be launching image banners on my service which will allow publishers and advertisers the advertising choices they want.  

In my opinion this service should either change hands now or shutdown.  Delaying the inevitable is absolutely wasting the communities time and the goodwill of your customers.

So you toss up a new advertising site without even bothering to iron out the bugs, and now you are trying to scare away all the other existing sites. Classy.

[senbonzakura]

i was looking for something else other than opfab, thanks for this new service

[Kris]

For people in this thread, I would like to say that I made ThroughAds for anyone wishing to advertise with images. With Andrew Bitcoiner words, I am making a big shi* on the pot...