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April 16, 2012, 02:09:08 PM
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I've noticed that we have a new subforum under lending called securities. I do like the idea of having it there, but it seems to have the wrong things in it.

In a securities subforum of lending, I'd expect to find primarily debt-based securities (bonds, CDOs, CDSes) and requests to borrow or offers to lend other types of securities.

It seems to be the dumping ground of most topics with [GLBSE] in their subject, which doesn't feel right, considering that many of them (shares/perpetuities) are not inherently debt-based.

Was the forum intended to be one level up from lending?
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April 16, 2012, 02:18:07 PM
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i think securities, should be directly under marketplace.  I mean, you buy / sell / trade securities..  Marketplace makes the most sense.

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April 16, 2012, 02:57:43 PM
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i think securities, should be directly under marketplace.  I mean, you buy / sell / trade securities..  Marketplace makes the most sense.
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I am more interested in it than the lending section, so it's annoying to need the extra clicks.

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April 16, 2012, 03:00:49 PM
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i think securities, should be directly under marketplace.  I mean, you buy / sell / trade securities..  Marketplace makes the most sense.
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I am more interested in it than the lending section, so it's annoying to need the extra clicks.
Also +1, because I happen to block the Lending section, which then filters out the "securities" section that I still want access to.

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April 16, 2012, 03:21:22 PM
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I've noticed that we have a new subforum under lending called securities. I do like the idea of having it there, but it seems to have the wrong things in it.

In a securities subforum of lending, I'd expect to find primarily debt-based securities (bonds, CDOs, CDSes) and requests to borrow or offers to lend other types of securities.

It seems to be the dumping ground of most topics with [GLBSE] in their subject, which doesn't feel right, considering that many of them (shares/perpetuities) are not inherently debt-based.

Was the forum intended to be one level up from lending?

The threads that are there are intended for that forum, the original request was for a GBLSE subforum which is too narrow in focus, wanted something more encompassing. If the name isn't adequate then what would you suggest?

Based on the definition I found it seems to fit. I am no finance expert though.
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A security is generally a fungible, negotiable financial instrument representing financial value.[1] Securities are broadly categorized into:

    debt securities (such as banknotes, bonds and debentures),
    equity securities, e.g., common stocks; and,
    derivative contracts, such as forwards, futures, options and swaps.

Here is the other thread that prompted it.
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76611.0

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April 16, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
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I've noticed that we have a new subforum under lending called securities. I do like the idea of having it there, but it seems to have the wrong things in it.

In a securities subforum of lending, I'd expect to find primarily debt-based securities (bonds, CDOs, CDSes) and requests to borrow or offers to lend other types of securities.

It seems to be the dumping ground of most topics with [GLBSE] in their subject, which doesn't feel right, considering that many of them (shares/perpetuities) are not inherently debt-based.

Was the forum intended to be one level up from lending?

The threads that are there are intended for that forum, the original request was for a GBLSE subforum which is too narrow in focus, wanted something more encompassing. If the name isn't adequate then what would you suggest?

Based on the definition I found it seems to fit. I am no finance expert though.
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A security is generally a fungible, negotiable financial instrument representing financial value.[1] Securities are broadly categorized into:

    debt securities (such as banknotes, bonds and debentures),
    equity securities, e.g., common stocks; and,
    derivative contracts, such as forwards, futures, options and swaps.

Here is the other thread that prompted it.
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76611.0

Yeah, except the subforum seems to have ended up buried under the lending forum, rather than under marketplace, and I don't think it belongs there, unless you restrict it to only those securities that are debt-related, as I said.
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April 16, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
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Oh I see what you're saying. Lending securities versus just securities, didn't think about it that way.

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April 16, 2012, 04:46:27 PM
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Also with my GLBSE "RSM" item listed in that sub-forum has nothing to do with lending really as investors are buying outright a share in the company and all hardware that comes with it.  Also people won't find that forum unless they go looking for lending and my company is a security yes but it's not a bond or anything to do with lending.

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April 16, 2012, 05:21:54 PM
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Alright, I moved it up.

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April 16, 2012, 05:33:51 PM
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Alright, I moved it up.
Great, I like it!

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April 17, 2012, 01:33:29 AM
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Alright, I moved it up.

Thanks for the move; this saved me a couple more clicks now  Grin

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