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Author Topic: ⭐ Crypto.Games ⭐ Low House Edge ⭐ Wagering Contest ⭐ Daily Challenges ⭐  (Read 343481 times)
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August 30, 2016, 01:47:47 PM
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Our investors were notified on August 16th about upcoming change:
Because we want long term investors, additional divest fees will be introduced for short term investments:
- On investments shorter than 7 days, we will charge a 0.3% fee for divests
- On investments shorter than 14 days, we will charge a 0.2% fee for divests
- On investments shorter than 21 days, we will charge a 0.1% fee for divests
- On investments longer than 21 days, we will not charge you any fee for divests

This rule will come in place on September 1st 2016. On that day, website will be unavailable for couple of hours because of scheduled maintenance.

This is the type ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes, and other shady operations pull...trying to give people reasons not to withdraw their money. You guys have a 2 BTC max win anyway....why do you need that much of a bigger bankroll?

I want to point out that you CAN withdraw at any time. Just pay a penalty if it's early. And the 3 week wait to not be penalized shouldn't be that bad. If you're investing in anything like this, it should be long-term regardless.

Yes, but considering they're already taking 20% in fees + their cut, it just doesn't really seem fair or justified to me, nor does it feel like is actually a valid reason
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August 30, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
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Yes, but considering they're already taking 20% in fees + their cut, it just doesn't really seem fair or justified to me, nor does it feel like is actually a valid reason
So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.

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August 30, 2016, 02:11:00 PM
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Yes, but considering they're already taking 20% in fees + their cut, it just doesn't really seem fair or justified to me, nor does it feel like is actually a valid reason
So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.

I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.q
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August 30, 2016, 03:02:02 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

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August 30, 2016, 03:20:52 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
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August 30, 2016, 05:19:39 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
And from 500 btc, almost 200 btc is from me and Joter85 (owners). Not really sure what you're trying to say or where's the problem? If you want short term investment, pay additional fee, if you're having 21+ days old investment, divesting is free. We're having cold wallet adresses public (they're listed in FAQ section).

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August 30, 2016, 05:44:31 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
And from 500 btc, almost 200 btc is from me and Joter85 (owners). Not really sure what you're trying to say or where's the problem? If you want short term investment, pay additional fee, if you're having 21+ days old investment, divesting is free. We're having cold wallet adresses public (they're listed in FAQ section).

Cold Wallets don't prove anything except that you still control the money. It doesn't provide any assurance except that it won't be stolen by someone outside of the casino...

You still haven't provided a good reason you need such a huge bankroll with such a low minimum win
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August 30, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
And from 500 btc, almost 200 btc is from me and Joter85 (owners). Not really sure what you're trying to say or where's the problem? If you want short term investment, pay additional fee, if you're having 21+ days old investment, divesting is free. We're having cold wallet adresses public (they're listed in FAQ section).

Cold Wallets don't prove anything except that you still control the money. It doesn't provide any assurance except that it won't be stolen by someone outside of the casino...

You still haven't provided a good reason you need such a huge bankroll with such a low minimum win
Better have only 0.5% maximum win of bankroll than 10% or even 90% with kelly system. It's called safe bankroll management.

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August 30, 2016, 08:02:39 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
And from 500 btc, almost 200 btc is from me and Joter85 (owners). Not really sure what you're trying to say or where's the problem? If you want short term investment, pay additional fee, if you're having 21+ days old investment, divesting is free. We're having cold wallet adresses public (they're listed in FAQ section).

Cold Wallets don't prove anything except that you still control the money. It doesn't provide any assurance except that it won't be stolen by someone outside of the casino...

You still haven't provided a good reason you need such a huge bankroll with such a low minimum win
Better have only 0.5% maximum win of bankroll than 10% or even 90% with kelly system. It's called safe bankroll management.

My point is then, if investors should feel safe because of that low win, and your bankroll is safe because of it, then why do you need to charge fees for early divestment? Even fiat investments don't usually charge these unless negotiated in with specific clients beforehand....
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August 30, 2016, 08:22:46 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
And from 500 btc, almost 200 btc is from me and Joter85 (owners). Not really sure what you're trying to say or where's the problem? If you want short term investment, pay additional fee, if you're having 21+ days old investment, divesting is free. We're having cold wallet adresses public (they're listed in FAQ section).

Cold Wallets don't prove anything except that you still control the money. It doesn't provide any assurance except that it won't be stolen by someone outside of the casino...

You still haven't provided a good reason you need such a huge bankroll with such a low minimum win
Better have only 0.5% maximum win of bankroll than 10% or even 90% with kelly system. It's called safe bankroll management.

My point is then, if investors should feel safe because of that low win, and your bankroll is safe because of it, then why do you need to charge fees for early divestment? Even fiat investments don't usually charge these unless negotiated in with specific clients beforehand....
As said, we're looking for long term investors. Short term investors will think twice if it's worth divesting when someone starts winning.

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August 30, 2016, 08:42:47 PM
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
And from 500 btc, almost 200 btc is from me and Joter85 (owners). Not really sure what you're trying to say or where's the problem? If you want short term investment, pay additional fee, if you're having 21+ days old investment, divesting is free. We're having cold wallet adresses public (they're listed in FAQ section).

Cold Wallets don't prove anything except that you still control the money. It doesn't provide any assurance except that it won't be stolen by someone outside of the casino...

You still haven't provided a good reason you need such a huge bankroll with such a low minimum win
Better have only 0.5% maximum win of bankroll than 10% or even 90% with kelly system. It's called safe bankroll management.

My point is then, if investors should feel safe because of that low win, and your bankroll is safe because of it, then why do you need to charge fees for early divestment? Even fiat investments don't usually charge these unless negotiated in with specific clients beforehand....
As said, we're looking for long term investors. Short term investors will think twice if it's worth divesting when someone starts winning.

Again....why? You have more than enough bankroll to cover your max win - which by the way has only increased by 100% even though your bankroll has increased by 500+%
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August 31, 2016, 06:21:38 AM
Last edit: August 31, 2016, 06:40:32 AM by joter85
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So don't invest? Nobody is forced to.
I don't. I'm just pointing out that this is a classic warning sign of fraud or theft. I'll let people make up their own minds.
But unlike "fraud or theft", there's game play backing the investors profit (or their loses), you can go to the site and see it yourself.
I wasn't supporting this change at first, but I understand the reasons and I prefer it over higher fees for all investors.
As for making up my own mind, I'm an investor for over a year now, and never worried a second Wink

In theory every BTC casino that's every gone under or run off with investor money has had game play backing it. 500+ BTC is a lot of money, a lot more than the site will bring in in profit for a good while.
And from 500 btc, almost 200 btc is from me and Joter85 (owners). Not really sure what you're trying to say or where's the problem? If you want short term investment, pay additional fee, if you're having 21+ days old investment, divesting is free. We're having cold wallet adresses public (they're listed in FAQ section).

Cold Wallets don't prove anything except that you still control the money. It doesn't provide any assurance except that it won't be stolen by someone outside of the casino...

You still haven't provided a good reason you need such a huge bankroll with such a low minimum win
Better have only 0.5% maximum win of bankroll than 10% or even 90% with kelly system. It's called safe bankroll management.

My point is then, if investors should feel safe because of that low win, and your bankroll is safe because of it, then why do you need to charge fees for early divestment? Even fiat investments don't usually charge these unless negotiated in with specific clients beforehand....
As said, we're looking for long term investors. Short term investors will think twice if it's worth divesting when someone starts winning.

Again....why? You have more than enough bankroll to cover your max win - which by the way has only increased by 100% even though your bankroll has increased by 500+%

We noticed two types of current investment system abuse:
 - investors are farming faucet and betting on high payout, when they win they divest one of their investments and invest back
 - investors see high roller winning and they divest it before next calculation happens (once an hour), then they invest it back when calculation is done

This are main reasons we are adding fee system.

P.S. Max win increased to 2,5 BTC (0,5% of bankroll)

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August 31, 2016, 06:44:33 AM
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How to hit the jackpot? Any details?
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August 31, 2016, 07:04:43 AM
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Longest steak without Jackpot on dice game, that's over 42 million bets! Current Jackpot is worth 1.787 BTC!

Catch the winning spirit!

How to hit the jackpot? Any details?

You can win the Jackpot if your dice bet meets ALL of the following criteria:
- Your dice roll is 7.777 or 77.777
- Your dice roll is a winning roll
- Your bet size is at least 0.0000005 BTC, 0.005 DASH, 50 DOGE, 0.0025 ETH, 1 GRC, 0.005 LTC, 0.05 PPC or 50 PlayMoney
- The last two digits of your Dice BetID are 77

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August 31, 2016, 07:28:47 AM
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Longest steak without Jackpot on dice game, that's over 42 million bets! Current Jackpot is worth 1.787 BTC!

Catch the winning spirit!

How to hit the jackpot? Any details?

You can win the Jackpot if your dice bet meets ALL of the following criteria:
- Your dice roll is 7.777 or 77.777
- Your dice roll is a winning roll
- Your bet size is at least 0.0000005 BTC, 0.005 DASH, 50 DOGE, 0.0025 ETH, 1 GRC, 0.005 LTC, 0.05 PPC or 50 PlayMoney
- The last two digits of your Dice BetID are 77

Wow, you mean even if I'm playing in currency of PlayMoney I can won the Jackpot?

All the time I use playmoney coin just to enjoy the crypto-games, but now knowing this Playmoney can be a ticket for jackpot. It's time to go and play cryto-games.net using playmoney Cheesy

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August 31, 2016, 07:52:37 AM
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Longest steak without Jackpot on dice game, that's over 42 million bets! Current Jackpot is worth 1.787 BTC!

Catch the winning spirit!

How to hit the jackpot? Any details?

You can win the Jackpot if your dice bet meets ALL of the following criteria:
- Your dice roll is 7.777 or 77.777
- Your dice roll is a winning roll
- Your bet size is at least 0.0000005 BTC, 0.005 DASH, 50 DOGE, 0.0025 ETH, 1 GRC, 0.005 LTC, 0.05 PPC or 50 PlayMoney
- The last two digits of your Dice BetID are 77

Wow, you mean even if I'm playing in currency of PlayMoney I can won the Jackpot?

All the time I use playmoney coin just to enjoy the crypto-games, but now knowing this Playmoney can be a ticket for jackpot. It's time to go and play cryto-games.net using playmoney Cheesy

Yes, but with playmoney bets you'll receive also playmoney jackpot. Each coin has its own jackpot balance Wink

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August 31, 2016, 07:59:04 AM
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Longest steak without Jackpot on dice game, that's over 42 million bets! Current Jackpot is worth 1.787 BTC!

Catch the winning spirit!

How to hit the jackpot? Any details?

You can win the Jackpot if your dice bet meets ALL of the following criteria:
- Your dice roll is 7.777 or 77.777
- Your dice roll is a winning roll
- Your bet size is at least 0.0000005 BTC, 0.005 DASH, 50 DOGE, 0.0025 ETH, 1 GRC, 0.005 LTC, 0.05 PPC or 50 PlayMoney
- The last two digits of your Dice BetID are 77

No wonder over 42 million bets, no one can win it, because it is too tough to win. The probability is very tiny, who can calculate it?

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August 31, 2016, 08:10:34 AM
 #1538

Longest steak without Jackpot on dice game, that's over 42 million bets! Current Jackpot is worth 1.787 BTC!

Catch the winning spirit!

How to hit the jackpot? Any details?

You can win the Jackpot if your dice bet meets ALL of the following criteria:
- Your dice roll is 7.777 or 77.777
- Your dice roll is a winning roll
- Your bet size is at least 0.0000005 BTC, 0.005 DASH, 50 DOGE, 0.0025 ETH, 1 GRC, 0.005 LTC, 0.05 PPC or 50 PlayMoney
- The last two digits of your Dice BetID are 77

No wonder over 42 million bets, no one can win it, because it is too tough to win. The probability is very tiny, who can calculate it?
No one can win it? Till now 45 jackpots was hit, and the probability is 1:5 million Wink  It's called jackpot for a reason.

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August 31, 2016, 08:17:28 AM
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So if i roll ..

77.77 and my bet id is xxxxx77

And bet sized .00001 BTC

I will win the jackpot? i mean 1.7 btc  Grin

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August 31, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
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So if i roll ..

77.77 and my bet id is xxxxx77

And bet sized .00001 BTC

I will win the jackpot? i mean 1.7 btc  Grin
If you roll 77.777 or 7.777

You will receive 100% of the Jackpot if you wager above 0.005 BTC, 0.2 ETH, 0.5 LTC, 0.5 DASH, 10000 DOGE, 500 GRC, 5 PPC or 50000 PlayMoney. If you wager below this amount, you will receive a proportional share of the Jackpot with the minimum set to 1%.

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