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November 08, 2016, 10:25:26 PM
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Buy orders back above 3,000 on Poloniex for the first time in a while...

Above 3,500 now and growing trade volume too.
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November 08, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
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First everyone should read wolong's book Smiley - 9 pages

XMR is example of beautifull P&D -> some people pumped Monero as high as they possible and sell to sheep - are selling from ATH.
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November 08, 2016, 10:45:02 PM
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First everyone should read wolong's book Smiley - 9 pages

XMR is example of beautifull P&D -> some people pumped Monero as high as they possible and sell to sheep - are selling from ATH.

9 pages?  May I suggest you read this thread, 1262 pages.  You might get a better perspective on things.  I read the entire thread and it's great.
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November 08, 2016, 11:12:38 PM
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First everyone should read wolong's book Smiley - 9 pages

XMR is example of beautifull P&D -> some people pumped Monero as high as they possible and sell to sheep - are selling from ATH.

9 pages?  May I suggest you read this thread, 1262 pages.  You might get a better perspective on things.  I read the entire thread and it's great.

Wow, time flies.  Just jumped back to page 1 and thread was only created on August 2014, and I apparently posted on the first page.  So I've probably read all / most of those 1262 pages as well.  Amazing I still have any friends and my wife...
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November 08, 2016, 11:57:01 PM
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Amazing I still have any friends and my wife...


LOL if you haven't already lost your friends and your wife over your cryptocurrency obsession... yer doin' it wrong  Tongue  Grin  Cheesy

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November 09, 2016, 01:39:46 AM
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First everyone should read wolong's book Smiley - 9 pages

XMR is example of beautifull P&D -> some people pumped Monero as high as they possible and sell to sheep - are selling from ATH.

9 pages?  May I suggest you read this thread, 1262 pages.  You might get a better perspective on things.  I read the entire thread and it's great.

Wow, time flies.  Just jumped back to page 1 and thread was only created on August 2014, and I apparently posted on the first page.  So I've probably read all / most of those 1262 pages as well.  Amazing I still have any friends and my wife...

Don't forget there was another (unmoderated) XMR Speculation thread before this one, before it was overrun by trolls leading up to the BCX fiasco. It's amazing how little XMR trolling there is these days. Even the reverse trolling is comparatively non-existent, I guess because whoever was behind it has given up. Not complaining.  Smiley

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November 09, 2016, 01:56:32 AM
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First everyone should read wolong's book Smiley - 9 pages

XMR is example of beautifull P&D -> some people pumped Monero as high as they possible and sell to sheep - are selling from ATH.

9 pages?  May I suggest you read this thread, 1262 pages.  You might get a better perspective on things.  I read the entire thread and it's great.

Wow, time flies.  Just jumped back to page 1 and thread was only created on August 2014, and I apparently posted on the first page.  So I've probably read all / most of those 1262 pages as well.  Amazing I still have any friends and my wife...

Don't forget there was another (unmoderated) XMR Speculation thread before this one, before it was overrun by trolls leading up to the BCX fiasco. It's amazing how little XMR trolling there is these days. Even the reverse trolling is comparatively non-existent, I guess because whoever was behind it has given up. Not complaining.  Smiley

My guess is they accumulated some. Smiley

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November 09, 2016, 02:33:01 AM
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It is two months since the high of the pump and I expected traders to move on to a new coin of the month by now. The fact that Monero is still hanging around .01 means it really has legs.

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November 09, 2016, 03:00:18 AM
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It is two months since the high of the pump and I expected traders to move on to a new coin of the month by now. The fact that Monero is still hanging around .01 means it really has legs.

Also trade volume is on a great level
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November 09, 2016, 03:57:39 AM
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Jesus I can't believe trump is winning. Americans are the most retarded morons to walk the face of this planet. Sad

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November 09, 2016, 04:31:01 AM
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Jesus I can't believe trump is winning. Americans are the most retarded morons to walk the face of this planet. Sad

From a purely nationalistic self-interested perspective, Brexit seems more retarded than Trump.

Regardless, both are national votes of no-confidence that have meaning, no matter how retarded in the short term.
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November 09, 2016, 05:17:09 AM
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Jesus I can't believe trump is winning. Americans are the most retarded morons to walk the face of this planet. Sad

It doesn't matter who of this puppets pushes the botton and it doesn't matter from which political party they are from. The US will always fight it's wars and messing things up just to get some resources  Grin Roll Eyes

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November 09, 2016, 08:45:26 AM
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About 12-14 more days, and then capitulation near 0.0044. When that has happened, I'll tell if it was the last chance to buy low, or whether there'll be a double bottom later, confirming the new trading zone to be above 0.0042.

- Accumulate near 0.006 if you are totally out now
- Do not touch 0.005-0.006 (falling knife)
- Buy at the capitulation area in 0.004-0.005
- If it dips below 0.004, margin long

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November 09, 2016, 08:47:46 AM
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- if it stays up here, say goodbye to the train, at least you got a good story to tell  Grin


there are tons of shorts open, once the false illusion of enough xmr liquidity goes away (yes it is an illusion), some will panic, creating a spiral to the upside.

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November 09, 2016, 08:55:00 AM
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About 12-14 more days, and then capitulation near 0.0044. When that has happened, I'll tell if it was the last chance to buy low, or whether there'll be a double bottom later, confirming the new trading zone to be above 0.0042.

- Accumulate near 0.006 if you are totally out now
- Do not touch 0.005-0.006 (falling knife)
- Buy at the capitulation area in 0.004-0.005
- If it dips below 0.004, margin long

Why all the trading advice all of a sudden?

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November 09, 2016, 09:08:32 AM
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About 12-14 more days, and then capitulation near 0.0044.

You told us not to buy XMR shortly before it went up around 25%. "Luckily" I was in.
Thx for advice but I will follow my own.
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November 09, 2016, 09:09:27 AM
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It is bordering insanity to buy now. We are right at resistance and the VWAs are coming to meet us from above.

If you are out, a much better bet is buy when the resistance is cleared (let's say 0.012) or we descend to the last week lows (0.0058) or the support (0.0042).

I don't usually consider shorting XMR but this is one of the rare occasions.



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November 09, 2016, 10:07:00 AM
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About 12-14 more days, and then capitulation near 0.0044. When that has happened, I'll tell if it was the last chance to buy low, or whether there'll be a double bottom later, confirming the new trading zone to be above 0.0042.

- Accumulate near 0.006 if you are totally out now
- Do not touch 0.005-0.006 (falling knife)
- Buy at the capitulation area in 0.004-0.005
- If it dips below 0.004, margin long

Why all the trading advice all of a sudden?

Good question! Quo bono?

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November 09, 2016, 10:46:59 AM
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Only BTC moving up can influence the XMR price for the short term, but it seems even the Trump victory won`t bring the BTC further up from this overreaction of the markets. As XMR has bottomed out, sudden good news (exchanges or DNMs adding XMR) and things to come (Jaxx, GUI, Ring CT) are more likely to bring the price higher up.
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Why all the trading advice all of a sudden?

TL;DR: I just lost my family and fled my country. So I am finally able to speak up!



During his teens, Risto Pietilä was among the top of the youth in his country. He attended the historical Hämeenlinnan lyseo high school, the alma mater of President J. K. Paasikivi and composer Jean Sibelius. In the 1990s, Pietilä was selected to several youth exchange programs etc., in Italy, Japan, Thailand and Australia. (This was extremely rare for anyone in Finland in the 1990s.)

Pietilä ranked in top-4 in the national Chemistry competition all of the 3 years he attended, won the Mental arithmetics competition all the 3 years he attended, and was twice a Chemistry olympiad delegate, once scoring a bronze medal. He graduated with 5 laudatur.

After serving 9 months compulsory conscription in voluntary special forces unit Pori Brigade, Rapid Deployment Force (combined field, APC driver, UN and Nato military/"peacekeeper" training), with the most "kuntoisuusloma" (extracurricular leave granted based on personal achievements) in his unit, he continued his studies in Helsinki University of Technology, department of Industrial Engineering and Management.

He rejected the grant from Helsinki School of Economics, but chose to major in Economics nevertheless in the HUT (now: Aalto University). He participated in Mensa IQ test in 2003, scoring 167 points. Soon afterwards, he became a conscientious-objector-in-reserve, and has not participated in Nato military exercises since 2000 (South Norway).

His first company was founded at the age of merely 20, after less than a year of studies. The company, Jamera Networks (nowadays simply Jamera) reached the operational capability of 80 simultaneous buy/sell teams deployable in any location in the country, this in addition to about 10 fixed locations. Pietilä's involvement discontinued in a corporate ouster in 2003. The company was hailed as being the most profitable in (the county of) Central Finland in ~2011.

He decided to take it easy for some time, got married, and devised other business ideas, including the first-in-the-world system of car rental based on immediate car takeover upon need (no bookings).

In 2006 Pietilä saw the financial crisis approaching, and paid airtime to get his voice heard through a new national alternative TV-channel "Heaven TV7" of which he had previously cornered 1.5% of ownership. The 3-hour live show became so successful that it was re-broadcast several times and Pietilä has since been featured both in radio and TV in "crisis watch" programs. He has been featured in every Finnish TV channel plus whole-page in the largest newspaper.

The same year Pietilä began dealing in physical investment metals. The business got bigger only in 2008 after some free publicity from the government of Finland. Connected to these activities, Pietilä has co-owned and co-operated hopea.fi (2006-2013), Scenario Investments Oy (2006-2010), Eesti Investeerimishõbe OÜ (2009-), Silverbank (2010-2016), Crypto Holding (2010-). In total, more than 100 people have invested in Pietilä's companies over 15 years, and they have had more than 100,000 clients. The market cap of the companies is 1...a few MEUR each.

Knowing about cryptocurrencies since the beginning, Pietilä has selected Bitcoin, Monero and Crypto Kingdom to be his picks. They are massively on the black among the thousands of scams. Pietilä's trading skills include Bitcoin price manipulation until 2013, and Monero manipulation until 2015. (Please note that merely having the resources to manipulate such global currencies does not mean it has actually happened). He is usually counted among TOP-100 in worldwide cryptocurrency scene. Only if the evaluator's whole career coincides with Pietilä being largely out of the limelight, she may make a mistake on this one.

Over a full 20 years, Pietilä has written in BBSs, messaging boards, blogs and related media, more than 10,000 posts. Bitcointalk alone is more than 7,000 posts. Pietilä is holiday-proficient in 8 languages and writes academically in English and occasionally Finnish (the latter being his native language).

Some extreme actions have been directed against Pietilä by the rulers of Finland, including:
- hijack, sabotage and ouster from his first company (2003)
- armed confiscation of all his assets followed by a sea of illegal procedure (2008)
- nationwide media campaign for character assassination (2011)
- extrajudicial incarceration in mental facility and forced medication until suicidal (2013)
- fled for his life from Finland and left behind family who wanted medication to happen again (2016)

It is because of these events that Pietilä now considers that he has been declared as a public enemy. In actions of self-defence, Pietilä has supported numerous anti-government/anti-nato/anti-deep state groups since 2004 with sums of up to 7-figures.
 
Also he has designed and made:
- a 100% physical silver backed currency system Silverbank,
- an unregulated and indestructible free trade/exchange platform Crypto Kingdom, and
- is currently executing Kansanmarkka, a debt-free basic income currency, designed to oust Euro from Finland (and the world) by voluntary choice by the people. Participation in Kansanmarkka is free, you actually get paid.

He received his first official death threat 3 weeks ago. He has bought a large, secure, castle-like manor compound in rural Estonia and will continue the fight to liberate Finland (and the world) from there, unfettered by family.

The family's best response to heroic activism - which is very sad to reveal - has for a decade been: "check your head". Allegations to question his mental stability, Pietilä generally labels as gaslighting. This did not prevent him from "checking his head" by his weekly psychotherapist, who just 48 hours ago, after Pietilä's stresses of fleeing the country and losing family, gave him unconditional green light.

People are eager to believe things that interact with their own "reality". So if they are delusional, they are more likely to interpret others' actions as delusional also. If they are freedom activists, they are more likely to side with the activist.


In spite of the challenging tone of the post, the loss of two my own small and dear children to the hands of delusional people, hurts me very much. I do not hold my breath that this post would make them realise their erroneous, delusional thinking. In all likelihood it is doing the opposite. For me, however, holding the truth back in an attempt to pacify the idiots and the insane, has just ended.

I am not completely safe despite the disclosure. Common sense tells you that a man like me would be mad to drop his guard, no matter how well-armed in his own castle. I am choosing to write this instead of hiding it, because unlike during the previous assaults on my property, liberty and life in 2013, 2011, 2008 and 2003, now the time seems to be about ripe for turning some tables.

I had bet for Clinton to win, not that I supported her or believed she would gain the majority of votes, but just because establishment wants their martial law and can rig the election to ensure it. This is truly an interesting time to make happen.  Smiley

ADD: Sorry my ex-family members that I repeatedly call you idiots, insane, and delusional. But you have to understand that it is exactly what you are. To handle your own cognitive dissonance, you have tortured me with the same allegations ever since 2008 the minimum. Despite all that domestic violence, I have achieved what I have achieved. I have no intention to ever allow people in my life again, who do not acknowledge my achievements and/or label me as crazy. You know why? Because being crazy is an opinion, but I am not stupid. That is a fact.

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