[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Globb0]

Some positive moves, still not topping in RSI terms

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[cAPSLOCK]

Unfortunately the volume is really low.  So I think this represents a lack of selling pressure more than anything else.  Miners are starting to hold XMR more.  I find it interesting that hashrate has been SO insanely stable since the last hard fork.



It clobbered the first area of resistance at .007-.0073.  And it has parked at around the second area of .0075.  The are i am looking at is ! .00775  If we are able to push decisively above that I am not sure there is a lot of technical resistance above it to even .01.

I just made all that crap up and typed it in here.  I have NO idea what I am talking about.  But I still wonder what is going to happen?!?

[Hueristic]

Some positive moves, still not topping in RSI terms

Unfortunately the volume is really low.  So I think this represents a lack of selling pressure more than anything else.  Miners are starting to hold XMR more.  I find it interesting that hashrate has been SO insanely stable since the last hard fork.



It clobbered the first area of resistance at .007-.0073.  And it has parked at around the second area of .0075.  The are i am looking at is ! .00775  If we are able to push decisively above that I am not sure there is a lot of technical resistance above it to even .01.

I just made all that crap up and typed it in here. I have NO idea what I am talking about.   But I still wonder what is going to happen?!?

I love seeing lines on charts and bullish talk and never check if the lines are correct nor the analysis as it never changes my buying strategy anyway.

But I still love it.

[cAPSLOCK]

Interesting privacy sector news...  What do you guys make of it?  (I wish people would stop quoting Vitalik though)

https://cointelegraph.com/news/researcher-breaks-grins-privacy-spending-just-60-per-week

[cAPSLOCK]

This is the actual article by the researcher:

https://medium.com/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

[Hueristic]

This is the actual article by the researcher:

https://medium.com/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

Well this is huge, time to warn the guys to dump.

[smooth]

This is the actual article by the researcher:

https://medium.com/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

Well this is huge, time to warn the guys to dump.

It's not that huge. The main thing that got deflated here was the hype about MW being a strong privacy technology when in fact it has always been weak privacy with some other benefits, and sober (non-hype) review and analysis has said that all along.

Then again, I guess given the level of hype with this one (more than most, to say the least), deflating that could indeed be seen as somewhat huge.

[birr]

This is the actual article by the researcher:

https://medium.com/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

Well this is huge, time to warn the guys to dump.

It's not that huge. The main thing that got deflated here was the hype about MW being a strong privacy technology when in fact it has always been weak privacy with some other benefits, and sober (non-hype) review and analysis has said that all along.

Then again, I guess given the level of hype with this one (more than most, to say the least), deflating that could indeed be seen as somewhat huge.

The  cut-throughs don't successfully eliminate data, because surely some entity logs all the transactions in real time and stores the data.  And there you have it, a full blockchain.

[tokeweed]

So what's all this talk about monero.org being hacked and some malware being downloaded from the site?  How does something like this happen to one of the biggest crypto projects in the space?

[Febo]

So what's all this talk about monero.org being hacked and some malware being downloaded from the site?  How does something like this happen to one of the biggest crypto projects in the space?

I just read about it. Apparently for 35 minutes download links on getmonero.org for new CLI were changed. https://np.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/dyfozs/security_warning_cli_binaries_available_on/

Locks are for honest people. They all can be broken. What is nice to see is that it was noticed in 35 minutes.


Oh and GRIN main trait is how scalable it is and not how unlikable are its transactions.  If you look here on this 14 videos of Breaking Monero. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsSYUeVwrHBnAUre2G_LYDsdo-tD0ov-y  And see how many possible attacks were/are to increase chances for attacker to link Monero transactions. Then you can imagine how many episodes can someone make about Grin.

[Globb0]

So what's all this talk about monero.org being hacked and some malware being downloaded from the site?  How does something like this happen to one of the biggest crypto projects in the space?

I just read about it. Apparently for 35 minutes download links on getmonero.org for new CLI were changed. https://np.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/dyfozs/security_warning_cli_binaries_available_on/

Locks are for honest people. They all can be broken. What is nice to see is that it was noticed in 35 minutes.

perhaps someone can automate a test from now on so it can be constantly checked

[cAPSLOCK]

So what's all this talk about monero.org being hacked and some malware being downloaded from the site?  How does something like this happen to one of the biggest crypto projects in the space?

I just read about it. Apparently for 35 minutes download links on getmonero.org for new CLI were changed. https://np.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/dyfozs/security_warning_cli_binaries_available_on/

Locks are for honest people. They all can be broken. What is nice to see is that it was noticed in 35 minutes.

perhaps someone can automate a test from now on so it can be constantly checked

It is also possible to use cryptography to accomplish this goal.

[Hueristic]

The  cut-throughs don't successfully eliminate data, because surely some entity logs all the transactions in real time and stores the data.  And there you have it, a full blockchain.

You can bet your Last Romero there are full logging sniffer nodes on this from day one.

[smooth]

So what's all this talk about monero.org being hacked and some malware being downloaded from the site?  How does something like this happen to one of the biggest crypto projects in the space?

I just read about it. Apparently for 35 minutes download links on getmonero.org for new CLI were changed. https://np.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/dyfozs/security_warning_cli_binaries_available_on/

Locks are for honest people. They all can be broken. What is nice to see is that it was noticed in 35 minutes.

perhaps someone can automate a test from now on so it can be constantly checked

It is also possible to use cryptography to accomplish this goal.

Well, yes, it was always the case that people could check signatures on the binaries they download and would have detected it immediately.

Perhaps that is the point you are making.

[NeironixNV]

Monero will have a hard fork soon, but something the price does not want to grow, the cue ball spoiled all plans. Who thinks that after a hard fork, Monero will show good growth or will the cue ball dictate their rules of the game? 

[gembitz]

So what's all this talk about monero.org being hacked and some malware being downloaded from the site?  How does something like this happen to one of the biggest crypto projects in the space?

you think the french government has not been monitoring this project?    lmfao ~ what part of honeypot are you confused about?

[cAPSLOCK]

Monero will have a hard fork soon, but something the price does not want to grow, the cue ball spoiled all plans. Who thinks that after a hard fork, Monero will show good growth or will the cue ball dictate their rules of the game? 

Masterluc, is that you?

But I do not think the hard fork will have much impact on Monero price.

[bitcoinvest]

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong  maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

[gembitz]

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong  maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

fluffy pony and his government yes men flexing their dominance over the codebase pure and simple.    reeee

[cAPSLOCK]

I'm sorry but these comments are generally not helpful and are also uninformed.

In reality we call these things network upgrades.

Monero is providing (as usual) a fairly valuable testbed for the entire crypto space in doing what we are doing here.

These forks are specifically aimed at ASIC resistance which is a hotly debated topic across the crypto space.  Personally I am in favor of selecting a commoditizable algorithm (such as SHA-3) but since the community is valuing trying one more shot at ASIC resistance then I will go along with them.

This fork has nothing to do with creating a new coin, or anything like that.  There are certainly arguments that can be made for and against this approach, but there are not currently being made above.

I suggest brushing up on the topic.  The github, or reddit are good places to learn about what we are doing and why.