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It can't be free as it will add additional expense for the masternode operators. Bandwidth isn't free.
Why is TOR, I2P and Johndonym free to use then? I can tell you why, the difference is, those people believe in Privacy, you guys only believe in $. |
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Lauda
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August 21, 2014, 10:13:58 PM |
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It can't be free as it will add additional expense for the masternode operators. Bandwidth isn't free.
Why is TOR, I2P and Johndonym free to use then? I can tell you why, the difference is, those people believe in Privacy, you guys only believe in $. Such services are too slow for my needs, no wonder that they are free. Try finding a good VPN that's free. You will be surprised. They are trying to minimize the costs of this service I don't see why people are complaining? |
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August 21, 2014, 10:15:25 PM |
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It can't be free as it will add additional expense for the masternode operators. Bandwidth isn't free.
Why is TOR, I2P and Johndonym free to use then? I can tell you why, the difference is, those people believe in Privacy, you guys only believe in $. Tor: Sponsors Active Sponsors in 2014: SRI International (2011-2014) US Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor (2013-2015)National Science Foundation joint with Georgia Tech and Princeton University (2012-2016) Radio Free Asia (2012-2014) An anonymous North American ISP (2009-present) The Ford Foundation (2013-2014) Google Summer of Code (2007-present) More than 4,300 personal donations from individuals like you (2006-present) |
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August 21, 2014, 10:31:14 PM |
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It can't be free as it will add additional expense for the masternode operators. Bandwidth isn't free.
Why is TOR, I2P and Johndonym free to use then? I can tell you why, the difference is, those people believe in Privacy, you guys only believe in $. Tor: Sponsors Active Sponsors in 2014: SRI International (2011-2014) US Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor (2013-2015)National Science Foundation joint with Georgia Tech and Princeton University (2012-2016) Radio Free Asia (2012-2014) An anonymous North American ISP (2009-present) The Ford Foundation (2013-2014) Google Summer of Code (2007-present) More than 4,300 personal donations from individuals like you (2006-present) I am talking about the nodes, i already mentioned you can´t outcompete a sponsored project like TOR on a technology level with thousands of helpers, thats just desillusional. A lot of nodes are run by volunteers, same as bitcoin nodes. This word is prolly new for you, google a bit for "volunteer". You might be shocked. To shock you even more, i am one of those: More than 4,300 personal donations from individuals like you (2006-present) |
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Brilliantrocket
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August 21, 2014, 10:46:58 PM |
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Yeah ok, those nodes that cost insane amounts of money are being run by altruistic privacy lovers. Sure, the project that received millions of dollars in government funding is run by volunteers. I'd like to purchase one gram of whatever it is that you are smoking.
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August 21, 2014, 10:49:14 PM |
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Are you really that stupid?
Tons of nodes are run by volunteers all over the world.
For example perfect-privacy runs exit nodes on all their vpns to support tor.
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Brilliantrocket
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August 21, 2014, 10:57:12 PM |
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Are you really that stupid?
Tons of nodes are run by volunteers all over the world.
For example perfect-privacy runs exit nodes on all their vpns to support tor.
Sure, a percentage of them are run by privacy advocates. But Tor is massive. The cost of running these nodes is not negligible. |
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ArticMine
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August 21, 2014, 11:06:12 PM |
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I voted 0.25 USD a day since this is a reasonable cost of a VPN. Nevertheless one needs to be convinced that is setup provides a level of anonymity at least equal to that of TOR with much better performance. Essentially a paid version of TOR. By the way I hold XMR as an investment and no DRK so this is strictly from the point of view of a comparison with TOR.
It cant, tor is only resonable secure because of its sheer amount of users. Not to mention that every exitnode can sniff traffic and tor itself makes more sense for internal onion browsing and not as a bridge to the www. then u need a browserbundle which is perfectly tight at security. And tons of tordir and bridgeservers, middlenodes etc. And the legal problems... makes sense to earn 20 cent a day and risk jail for that. And if u think you can make that better than a million funded and 10 year old project with a shitton of security experts you must be totally insane. Those selling the product need to make the case that the privacy and anonymity is at least equivalent to that of TOR. Furthermore the fact that the US Government has contributed to the development of a Free Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS) Project is irrelevant since by the very nature of FLOSS the source code is publicly available and subject to independent third party audit and review. |
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MasterMined710
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August 23, 2014, 04:29:41 PM |
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10-15 cents per day or $2-3 per month. not enough demand for tor in general to be a showstopper though.
i would instead focus more on a decentralized bitcoin to drk mixer that pays mn's. an in wallet drk/btc exchange and a plug-in type feature for integration with darkwallet and coinkite etc. a one button btc anonymization service with the fee's to masternodes.
both are cool but a mixer would be my focus first.
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Lauda
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August 23, 2014, 05:26:58 PM |
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10-15 cents per day or $2-3 per month. not enough demand for tor in general to be a showstopper though.
i would instead focus more on a decentralized bitcoin to drk mixer that pays mn's. an in wallet drk/btc exchange and a plug-in type feature for integration with darkwallet and coinkite etc. a one button btc anonymization service with the fee's to masternodes.
both are cool but a mixer would be my focus first.
What do you mean with 'decentralized bitcoin to drk mixer'? You could suggest this on the darkcoinforum I'm sure that the developers would be interested. There's no harm to paying $2-3 a month, that's pretty cheap. Or just make it free and have a paid tier once you reach a certain amount of bandwidth. |
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August 23, 2014, 05:33:13 PM |
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10-15 cents per day or $2-3 per month. not enough demand for tor in general to be a showstopper though.
i would instead focus more on a decentralized bitcoin to drk mixer that pays mn's. an in wallet drk/btc exchange and a plug-in type feature for integration with darkwallet and coinkite etc. a one button btc anonymization service with the fee's to masternodes.
both are cool but a mixer would be my focus first.
What do you mean with 'decentralized bitcoin to drk mixer'? You could suggest this on the darkcoinforum I'm sure that the developers would be interested. There's no harm to paying $2-3 a month, that's pretty cheap. Or just make it free and have a paid tier once you reach a certain amount of bandwidth. interesting idea |
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