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April 13, 2012, 01:59:33 AM
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The Press board replaces the Bitcoin press hits, notable sources thread.  The original motivation of the thread was to collect links that fit Wikipedia's definition of Notability.  Once bitcoin was deemed sufficiently notable (a milestone!), the thread became an ongoing log of links.  Discussion was discouraged.

The Press board is a great improvement.  These general guidelines should help keep the board usable:

  • Create a new thread for each new link
  • Begin each thread with article date, YYYY-MM-DD format.
  • Thread title should usefully summarize the link.  julz has suggested DATE-SITE-HEADLINE format, but use your best judgement.
  • Duplicate links, off-topic, and meta discussions may be moderated (locked or whatever the mods prefer)
  • Post a link to the NEW articles thread.

As always, comments and suggestions welcome!  The main goal is to keep the noise down.


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April 13, 2012, 02:07:21 AM
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Does smf allow the sort order to be ordered chronologically by first post instead of being by Last Post?

Otherwise new posts that don't get any comments will get buried below all the older posts that are still seeing comments.

Either way, +1 on this move.  A place for discussions on these press items was needed.

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April 13, 2012, 02:16:53 AM
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Hi Jeff,  I'm wondering why you chose this particular day to lock the other topic and start this one?

Did you know just yesterday http://bitcoinpress.com was launched with a similar intent?

Perhaps only coincidence.
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April 13, 2012, 02:21:55 AM
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Hi Jeff,  I'm wondering why you chose this particular day to lock the other topic and start this one?

Did you know just yesterday http://bitcoinpress.com was launched with a similar intent?

Perhaps only coincidence.

Probably because theymos got around to creating the "press" sub-board just today.

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April 13, 2012, 02:27:06 AM
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Does smf allow the sort order to be ordered chronologically by first post instead of being by Last Post?

Otherwise new posts that don't get any comments will get buried below all the older posts that are still seeing comments.

Either way, +1 on this move.  A place for discussions on these press items was needed.

Just put the ISO 8601 formatted date as the first part of the subject for any press hits.
Click on the 'subject' column - and it should all sort correctly.

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April 13, 2012, 02:31:26 AM
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Suggestion: stickie this thread.

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April 13, 2012, 02:40:45 AM
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Hi Jeff,  I'm wondering why you chose this particular day to lock the other topic and start this one?

Did you know just yesterday http://bitcoinpress.com was launched with a similar intent?

Perhaps only coincidence.

Probably because theymos got around to creating the "press" sub-board just today.

Yes, I see. Just that the timing of such did make me a bit curious.
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April 13, 2012, 04:29:30 AM
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Probably because theymos got around to creating the "press" sub-board just today.

I noticed theymos moved the 'Bitcoin hits' thread to the new Press board, and jumped on that.


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April 13, 2012, 08:47:40 AM
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I like it, it will be much more clear and organized!

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April 13, 2012, 10:18:35 AM
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cool thanks!

and for the date format [looking at you US guys!] i suggest YYYY-MM-DD which is sortable and all humans can read it.

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April 13, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
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Hi Jeff,  I'm wondering why you chose this particular day to lock the other topic and start this one?

Did you know just yesterday http://bitcoinpress.com was launched with a similar intent?

Perhaps only coincidence.


Funny. I think the point of time was chosen by my. I remembered the idea somehow (maybe relevant thread bump) and PMed theymos about the subboard. Only a little later did I discover bitcoinress.com.

I assure it was not intentional.


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April 13, 2012, 07:40:19 PM
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Does smf allow the sort order to be ordered chronologically by first post instead of being by Last Post?

That would be magnificent.

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April 15, 2012, 04:45:42 AM
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It is definitely easier to navigate the articles having them in their own section!

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April 18, 2012, 01:56:45 PM
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Does smf allow the sort order to be ordered chronologically by first post instead of being by Last Post?

Otherwise new posts that don't get any comments will get buried below all the older posts that are still seeing comments.

Either way, +1 on this move.  A place for discussions on these press items was needed.

Just put the ISO 8601 formatted date as the first part of the subject for any press hits.
Click on the 'subject' column - and it should all sort correctly.


Isnt there a way to fix the position of articles, so that the chronological order doesnt fuck up, once someone comments on something?
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April 18, 2012, 04:12:16 PM
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Just put the ISO 8601 formatted date as the first part of the subject for any press hits.
Click on the 'subject' column - and it should all sort correctly.

+1

I always used ISO 8601 for my pics folders. Since 1996.

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April 18, 2012, 08:10:37 PM
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It is definitely easier to navigate the articles having them in their own section!

But there is no thread that shows up under "new replies" which is what many people use to see what's relevant to them. 

Perhaps what is needed is a post that acts as an index to the other posts.  This would be locked and only the post author can add to it maybe, to keep it from becoming another "press hits" thread.   Thoughts?

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Updated first post to reference NEW articles thread.

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June 01, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
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Because I don't want to spam, should we be including all articles in the Bitcoin Magazine here as well?

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July 11, 2012, 02:40:09 AM
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Not sure how it ought to be titled, but bitcoin gets mentioned several times in We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency.
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July 12, 2012, 12:43:51 AM
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Hi Jeff,  I'm wondering why you chose this particular day to lock the other topic and start this one?

Did you know just yesterday http://bitcoinpress.com was launched with a similar intent?

Perhaps only coincidence.


There are only 3 titles in that site and all are from mid-April. Thank god no one waited around for that.

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Hi Jeff,  I'm wondering why you chose this particular day to lock the other topic and start this one?

Did you know just yesterday http://bitcoinpress.com was launched with a similar intent?

Perhaps only coincidence.


There are only 3 titles in that site and all are from mid-April. Thank god no one waited around for that.

Yes, because the reorganization of the Press Hits on this forum kind of killed the site idea just a little.
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As always, comments and suggestions welcome!

As Bitcoin permeates through more and more of the conversations by the news media, journalists and bloggers the number of posts here is increasing dramatically.  Some of these have very little to do with Bitcoin itself.  

For instance, here's an article that didn't specifically mention Bitcoin by name but the reference to "crypto currency" followed shortly with a SR reference means this certainly was a Bitcoin mention:

Insights into Cultural Shifts from a Visit to a Hardware Store
 - http://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/insights-cultural-shifts-visit-hardware-store

Even though it is a great article, I don't think it is worthy of inclusion in the Press board here on the BitcoinTalk forum.  Bitcoin was simply just a mention in the article.

But yet a catalog of all the different mentions of bitcoin might be useful.  Perhaps a thread titled something like "Minor Mentions" would be more appropriate for posting links to articles and posts where Bitcoin (or a Bitcoin-related item) was mentioned but where Bitcoin was not necessarily a significant part of the article.

Here's another example:

2013-01-11 WorldCrunch.com - SILK ROAD: DEEP INSIDE THE INTERNET HIDES A BOOMING
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135976.0

That article was about SR only.  It did mention Bitcoin but it too was a small part of the story.

Or am I trying to fix something that isn't broke and including them in this "big net" Press board is something that works fine currently and should continue to be fine for the foreseeable future?

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tbh, I don't think the volume on the press topic is too high. One can also very quickly tell wether or not bitcoin is only mentioned or wether the article is mainly about bitcoin without even having to click through to the article.

I'd hate to have to check 2 threads instead of 1 and would prefer to keeps things as they are for now.

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A suggestion: I think it would be beneficial to also designate each press story as generally positive (+) or generally negative (-) in its attitude toward Bitcoin. Then we could aggregate the positive and negative totals by month or by week, and keep track of the overall trend in a separate thread.

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A suggestion: I think it would be beneficial to also designate each press story as generally positive (+) or generally negative (-) in its attitude toward Bitcoin. Then we could aggregate the positive and negative totals by month or by week, and keep track of the overall trend in a separate thread.

A locked down 'best-of-the-best' thread would be a great resource to point new people to. I don't think we really need to give negative grades out to all the others.

Also a thread of just the video clips would be great. I think it would run to a few hours now! They could run it on a loop it at the conference next month.

But before we get to any of that, can we get some more moderators for the Press sub-forum? It's getting a little unruly with the high volume of news.

It would be good to clean up all the titles so an alphabetical sort will actually get you a proper chronological feed of the news, regardless of comments etc. Can moderators edit titles on this platform?
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Here is one that gives a great overview of Bitcoin:

http://voices.yahoo.com/bitcoin-boom-other-currency-12134875.html


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Clarification requested
When regarding date's is it better to source the format of the article if they use a date or the bitcointalk thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232909.new#new

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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking.
Use the date the article was published, put it at the beginning of the thread title so it's formated like YYYY-MM-DD <publication> - <article title>
If you forgot, you can always click the edit button on the right hand side then fix the title.
Thanks for helping to maintain the press section.

Edit: I get what you are asking now. I believe using a date format that sorts alphabetically is best.
        See my thread here for one example of what is possible when we do this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189611.0
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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking.
Use the date the article was published, put it at the beginning of the thread title so it's formated like YYYY-MM-DD <publication> - <article title>
If you forgot, you can always click the edit button on the right hand side then fix the title.
Thanks for helping to maintain the press section.

Edit: I get what you are asking now. I believe using a date format that sorts alphabetically is best.
        See my thread here for one example of what is possible when we do this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189611.0

I see did not know we used it to calculate trend data that comes in handy formatted edits my post so it can be added to the data-list
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tbh, I don't think the volume on the press topic is too high. One can also very quickly tell wether or not bitcoin is only mentioned or wether the article is mainly about bitcoin without even having to click through to the article.

I'd hate to have to check 2 threads instead of 1 and would prefer to keeps things as they are for now.


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I consider it very poor form for an ordinary user on the Press Board to post a thread and then lock it... even if you do feel the conversation has gone off topic.   Leave it to the mods.

When you notify us of a press hit in this board - you don't 'own' the topic.

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I think it is important to add to the guidelines that posters in this section should not create locked or self-moderated threads. Free and open discussion of the linked articles is very important, and moderation should be left to properly authorized moderators.

Self-moderation will inevitably lead to endless censorship accusations, recriminations and flames - as we have seen recently when one poster refused to eliminate the dupe post because the earlier post linking to the same article was self-moderated.

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I think it is important to add to the guidelines that posters in this section should not create locked or self-moderated threads. Free and open discussion of the linked articles is very important, and moderation should be left to properly authorized moderators.

Self-moderation will inevitably lead to endless censorship accusations, recriminations and flames - as we have seen recently when one poster refused to eliminate the dupe post because the earlier post linking to the same article was self-moderated.

Translation: you're butthurt because I'm the author of most topics on the Press forum and because I post most articles before you do. Don't worry, I'm requesting that my account here be cancelled and you may have your little "kingdom" back.
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I think it is important to add to the guidelines that posters in this section should not create locked or self-moderated threads. Free and open discussion of the linked articles is very important, and moderation should be left to properly authorized moderators.

Self-moderation will inevitably lead to endless censorship accusations, recriminations and flames - as we have seen recently when one poster refused to eliminate the dupe post because the earlier post linking to the same article was self-moderated.

I 100 percent agree. No need to censor the press section. Thanks


Edit. This is not currently being followed. Ill give it a few days then start making non self moderated threads so the mods can get rid of the self moderated ones.

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Ephebus: What a childish tantrum. Run along, kid, go play with other kids - seems like civilized discussion is too much for you to handle.

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When I see Goat as the last poster in anything, I tend to read it as he is one of my most respected members (like TOP-5 in 151,000)...

...then I see this kind of infantile rant, making me think "what the flying fcuk is goin' on here"
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I thing in here and in the other forum post also about format, it should be clarified once more, that the date to use should be that of the actual original article publishing date and not the member posting date like many are keep doing.
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It's much more easier to navigate the articles when they are in their own section
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Cool thanks! It's easier to navigate the articles having them in their own section, but there is still no thread that shows up under "new replies" which is what many people use to see what's relevant to them.
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November 04, 2014, 05:30:06 PM
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How can these Youtube links be notable press hits? I don't think this board is the right place for Youtube links. I'm going to report them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846122
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=845095
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=845112
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846039
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846040
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846046
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I think we could use some clarification re 'Press' section. I don't think articles from bitcoin/crypto news services (CoinDesk, Cointelegraph etc) should be posted in this board, since basically all their articles are bitcoin related.

Shouldn't it be limited to mainstream or non-crypto press hits?

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I think we could use some clarification re 'Press' section. I don't think articles from bitcoin/crypto news services (CoinDesk, Cointelegraph etc) should be posted in this board, since basically all their articles are bitcoin related.

Shouldn't it be limited to mainstream or non-crypto press hits?

I agree. Many of these Bitcoin news websites are quite new and don't have the reputation of major news outlets (some of them promoted the paycoin scam, etc.).
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I think we could use some clarification re 'Press' section. I don't think articles from bitcoin/crypto news services (CoinDesk, Cointelegraph etc) should be posted in this board, since basically all their articles are bitcoin related.

Shouldn't it be limited to mainstream or non-crypto press hits?

I agree. Many of these Bitcoin news websites are quite new and don't have the reputation of major news outlets (some of them promoted the paycoin scam, etc.).

Same here my opinion is that they should be inside their own area of the Press Board not a complete ignore as they can be relevant, but their articles do tend to swarm the press board and may filter other media information.

A good thing in a sense since were now getting so much news, but because we are it makes more sense to try and organize and sort the info.
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thanks for the tips, but i seem to have a problem with posting and the terms and conditions that come with it,     
it can actually frustrate you when you want to post
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I rarely notice this subforum and have recently found it to be a wealth of information but I notice there are very few replies to the articles.
Is it frowned on to reply to the article,saw in meta mention of people spamming this section and do not want to cause more grief by doing something that is not cool.
Did not see mention of this in this thread and it looks like the rules of changed since it was started,so this is the reason I am asking before I respond to any of these topics just in case there is a system or method that I may disrupt.

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April 12, 2016, 11:17:56 PM
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I rarely notice this subforum and have recently found it to be a wealth of information but I notice there are very few replies to the articles.
Is it frowned on to reply to the article,saw in meta mention of people spamming this section and do not want to cause more grief by doing something that is not cool.
Did not see mention of this in this thread and it looks like the rules of changed since it was started,so this is the reason I am asking before I respond to any of these topics just in case there is a system or method that I may disrupt.


If replying was disallowed, they would disable 'reply' option. There's no harm at all in making constructive comments, just bear in mind this board is not meant for extensive debates. Fresh, current press hits should stay at the top, rather than be buried by discussions in old threads.

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May 16, 2016, 02:51:35 AM
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Are only Bitcoin-related articles allowed in the press section? or can I also post other Blockchain/FinTech/Other coins related pieces?
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May 16, 2016, 12:28:24 PM
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Are only Bitcoin-related articles allowed in the press section? or can I also post other Blockchain/FinTech/Other coins related pieces?

I understand this board is definitely for Bitcoin-related news only. But if you find anything interesting, that you think is somewhat relevant, you can share it (with your comments) on other boards (i.e. Economics, Alternate cryptocurrencies, General discussion or wherever relevant).

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January 25, 2017, 07:27:48 AM
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Can we please moderate paid Press Releases: they usually turn out to be scams. There should be a rule about that since a PR does not provide any news. It's paid for a purpose......

Thanks!

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August 31, 2017, 02:55:04 PM
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Can we please moderate paid Press Releases: they usually turn out to be scams. There should be a rule about that since a PR does not provide any news. It's paid for a purpose......

Thanks!
I highly agree with @Karartma1 this needs to be done sooner then later. It has become a huge problem. IMHO

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October 12, 2017, 07:55:26 AM
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Its always tricky when it comes to guidelines on any comity or board of press. Its best to always revise the documentation before presented.
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