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November 25, 2017, 01:07:00 PM
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It's funny how much the new troll reminds me of primer, same defensive accusation of a circlejerk--not that that is an original sentiment, but it's funny how quick and whiney he is about it.



"When someone says something that we don't agree with he is clearly a troll"

I understand there is a large sum of money at stake here but please, you sound like petulant children ..

Relax, primer, no reason to get defensive.

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November 25, 2017, 01:52:21 PM
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Rolling along in the channel atmo

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November 25, 2017, 02:58:17 PM
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Yes, projects such as monero, which provide anonymity to gain momentum. People are waiting for 200 dollars soon think that by the end of 2018, the capitalization of the crypto market will reach $ 1 trillion. If all the money the cue ball will not go think that monero may as well as dash $ 500 cost by the end of 2018. Dash however will be more expensive than the 1000...
What does "cue ball" mean?  Russian speakers use that a lot.  I keep seeing it in the auto-translation of the comments on bitcoin vanga's blog.
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November 25, 2017, 03:07:44 PM
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Yes, projects such as monero, which provide anonymity to gain momentum. People are waiting for 200 dollars soon think that by the end of 2018, the capitalization of the crypto market will reach $ 1 trillion. If all the money the cue ball will not go think that monero may as well as dash $ 500 cost by the end of 2018. Dash however will be more expensive than the 1000...
What does "cue ball" mean?  Russian speakers use that a lot.  I keep seeing it in the auto-translation of the comments on bitcoin vanga's blog.

That's the problem of psychology when it comes to crypto. People think, Bitcoin is too expensive, Dash is too expensive, and now even Monero is too expensive. They think owning 0.5 Monero is less likely to be profitable than owning 1,000 Siacoins, for example.

But if you bought Bitcoin, Dash and Monero, at whatever fraction you could afford, you'd have made more money in the past 4 or 5 months than most of the alts out there. This price psychology is something difficult to get past, but maybe that is a good problem for Monero to have. Monero all the way, and yes, I think $200 by end of 2018 is more than enough to make me smile.

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November 25, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
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Yes, projects such as monero, which provide anonymity to gain momentum. People are waiting for 200 dollars soon think that by the end of 2018, the capitalization of the crypto market will reach $ 1 trillion. If all the money the cue ball will not go think that monero may as well as dash $ 500 cost by the end of 2018. Dash however will be more expensive than the 1000...
What does "cue ball" mean?  Russian speakers use that a lot.  I keep seeing it in the auto-translation of the comments on bitcoin vanga's blog.

It indicates the word bitcoin, and in Russian it reads bit-ok.

I wonder where KiXiNiT knows the ramp? And does he know that when there was a ramp to anybody, it never occurred to him to use monero.

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November 25, 2017, 04:50:09 PM
Last edit: November 25, 2017, 05:03:59 PM by Hueristic
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That is why  J P Morgan likes it.  They are not interested in protecting your privacy from the oligarchs.  They are the oligarchs.

All these n00bs don't care about anything but shilling thier bag, they aren't here for idealistic purposes. The ironic thing is most of the sig scammers and airdrop beggars are from such low income countries that are under the Obligaries thumb even worse than first wirld western countries and could not only turn a profit by just acting in concert and supporting a coin like Monero that will help them get out from under that thumb but will bring them more profit in the long run. But it seems that the vast majority of the human race in general are just too short sighted to act in their own self interest when instead they can take a quick minor profit instead. We live in a world of fools that think their actions don't have consequences. simple proof of that is Trump and climate change deniers in this country.


And what about the next good entry point? i´ve been buying small amounts at whatever price. But in a few days i might have a bit more to get in so any ideias on the best price? will it go sub 100 again? ot those days are over?
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Yes it will, set you order and wait. Patience is a virtue.


The resistance can be broken by sufficient amount and combination of circle jerking and buy/sells to each others.
Bytecoin is no good. Everybody says it is a bad coin, don't buy it. Buy instead ripple, monero and bitcoin gold.
Can't believe you placed Monero between Ripple and Bitcoin gold. I would have banned you permanently for this mortal sin if I had any powers here.

This kind of post just makes it too easy to weed out the shills and ignore them.

I certainly do not have enough time for something to read all 1750 pages, and the desire to find out what is the same in a monero, and why such a huge interest among speculators to this coin, that in the speculation section about a coin of 1,750 pages? Is it really really profitable to trade a monero? Share the guys)

Time is money what are you willing to pay for someone to do your homework for you? Or do you feel their time is worthless and less important then yours?


XMR is one of my favourite coins, not only the chart looks promising, but especially it is an Anonymous coin.

i believe that is THE most important characteristic of this coin. political and financial uncertainty in incoming years and government, are gonna push toward a more anonymous and private system. and lots of people will need more and more hiding from financial globalist.

No need to be a conspiracy theorist to see how important the market of "anonimity" really is .

short term monero may take some corrections. but long term, i wouldnt be surprised if it reaches 1k$.


This is a pretty sane analysis from a n00b account. Welcome, you sir (madam?) are a breath of freash air. Smiley

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November 25, 2017, 06:41:47 PM
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+ 100% to the price, from November 1, not bad ... but to buy yourself a bit of a monero, I think we should wait for a rollback of at least $ 120. Or do you think that the price of $ 120 in the near future we will not see?

Can you suggest in which areas this coin is actually applicable? Or while the main area of application is speculation?) Grin

I think we will rather see XMR over 200 USD then around 120 USD. Coinbase will introduce 2018 new coins, my bet is on XMR and maybe IOTA.
Honestly, what else is left? Small market cap coins? No. NEM, DASH, XRP? Or Bitconnect? lol NEO? Maybe.
If you go through all those available coins only those 2 remain as high probability for introduction into Coinbase.

XMR would be so available to people new to crypto and to bigger investors, as Coinbase wants to make the entrance for those buyers easier.

With the coming storm into crypto we could see XMR prices above 500 USD.

I highly doubt coinbase will touch XMR, it will turn into a money laundering off ramp and a legal/PR nightmare for coinbase if there is any hint they are involved with darknet money.

May even potentially speed up the scenario where Monero is banned from a government level.

That's dumb.

Monero makes their kyc obligations all the easier. And governments trying to ban any crypto gives it that more legitimacy (as well as being unenforceable).

Great counter point - "That's dumb" ..

And yes yes I've heard of the streisand effect in regard to crypto but you would have to be beyond-gone-delusional if you think it wouldn't be a massive blow to Monero (or cryptos in general) if they had to be taken off certain exchanges that operate in specific countries or couldn't be accepted anywhere or the worst of all not being able to cash it out in any legal way when lets face it I would say 80-90% of people in crypto are in it just to simply make a profit.

I did ask you before if you actually have any Monero.   You didn't answer.

But then it seems you only have this account to troll Monero (whoever you are), so I guess you aren't really interested in benefiting at all, simply just trolling.

Why?  Sociopathic tendencies?  Deep issues / resentments?  No friends?  Seriously, you should consider professional help.

Yes I own Monero, not sure how that's relevant.

But bringing up a very legitimate and plausible scenario now is considered trolling?

 I haven't talked about anal raping people or called them 'moroneros' like that past illiterate individual and I'm labelled the same as him and it means I have deep resentment issues ..? People in this thread sure are a touchy bunch.

I guess to fit in and appease the masses in here I should preach nothing but a great and prosperous future for Monero, $500! no wait $1000 by the end of the year!

OK, then you are not 'only a troll' and I am prepared to take that back.  When you did not answer about whether you even had Monero, I assumed you were just trolling.   We do get trolls here as you will have seen, just here to abuse.

Having Monero is relevant, of course it is.  

Raising worries is possible.  However (in spite of the current strength) you started by saying you thought we needed to roll back to $120, rather than going up to $200.  That is possible, but since then Monero has risen a lot in USD terms recently - and still is, it seems a little negative.  

Following this by asking for suggestions for 'areas where this coin is applicable'  (if you know anything about it) is not exactly an endearing comment either, nor is it a good question.  Of course Monero has applications - its superior privacy is its main USP!   If you don't think privacy and therefore fungibility is an issue, you are missing the point.

As for suggesting that it might (by being added on Coinbase) help 'speed up the scenario where Monero is banned from a government level'?

That is not a plausible scenario in most people's opinion here, so it is odd that you might raise this.  OK, no one can say Coinbase WILL add Monero, yet - but if they do add it, then the privacy is obviously not an issue for them, if they don't add Monero, then it's not an issue either.  Monero is not going to change. Why would it lead to a ban?  Monero is already on a lot of major exchanges so it is not seen as an issue by others.  If you sincerely think Monero may be banned (and that it is a problem if it is) then feel free to sell the XMR you have.

Yes, you can comment, and no - this place is not just an echo chamber.  However, we tend to be pro-Monero and have been attacked by all and sundry for a long time...  we now are starting to feel vindicated for our long-held belief in Monero.  Do you not expect us to defend it?

So if you want to raise issues, you can - but don't expect to be welcomed with open arms if your comments are objectively almost wholly negative.

Lighten up, you might find us far more welcoming.


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November 25, 2017, 08:55:54 PM
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The resistance can be broken by sufficient amount and combination of circle jerking and buy/sells to each others.
Bytecoin is no good. Everybody says it is a bad coin, don't buy it. Buy instead ripple, monero and bitcoin gold.
Can't believe you placed Monero between Ripple and Bitcoin gold. I would have banned you permanently for this mortal sin if I had any powers here.

No actually I am looking to pump and dump all of those coins.
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November 25, 2017, 09:08:38 PM
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The reason Monero can never be highly valued is because it doesn't scale.
Basically the same problem as Bitcoin, but even worse.

"But, but, we have second layer solutions."

Fine, go ahead with your second layer centralized off-chain solutions, *poof* gone is your privacy.
Wasn't this privacy why you wanted to use Monero in the first place?

I'm baffled by how very few people realize this. Then again people are only on these forums to make more fiat and have very little interest in the tech itself.

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November 25, 2017, 09:19:27 PM
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The reason Monero can never be highly valued is because it doesn't scale.
Basically the same problem as Bitcoin, but even worse.

"But, but, we have second layer solutions."

Fine, go ahead with your second layer centralized off-chain solutions, *poof* gone is your privacy.
Wasn't this privacy why you wanted to use Monero in the first place?

I'm baffled by how very few people realize this. Then again people are only on these forums to make more fiat and have very little interest in the tech itself.

Monero isn't trying to compete with visa. I'm baffled that people throw that expectation on Monero.

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November 25, 2017, 09:20:25 PM
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The reason Monero can never be highly valued is because it doesn't scale.
Basically the same problem as Bitcoin, but even worse.

"But, but, we have second layer solutions."

Fine, go ahead with your second layer centralized off-chain solutions, *poof* gone is your privacy.
Wasn't this privacy why you wanted to use Monero in the first place?

I'm baffled by how very few people realize this. Then again people are only on these forums to make more fiat and have very little interest in the tech itself.

Off-chain scaling does not mean poof goes privacy for Monero, how did you come to that conclusion?
Since on chain scaling clearly does not work, we can agree on that, what other choice is there?

I'm baffled by how people just spew nonsense without any merit

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it was late. previously, the elevation was. and need to rise further. open source has reduced the demand for. my year end goal is $ 200.  Cool
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The reason Monero can never be highly valued is because it doesn't scale.
Basically the same problem as Bitcoin, but even worse.

"But, but, we have second layer solutions."

Fine, go ahead with your second layer centralized off-chain solutions, *poof* gone is your privacy.
Wasn't this privacy why you wanted to use Monero in the first place?

I'm baffled by how very few people realize this. Then again people are only on these forums to make more fiat and have very little interest in the tech itself.

Off-chain scaling does not mean poof goes privacy for Monero, how did you come to that conclusion?

I'm baffled by how people just spew nonsense without any merit

I'd love to see second-layer solutions that preserve privacy at the level of Monero on-chain transactions. Links or details are very welcome.

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Difference is bitcoin is fully transparent. If the cost of privacy is extra storage then surely that's a decision for the consumer?


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Monero is now officially a Large Cap Cryptocurrency.  This is big news in my opinion. Since it validates the actual size of the market cap rather than just the rank.
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Difference is bitcoin is fully transparent. If the cost of privacy is extra storage then surely that's a decision for the consumer?


There's little choice when the system becomes unuseable for people to run in the first place.
Already it takes several days to do a full sync on a fast connection with proper hardware.

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November 25, 2017, 11:44:18 PM
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Difference is bitcoin is fully transparent. If the cost of privacy is extra storage then surely that's a decision for the consumer?


There's little choice when the system becomes unuseable for people to run in the first place.
Already it takes several days to do a full sync on a fast connection with proper hardware.
No, with proper hardware it takes hours.

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The reason Monero can never be highly valued is because it doesn't scale.
Basically the same problem as Bitcoin, but even worse.

"But, but, we have second layer solutions."

Fine, go ahead with your second layer centralized off-chain solutions, *poof* gone is your privacy.
Wasn't this privacy why you wanted to use Monero in the first place?

I'm baffled by how very few people realize this. Then again people are only on these forums to make more fiat and have very little interest in the tech itself.

Off-chain scaling does not mean poof goes privacy for Monero, how did you come to that conclusion?

I'm baffled by how people just spew nonsense without any merit

I'd love to see second-layer solutions that preserve privacy at the level of Monero on-chain transactions. Links or details are very welcome.

Hear hear.

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Difference is bitcoin is fully transparent. If the cost of privacy is extra storage then surely that's a decision for the consumer?


There's little choice when the system becomes unuseable for people to run in the first place.
Already it takes several days to do a full sync on a fast connection with proper hardware.

Still waiting for your academical research why even 1% or below inflation is too much for a coin to be any valuable... concern troll
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Difference is bitcoin is fully transparent. If the cost of privacy is extra storage then surely that's a decision for the consumer?


There's little choice when the system becomes unuseable for people to run in the first place.
Already it takes several days to do a full sync on a fast connection with proper hardware.

Still waiting for your academical research why even 1% or below inflation is too much for a coin to be any valuable... concern troll

I would bet my left something that more than 1% of the money supply will be accidentally lost each year. Not in the boating accident way. I mean for real. People dying without giving their keys to someone, user error, forgotten passwords, etc...

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