Moldova

[Balthazar]

Guys you need to learn how to be patient. Civilized person is actually definition of people who can tolerate mistakes and explain which is wrong and why, without falling into senseless accusations.

Maybe it's not disqualifing you but surely disqualify as "propaganda" the reporting of Russian media who to support Kremlin-side put togheter false facts as well as one-side voices and do partial reporting. Maybe You cannot recognize this because you're acritically accepting Russia's voice.

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Tipical reply from a authoritariann govt supporter who lack arguments to respond to a critic.

Typical attribute-projection reply by somebody, who lacks a basic knowledge of how to participate in the discussion.

[Nemo1024]

This got steam-rolled over on the previous page:

Some more in-depth background on Moldova, Pridnestrovie Moldovan Repoblic and situation there:

Moldova Explosion Coming 2: Coalition “Moldova’s Choice-Customs Union”
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/10/05/moldova-explosion-coming-2-coalition-moldovas-choice-customs-union/

Nobody here ask for one-sided propaganga (Moldovan, Romanian or Russian notwithstanding). Sadly the news outlet you put here are only russian so you're acting only as a Russian-side voice.

And the reason why I reference Russian outlets is because I don't read Romanian. And if I don't come with the Russian-speaking (not the same as Russian ethnic) side of the story, who will? Do you want it to be one-sided after all? To rephrase a famous British writer, "I speak for them that have no voices" (at least when it comes to picture-painting in the Western MSM). I'd be happy for niothor to come with the Romanian-side of the story.

Maybe You cannot recognize this because you're acritically accepting Russia's voice.

Yes, I am accepting Russia's voice, and am proud of it. As of late, it's been a tiny voice of reason in a roar of lies. And I am accepting that voice critically, after having weighed the alternatives on the scales of consciousness and integrity.

[Bitzkrieg]

Nobody here ask for one-sided propaganga (Moldovan, Romanian or Russian notwithstanding). Sadly the news outlet you put here are only russian so you're acting only as a Russian-side voice. Is public domain that a lot of problems in the Region (Ukraine, Moldova, Crimea, etc.) came from Russian-speaking people there receiving their news only/mostly from Russian Federation news outlets.

Correct.. Just be true to your words.

[samaricanin]

Why Moldova wants join the EU, Romania and Bulgaria are there, and are however poorest countries in EU.
EU is like Titanic.

[Nemo1024]

And a small aside about propaganda: anyone would be naïve to think that news outlets don't push some propaganda, be it Russian or American. The question is about proportions. During the Soviet era, the proportion of propaganda in Soviet media was close to 90%, while the Western media were more moderate: 50-60% judging from the old publications that I read. The picture has largely reversed now.

[BADecker]

Anything and everything to do with Russia, even if it has a look of beauty, is really the Russian government trying to take control of the whole world. It has always been this way since the Bolshevik revolution. And unless Russia is forced into common law, it will always be the same.

[samaricanin]

[BADecker]

Yes, let common law in America put ALL of the governments in the whole world, including the U.S. government, into their rightful places.

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm = Trinsey v. Pagliaro - Attorneys cannot "speak" in common law trials if the one who is bringing the suit orders it. Holding from Trinsey v. Pagliaro: "An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court. He is either an attorney or a witness."

[Souldream]

Remember, Poland has made its choice many centuries ago, in becoming the cannon fodder for the Western powers.

Poland make the good choice ...
You think really living with Food Tickets is nice ?
Go back 20 years  ... you are living nice in your seat to drop such non sense... ?
The main rules by the communist gouvernement was => Spy everyone , if you see something come to speak to me ... LoL
You are Sick man ... out of control and you are really out of reality !
Better then you go watching X-Files !


You like Russia ... ok go there and live there ...

What .. Russia is the 1st country for Drug use ... 1st country where alchool was forbiden because so much drunk people all over there ...

And the only One country where alchool "Vodka" is a country embleme ... LoL

I think you drank too much vodka !

[ElitistCA]

West behaves pretty dictatorial towards rest of the world..they are jsut working on having good image by demonizing those who stands in their way. Think for youself people. Crimea is rich compared to rest of bancrupt Ukraina, crimeas industries and economy is depentand on Russias. Ukraina is going down, they will be never able to repay their debts. Crimean people will have higher standard of living,then ever,  there was no violence, remember that.

[BADecker]

West behaves pretty dictatorial towards rest of the world..they are jsut working on having good image by demonizing those who stands in their way. Think for youself people. Crimea is rich compared to rest of bancrupt Ukraina, crimeas industries and economy is depentand on Russias. Ukraina is going down, they will be never able to repay their debts. Crimean people will have higher standard of living,then ever,  there was no violence, remember that.

Remember one GREAT piece of knowledge. ALL the struggles of countries are really agaisnt the one GREAT hidden nation... the banking system. All loans are fake. The people have been tricked into using money. Money is a bank creation, with the help of government to some extent. People are going to be extremely angry once they recognized that the idea of money is a tool that is holding them in slavery.

[samaricanin]

People are going to be extremely angry once they recognized that the idea of money is a tool that is holding them in slavery.

We already know that, ordinary people still do not

[BADecker]

People are going to be extremely angry once they recognized that the idea of money is a tool that is holding them in slavery.

We already know that, ordinary people still do not

There are many people in these forums who don't understand it enough to fathom the good Bitcoin can do. 

[Nemo1024]

Anything and everything to do with Russia, even if it has a look of beauty, is really the Russian government trying to take control of the whole world. It has always been this way since the Bolshevik revolution. And unless Russia is forced into common law, it will always be the same.

"Bolsheviks" (which were a minority, just like the Right Sector in Ukraine is a West-financed minority) are the ones who tried to force Russia into "common law". The 1917 coup d'etat, financed from London and executed by a half-German russophobe. The parallel to the 2014 coup d-etat in Kiev are striping. As are the consequences.

Define "common law" by the way. If you mean the international law, UN, Russia is the only country that currently abides by it, to its own detriment. But I guess that by "common law" you mean the US-instilled law of conquer, rape, murder and subjugate. Sorry, as long as Russia has some breath left, that won't fly.

When you talk about the role of the money, on the other hand, you make sense, yet then you start pushing a MSM-promoted demonisation of Russia, one of the few countries that remains standing up to the dominance of petro-dollar. I don't know where to place you.

[Nemo1024]

Elections in Moldova today. With large violations already spotted. The main opposition anti-EU-association party was thoughtfully removed from the ballots.

For the 700000-750000 Moldovans working in Russia, only 5 voting spots were open and only 15000 ballots were brought in! It means that 685000-735000 people were blocked from casting their vote. It would just happen that these people would also be against EU-association.

Looks like the West creating Ukraine MkII out of Moldova, discarding the voices of the people who don't what to "Go West".

Btw, an interesting read:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/11/29/predictions-battleground-moldova-november-30-2014-elections/

Moldova is the poorest and one of the smallest countries of Europe. Moldova is also a new geopolitical battleground. The November 30, 2014 Moldovan parliamentary elections promise to be the beginning of a shift. The pro-EU coalition government is doing everything to remain in power, dragging Moldova kicking and screaming into the EU, and into the absorption by Romania. The means used to hang on to power at all cost are openly anti-democratic and illegal. Meanwhile, according to various polls, the majority of Moldavians are pro-Customs Union with Russia.

To many Moldavians this is the issue of livelihood and even life and death, in addition to any cultural preferences, traditions, and the Russian language many speak at home. In this regard, Moldavia is very much like Ukraine. It is literally a suicide for Moldova to cozy up to the EU when almost all of its trade is with Russia and other countries of the Customs Union and when 750,000 of its citizens are guest workers in Russia. These guest workers, who may be deported back to Moldova should it make further overtures towards the EU, add a huge chunk to Moldova’s GDP by sending their earnings home to support their families.

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Knowing they are on shaky ground, current pro-EU government uses openly anti-democratic methods to stifle the voice of the people. The party Patria (Motherland) of Renato Usaty has just been banned from participating in the November 30 elections. The new coalition Moldova’s Choice – Customs Union isn’t allowed on TV and kept away from TV debates. In the info vacuum many citizens may not know what voting choices they have.

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Communist Party, which is communist in name only, is the largest and oldest party in Moldova. Many vote for it specifically because they mistakenly think it’s pro-Russian. Same confusion happened with Yanukovich and Party of the Regions in Ukraine, until they showed their true colors.

Communists, through their head Vladimir Voronin, have recently re-affirmed on public TV their pro-EU position. As I discussed in my earlier article and video (see links below), it appears Voronin has been threatened/ blackmailed by the West to toe the line. It appears the CIA presented Voronin with an undeniable proof of his son’s guilt in crimes committed in the US. Voronin Jr. resides in the USA. His daddy was told to support the EU integration of Moldova if he doesn’t want his son in jail.

[Balthazar]

Looks like the West creating Ukraine MkII out of Moldova, discarding the voices of the people who don't what to "Go West".

That won't work because any UA-II scenario will lead to recognition of Transnistrian independence.

[youngmike]

Obama needs to bomb moldova before putin does!

[BitMos]

Define "common law" by the way. If you mean the international law, UN, Russia is the only country that currently abides by it, to its own detriment.

common law derives from the use of common sense. for example it doesn't make sense to make a plant illegal, what ever the imposed order.

the "pro-EU at all costs" are grabbing more land than Isis and all the other groups combined... I ask myself what is the end goal of the most fanatics in the European project? The European Union member states adopt the US Constitution and bills of rights and I couldn't be more favorable, fragment the all according to the will of the people to live in the government of their choosing. However the absence of any "piece of papers", doesn't change the fact that for any nations and people, better to be in the European sphere than the Russian one. And as the Russian dream has always been to expand beyond reason, in all direction (certainly a key effect of the citadel wall oppression feeling) leads to the inevitable meeting with others people that may think that Moscow isn't the center of the universe and that a more advanced even if not perfect form of government is preferable to a more archaic regime. However the use by the European politicians of the European integrated market as a weapon of war must be stopped immediately. What is this stupid, arrogant attitude of persons that don't have to have a say to say in the conduct of business operations. It's not your market, you aren't shareholders, at best as customers you can boycott. I take for example Google, what is happening again, needing some loot to raid a country? Bringing deaths, debts and desolation to it's inhabitants.

I don't understand why the euro-fanatics have so much hate for the American Empire... What is the big cultural integrity that Europe must defend against the cultural mercantile imperialist culture? Why couldn't a cultural good be sold? I understand it's deeper than that, maybe the post colonial withdrawal process. Yes, every People in the world deserve a government of the People, by the People for the People, sadly there is already enough solution to be found in the Empire itself to let most People on Earth to feed for themselves, and try sometimes too to find solution and not be a source of problems from the Empire perspectives. To use a maritime crude expression: we let you float don't force us to shoot you.

All paths already walked (or sailed) couldn't lead to new outcomes. The Empire already walked them all. Surprise .

[Nemo1024]

Aaand, the Socialist party (pro-Customs Union) got the majority, despite the pro-EU parties' scheming with discrediting one opposition party and despite about 1/5 of all Moldovans (those who work in Russia) not being able to vote.

[Balthazar]

and despite about 1/5 of all Moldovans (those who work in Russia) not being able to vote.

Moldovan workers weren't able to cast their votes, but their relatives do..