Is AMT miners the biggest scam out there?

[clenell]

These guys are actively telling customers to fuck off and join the class action against them if they dont want to accept the $1000 re-branded chinese miners they paid $6,000 for last year. Seriously, even BFL has been giving refunds as of lately - or so I have been told. I am going on ten months, less $6,000 cash, and no refund in site. Josh Zipkin, the owner is actively taunting people in his  "self moderated" official AMT thread. Is their a shittier company out there? If so tell me I would like to hear it.

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[Gleb Gamow]

These guys are actively telling customers to fuck off and join the class action against them if they dont want to accept the $1000 re-branded chinese miners they paid $6,000 for last year. Seriously, even BFL has been giving refunds as of lately - or so I have been told. I am going on ten months, less $6,000 cash, and no refund in site. Josh Zipkin, the owner is actively taunting people in his  "self moderated" official AMT thread. Is their a shittier company out there? If so tell me I would like to hear it.

I read about them when I was researching manufacturers for investment purposes. Weren't they trying to sell their whole gear here, although they had pending orders that werent being shipped?
Somebody should really pay them a visit and sort this out.

Somebody did, and he even reported back to the community:

[AMT_minerLESS]

These guys are actively telling customers to fuck off and join the class action against them if they dont want to accept the $1000 re-branded chinese miners they paid $6,000 for last year. Seriously, even BFL has been giving refunds as of lately - or so I have been told. I am going on ten months, less $6,000 cash, and no refund in site. Josh Zipkin, the owner is actively taunting people in his  "CENSORED" official AMT thread. Is their a shittier company out there? If so tell me I would like to hear it.

FTFY, let's not dance around what that really is. But yea pretty much accurate all around.

[opieum2]

I think based on the threads in the hardware which are covered here people will know the real deal:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569769.0 The Official and heavily censored thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584891.0 Unofficial user thread (uncensored complaints and expose)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756427.0 Chats leaked exposing his lies. And proof Josh Zipkin is a liar and a cheat.

Also be aware that AMT appears to be hawking their wares via alt accounts and aliases to avoid being associated with their brand. Again another form of shady behavior to avoid legal liability. Just keep an eye on on the hardware as it all looks the same. Until there is proof its another manufacturer its likely them under an alias or proxy.

[clenell]

confirmed.

josh zipkin of AMT miners is a scammy piece of shit.

[mrpark]

Yes, they stole $6,000 from me, and I STILL don't have a working miner. They send me some crap no name miner parts in unpacked boxes. The retail value of these parts are about $800 if that.

[opieum2]

They are also taking the shady route of creating various front companies (as Josh had stated in chats he would be doing) and selling miners that way. Seeing that the designs are IDENTICAL, it is worth mentioning that segree-bitwinkor could be one of these fronts. As they have both not denied it, AND are unwilling to do escrow, as AMT has shown the same unwillingness, its best to avoid anything coming from AMT or Segree-bitwinkor until they have shown they are not an AMT front.