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May 11, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
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Even the IBB loans to christians. (I think)

yes we lend to everyone, we don't hate atheism or any religion

don't forget over 99% of IBB shareholders are non-muslim
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May 11, 2012, 10:59:33 AM
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Just curious, what is his problem with altruism? I get everything else... but... altruism? really?

Sounds like a troll, tastes like a troll, it's a troll.
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May 14, 2012, 03:00:24 PM
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I don't care if an individual as of certain religion or views, as long as I don't have to take part in it. If I lend money to someone, I don't want them to *work for a purpose* for which I am against.

Why altruism is bad:
http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_nonfiction_the_virtue_of_selfishness

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May 14, 2012, 07:53:22 PM
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Will lend to someone who does not deal with any religious, socialist, or altruistic organization.
Only will lend to atheists and pro free market capitalism. Please describe how you plan to use the loan. You will have to return at interest.

What if someone were to seek a loan to help grow their Buddhist worker-owned cooperative that voluntarily refuses to buy products created by businesses which lobby for protectionist regulation? That's pretty close to being socialist, capitalist, altruistic, pro-free market, religious and atheist at the same time.

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May 14, 2012, 09:48:36 PM
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The villain here is not the business, it is the government that gives the lobbyist a special privilege. The government should refuse all lobbyist, then the situation would never occur. I wouldn't sponsor this Buddhist coop you describe. Refusing to do something is not work. I am only interested to support creative work, not refusal to do whatever. But I would pay an Indian outsourcing company for computer services, even if its members are religious in whatever ways.

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May 18, 2012, 12:16:06 AM
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The villain here is not the business, it is the government that gives the lobbyist a special privilege. The government should refuse all lobbyist, then the situation would never occur. I wouldn't sponsor this Buddhist coop you describe. Refusing to do something is not work. I am only interested to support creative work, not refusal to do whatever. But I would pay an Indian outsourcing company for computer services, even if its members are religious in whatever ways.

I think you misunderstood me. The coop can do whatever, it doesn't matter. It just refuses to deal with lobbyists as a business policy in the course of its actions.

> The villain here is not the business

It's not about who's the villain. It's about the fact that refusing to do business with such people is a pro-free market activity, much like teaching people not to go outside alone in a crime-ridden district in the middle of the night is an anti-crime activity even though it doesn't directly harm a single criminal.

Wow, never thought I would be arguing over what was essentially a joke  Smiley

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May 28, 2012, 07:09:12 AM
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Reporting that TiagoCMC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23749) payed me back the loan.

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May 28, 2012, 08:06:10 AM
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Reporting that TiagoCMC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23749) payed me back the loan.

Wrong thread...   Tongue

See this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76825.0

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