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September 04, 2014, 08:06:30 PM
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I know this has been a big selling point for a while now.
Sure it has advantages depending on what you are purchasing.
If a dev wants his coin to have more real world adoption, I think any and every legal retail business will stay clear of such coins.
Also wouldn't be to anonymous if you could order from a place like newegg with your user account and shipping address.

Just feeling like the whole anonymous thing may be a little blown out of proportion.

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September 04, 2014, 08:38:31 PM
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Exactly why would you want to pay anonymously on Newegg that doesn't even make sense.
No, it is not blown out of proportions. I've anonymized so much money here, that I'm not sure if I'll get taxed at all.  Cheesy

Read this and similar articles for starters http://gawker.com/5905319/why-anonymity-matters

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September 04, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
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I've anonymized so much money here, that I'm not sure if I'll get taxed at all.  Cheesy

Is that really true? I doubt it.

But if it is, I'm not sure tax avoidance is something to boast about.

Next time you need the taxpayers money, like when you take advantage of roads, public buildings, the police, the military, peace, safety, modern infrastructure and communications, and on and on, I hope you feel great about your freeloading.

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September 04, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
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I've anonymized so much money here, that I'm not sure if I'll get taxed at all.  Cheesy

Is that really true? I doubt it.

But if it is, I'm not sure tax avoidance is something to boast about.

Next time you need the taxpayers money, like when you take advantage of roads, public buildings, the police, the military, peace, safety, modern infrastructure and communications, and on and on, I hope you feel great about your freeloading.

Actually if he's avoiding taxes chances are he's paying some taxes.  And if he's employed and paying some taxes he is probably a net contributor.  Vs a lifelong welfare state recipient.  Or the uber rich who pay attorney & lobbies groups instead of taxes.

So as a taxpayer who pays my full taxes and always will.  I harbor no ill will (nor should other taxpayers).
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September 04, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
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I've anonymized so much money here, that I'm not sure if I'll get taxed at all.  Cheesy

Is that really true? I doubt it.

But if it is, I'm not sure tax avoidance is something to boast about.

Next time you need the taxpayers money, like when you take advantage of roads, public buildings, the police, the military, peace, safety, modern infrastructure and communications, and on and on, I hope you feel great about your freeloading.
I will always boast about this? Why? Because I can.
This country is shit. The politicians are draining it, while people barely have food to survive.
I don't give a fuck. I'll make my own road using Bitcoin. Hopefully one day I'll avoid taxes completely.

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September 04, 2014, 09:16:25 PM
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I will always boast about this? Why? Because I can.
This country is shit. The politicians are draining it, while people barely have food to survive.
I don't give a fuck. I'll make my own road using Bitcoin. Hopefully one day I'll avoid taxes completely.

What country are we talking about?
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September 04, 2014, 09:18:44 PM
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I will always boast about this? Why? Because I can.
This country is shit. The politicians are draining it, while people barely have food to survive.
I don't give a fuck. I'll make my own road using Bitcoin. Hopefully one day I'll avoid taxes completely.

What country are we talking about?
Yeah should I give you my real name, address and everything?
It's a 3rd world country, that is enough.

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September 04, 2014, 09:19:19 PM
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I've anonymized so much money here, that I'm not sure if I'll get taxed at all.  Cheesy

Is that really true? I doubt it.

But if it is, I'm not sure tax avoidance is something to boast about.

Next time you need the taxpayers money, like when you take advantage of roads, public buildings, the police, the military, peace, safety, modern infrastructure and communications, and on and on, I hope you feel great about your freeloading.
I will always boast about this? Why? Because I can.
This country is shit. The politicians are draining it, while people barely have food to survive.
I don't give a fuck. I'll make my own road using Bitcoin. Hopefully one day I'll avoid taxes completely.

You don't understand, you can't make your own road. The road has been paved already, and not by you. All you are doing is looking for where you can get an advantage from pre-existing infrastructures. Fair enough, but let's not get carried away about how independent we are.  

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September 04, 2014, 09:19:48 PM
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I will always boast about this? Why? Because I can.
This country is shit. The politicians are draining it, while people barely have food to survive.
I don't give a fuck. I'll make my own road using Bitcoin. Hopefully one day I'll avoid taxes completely.

What country are we talking about?
Yeah should I give you my real name, address and everything?
It's a 3rd world country, that is enough.

Got it ... just wondering if you were a self entitled whiner American libertariantard  Roll Eyes
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September 04, 2014, 09:36:56 PM
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You don't understand, you can't make your own road. The road has been paved already, and not by you. All you are doing is looking for where you can get an advantage from pre-existing infrastructures. Fair enough, but let's not get carried away about how independent we are.  

So how do you explain this 800m road in my village (well not really, but outside the city borders) that was paid by my parents a few years ago? What nonsense are you spitting out, I can do whatever I want.
Also don't you love having to buy all hospital supplies when you have to be treated? So much about using stuff.

I'm not from America.

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September 04, 2014, 10:37:41 PM
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You don't understand, you can't make your own road. The road has been paved already, and not by you. All you are doing is looking for where you can get an advantage from pre-existing infrastructures. Fair enough, but let's not get carried away about how independent we are.  

So how do you explain this 800m road in my village (well not really, but outside the city borders) that was paid by my parents a few years ago? What nonsense are you spitting out, I can do whatever I want.
Also don't you love having to buy all hospital supplies when you have to be treated? So much about using stuff.

I'm not from America.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Unless you live under a state of nature, the state (and its people) provide the means for survival. It might not be pretty or fair or nice, but the ones that get ahead usually do so because they are able to play the game within the limited contours available, whether legally or illegally.

Your parents did not build a road out of nothing or because they are so brilliant or fantastic or clever. They used their advantages and got the job done.

Your last sentence makes no sense at all. But if it amuses you, I'm also not from America.


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September 05, 2014, 01:22:30 AM
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I know this has been a big selling point for a while now.
Sure it has advantages depending on what you are purchasing.
If a dev wants his coin to have more real world adoption, I think any and every legal retail business will stay clear of such coins.
Also wouldn't be to anonymous if you could order from a place like newegg with your user account and shipping address.

Just feeling like the whole anonymous thing may be a little blown out of proportion.

Thoughts?

Originally, I thought anon coins were used only for bad purposes. Now I realize it's a much needed feature to protect our rights from future tech companies. The amount of data and profile and therefore insights into the smallest details of your life have been gathered by Facebook and Google. Were you able to know just exactly the implications of this, it might be sickening. For most of us it's too late, like myself. They have my data. People don't know how bad it is because it hasn't been abused yet so much, but just like iCloud and those celebrities that thought everything was safe, we might wake up and realize it wasn't. Anonymity is one way we can start to protect ourselves again, even the normally people that aren't really doing anything wrong.

There are some loopholes for anon coins like the OP mentioned with having things delivered to your house. But many times it will work to help protect individuals. 

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