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November 11, 2016, 03:16:26 AM
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Hello, Is there a way to see in kano.is if there was any interruption when hashing? I need that Sad

I also provide that service at: https://ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com/
And here is the thread for it if you have any questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1331875.0

There are also Android and iOS apps as mentioned in the first post of the CKPool thread:
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December 06, 2016, 04:10:35 PM
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Kano runs a great pool. It's profitable, reliable, well written (by ck and kano), well run, transparent, and has a great and fun community (see the kano pool thread).

Slush is also a very nice pool. It was the first mining pool ever, created by the same person who developed the Trezor. They've invested a lot in upgrading the pool over the years. Slush has more built-in features and has an arguably better looking UI than Kano, but that doesn't make you more money.

One advantage that Slush has is that it offers several Bitcoin standards that you can vote on. The pool will direct your hash rate to the standard you choose. You can also choose no standard if you don't care.

Kano's pool has no voting mechanism. He's also an outspoken critic of Segwit. So if you mine on Kano's pool, you're effectively mining against Segwit. Not that it matters that much given that the pool is a small percentage of the total hashrate.

I've mined on both pools over the years. I recently switched from Kano to Slush because I disagree with Kano's stance on Segwit. Sure I'll have slightly less profitability, but at this stage it's more important for me to vote than eek out a little more profit.

That said, both pools really are great. Either one is a good choice.

Whatever you choose though, stay away from the pools that behave badly, like f2pool and antpool. Those pools have a history of SPV mining, mining empty blocks, etc. Large inefficient pools that centralize mining in China are a poor choice if you care about either short term profitability or the long term viability of Bitcoin itself.

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December 08, 2016, 11:34:21 AM
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My quick answer is that kano.is pays a little more but slushpool pays more regularly and has less variance. Thats putting the politics of bitcoin aside.
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December 08, 2016, 04:06:31 PM
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Hello, a year ago i was mining at kano.is and it was performing really good! I stopped mining for X reason but now im back again, but now i heard people saying that slushpool is better now than kano.is? Kano luck has diminished too.

Is there a better pool? any recommendations thanks?  


My first pool was on Slush and I even found my first block there. It is a pool that had payout problems while I was there, of not paying the proper amount. Then you always have the problem of not getting paid anything if your miners go down within in a certain time before the next block is found.

Since I left Slush I have tried just about every other pool and have found kano's to be the best for me as a set it and not have to babysit it pool. Well ran and honest, so my advice is Kano's pool.
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December 10, 2016, 10:30:34 PM
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slush pool is the best pool!!!  they share trans. fees.  you get a vote.  they are transparent about everything. great support. vpn stratum servers.
the best real time dashboard out there.
hands down slush pool!!!!!!!!!
average 24 hr per pth is $670 us
slush 24 hr per pth $ 850 U.S. 
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December 10, 2016, 10:50:45 PM
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slush pool is the best pool!!!  they share trans. fees.  you get a vote.  they are transparent about everything. great support. vpn stratum servers.
the best real time dashboard out there.
hands down slush pool!!!!!!!!!
average 24 hr per pth is $670 us
slush 24 hr per pth $ 850 U.S. 

Not sure if your a shill, or just plain ignorant/stupid. You claim that slush pays x1.25 more than other pools, yet I checked that luck stats and for the last 250, it's only at 103%. Other pools can reach this, and there might be some pools that have had better luck recently. You must be comparing slush's recent luck with a pool that has had extremely bad luck. Also, remember when the whole genesis mining thing happened, and luck dropped a lot? Still making that 850$ US? (didn't verify your figures btw) More like 550$ US.


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December 11, 2016, 01:09:12 AM
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Well the details of that problem at slush that was swept under the carpet, and slush hid the details ...

The problem was that he wasn't even checking statistics properly on the pool at least for the whole month of last December ... ...

For (just) that month of Dec last year at slush:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.msg13482822#msg13482822

Pool found 230 blocks (2 stales) luck was 79.34870522%
So that means they would expect to find 1/(79.34870522/100) * 230 = 289.8598 blocks
So the pool was down (according to luck stats) by 58.9 blocks ... which was 1496.5BTC in December
Yes that was 1496BTC less than expected 100% that the pool got and paid to miners.
You can probably subtract about 1% for orphans.

The chances of being ~20% down on luck for 230 blocks is next to impossible
Any pool should know how many blocks a miner is (currently) expected to have found.
If you don't know that, you won't detect withholding.
If a miner is down 10 blocks it means something is already wrong.

Also chances of being down even ~10% are extremely unlikely on 230 blocks ...

So really we are talking at least 30 blocks missing that you can't account to bad luck.
750BTC

So what actually happened was Omega Mining was running proxy software pointed at slush that they hadn't properly checked was working to find blocks on the live bitcoin network.
They should have solo mined to test their software, not made the pool miners pay for their testing.

What should have happened is Omega Mining should have returned all the BTC the pool paid them since they did not (and would not) find any blocks.
But instead, slush decided that the miners should pay the price of Omega Mining testing their software.

I wonder what deal slush made with Omega Mining ...

Yeah slush may have the longest running pool, but it's clearly the longest running in the dark not knowing what he should have been doing about checking miners Tongue

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December 12, 2016, 02:33:16 PM
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Bitcoin.com has a mining pool now, it could still be in beta i believe so if you need an invite just let me know and I'll see what I can do.

I would like an invite too. I heard they'll pay miners a higher fee. Smiley thanks!

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