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May 08, 2012, 06:21:33 PM
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Ok I'll think about it. The only question is how long will this run.
As long an new ppl deposit money. So basically it's like mining for gold in a mine witch is going to collapse.
If you get out soon you will have a nice profit.
Its a financial pyramid in its pure form with all risks compensated by possible high profit.

It runs fine 16 months and >30 million people involved and get paid.

Every day of thinking costs... Time is money Smiley
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May 08, 2012, 06:28:54 PM
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How long did MMM 94 pay people before it collapsed?

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May 08, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
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About 6 months. It had official company and money were centralized in one place.
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May 10, 2012, 02:01:44 PM
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MMM & Sergey Mavrodi. The Truth the Government doesn't w★nt you to know!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iFHgJdn25Og#!
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May 10, 2012, 04:49:52 PM
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Ok I'll think about it. The only question is how long will this run.
As long an new ppl deposit money. So basically it's like mining for gold in a mine witch is going to collapse.
If you get out soon you will have a nice profit.
Its a financial pyramid in its pure form with all risks compensated by possible high profit.

It runs fine 16 months and >30 million people involved and get paid.

Every day of thinking costs... Time is money Smiley

I'm sticking it out for 27 months.  I have ran calculations/spreadsheets, and have a glorious plan.  So if it lasts that long, I will be happy!

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May 14, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
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I withdrawed $1000 USD week ago for buying BFL Single (see screenshots on prev page).

Today I checked current rates and found that balance converted to USD increased for a bit more than $1000.

So I can order BFL Single every week without affecting USD balance Smiley

But i decided to order it every month as a little bonus for me, as I have different plan for rest money.
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May 14, 2012, 10:29:28 PM
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It runs fine 16 months and >30 million people involved and get paid.


I see you're into it, so I have some questions for you:

1) How do you know there's 30M people involved in this (website info doesn't seem too credible..)
2) Do you know of anyone making any estimates on to when this is going to collapse? When are you prepared for it?
3) How does withdrawal work, which currencies (banks, countries) are supported? I am specifically interested in SEPA tranfers (EUR and PLN)
4) Why does the website look like it was written in 2000 (not the code though but quite a few errors there)
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May 14, 2012, 10:48:26 PM
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1) How do you know there's 30M people involved in this (website info doesn't seem too credible..)
There is no method to count participants directly but indirect estimations tell it is likely true:
- #19 Rank in RU and #705 in the world according to Alexa stats
- Youtube is full of success withdrawals amateur video. And nothing about failures.
- In my xUSSR country there are A LOT of advertising around
- Also in my country everyone know what is it, not depending they are participants or not.

2) Do you know of anyone making any estimates on to when this is going to collapse? When are you prepared for it?

Estimates started along with MMM and predict its failure on every day, then every week, now they predict collapse every month

3) How does withdrawal work, which currencies (banks, countries) are supported? I am specifically interested in SEPA tranfers (EUR and PLN)

Depending on your manager/foreman. If you use invite code pent you will get manager from Warsaw (Poland). He accepts Liberty Reserve, bank transfers, Western Union, Cash. I help him to accept Bitcoins also. But Bitcoins go via me, as he don't understand how to deal with them. I dont know what is SEPA, but probably yes.

4) Why does the website look like it was written in 2000 (not the code though but quite a few errors there)

- MMM is more offline structure. All data kept at manager PC locally and periodically synced with global database and displayed on the website only for confortable reasons. As website can be shutdown at anytime by gov or hacked or whatever - Internet is not the first face of MMM.
- MMM is just started going west, all just starts here
- MMM grows exponentally and seems that devs don't have enough time for all
- Most managers create their own sites for advertising MMM and they looks better Smiley I am developing such
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May 15, 2012, 10:53:42 PM
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New bonus on deposit

Until 22 May 2012 (including) you get bonus on any deposit +40% instantly. I.e. you deposit 100 USD - you get MAVRO on $140 USD and they continue to grow 40% a month.

Bonus will disappear if you withdraw money during 1 month. But only bonus.
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May 18, 2012, 11:11:17 PM
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Informational mini-war MMM vs TCS Bank (Tinkoff Credit Systems). MMM wins. Fatality.

15 May 2012 - Top manager of TCS Oleg Anisimov published in LiveJournal (link already closed) false information leak from one of MMM heads about coming MMM collapse. In his post, Oleg published a mail from Artem Prokofiev (head of 1000s MMM structure), where Artem says about internal problems of MMM and funds shortage.

This blog post went to Livejournal top in hours and got 25 pages of discussions.

16 May 2012 - Sergey Mavrodi published disproff post in his official blog, where Artem Prokofiev on video says that he has no relation to published mail. Artem showed his passport to identify his person on video.

17 May 2012 - Sergey Mavrodi qualified Oleg's post as direct information attack on MMM and asked MMM participants to withdraw their money from TCS Bank:

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Кстати, можно проверить, пирамида банк Тинькова-Анисимова или нет. (Анисимов это тот самый, который про нас подложные письмена выкладывает.) Они же утверждают, что нет? С пеной у рта. Все эти банкиры. Вот забирайте деньги, и посмотрим, выдержит ли? Если не пирамида -- выдержит, чего им опасаться? Даже крепче станет! Избавившись от грязных денег пирамидчиков.  :-)) (Разве что повезёт, и наших участников там мало. :-))

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Besides, lets check whether Anisimov's TCS Bank is a pyramid or not. (Anisimov is a man who published false mails about us). They assert they are not a pyramid. With a foamy mouth. All of those bankers. Okay. So withdraw money and we will see whether TCS handle this ot not. If they are not pyramid - they will stay. Why should they care then? They will become even more stronger!

18 May 2012 - Anisimov removed his original post from LiveJournal: http://oleganisimov.livejournal.com/

18 May 2012 - Multiple blog and news posts about panic in TCS clients. Clients trying to withdraw their money, but TCS bank have no funds:
http://delovoe.tv/event/Mavrodi_otomstil_Tin_k/
http://sekai.clan.su/publ/monde_mono/mmm/mmm_vs_bank_kto_kogo/13-1-0-83#heading1
http://eugenyshultz.livejournal.com/278223.html
http://ka3ak2010.livejournal.com/36028.html - Fynancial Apocalypse is comming - MMM destroys TCS Bank
http://tcsbank.bank.ru/opinion/mark/1/ - tons of panic comments

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Return me my money you ****er. If I see your range rover - it will be really damaged. They not take the phone. I must wait for 10 mins, then they refuse call. Tomorrow i'll visit their office with police

Waiting for bankrupt liquidation procedure of this bank.

What this says about?
1. MMM is a huge social structure with millions of participants - enough to destroy single bank in one day.
2. MMM has huge funds backup in banks - enough to destroy single bank in one day
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June 02, 2012, 04:09:07 AM
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This just collapsed.

'Fool me twice, shame on me: Russians fall once again for notorious Ponzi scheme'

http://www.rt.com/news/mmm-mavrodi-ponzi-scheme-715/


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June 02, 2012, 04:08:24 PM
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I am curious if pirate has just been passing investment funds to this. If true, the near future will prove amusing.

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June 02, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
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I am curious if pirate has just been passing investment funds to this. If true, the near future will prove amusing.

Even if he did this and was smart. He could just stop the BTS&T and pay everything back and even have a big profit for himself.
Pirate stated somewhere that he business he was running may be considered a ponzi in the beginning.

We will see...

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June 02, 2012, 05:18:24 PM
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I haven't entered it but from what I've heard from people in MMM-2011 it is not falling apart, and only the media says so.
Doesn't mean it can't fall apart at any time soon.
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June 03, 2012, 05:41:15 AM
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I am curious if pirate has just been passing investment funds to this. If true, the near future will prove amusing.

Even if he did this and was smart. He could just stop the BTS&T and pay everything back and even have a big profit for himself.
Pirate stated somewhere that he business he was running may be considered a ponzi in the beginning.

We will see...
If he got the principal out in time.

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June 03, 2012, 01:03:09 PM
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This just collapsed.

'Fool me twice, shame on me: Russians fall once again for notorious Ponzi scheme'

http://www.rt.com/news/mmm-mavrodi-ponzi-scheme-715/
This just restarted as MMM-2012.

Polish cell is in progress moving deposits of MMM-2011 to MMM-2012.
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June 03, 2012, 09:53:20 PM
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This just collapsed.

'Fool me twice, shame on me: Russians fall once again for notorious Ponzi scheme'

http://www.rt.com/news/mmm-mavrodi-ponzi-scheme-715/
This just restarted as MMM-2012.

Polish cell is in progress moving deposits of MMM-2011 to MMM-2012.
lol what?

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June 04, 2012, 02:34:48 PM
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This just collapsed.

'Fool me twice, shame on me: Russians fall once again for notorious Ponzi scheme'

http://www.rt.com/news/mmm-mavrodi-ponzi-scheme-715/
This just restarted as MMM-2012.

Polish cell is in progress moving deposits of MMM-2011 to MMM-2012.
lol what?

Yes...what?  MMM-2011 is crashing, but new MMM-2012 is spinning up and deposits are moving over?  Tell us all about it.
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June 04, 2012, 03:37:00 PM
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This just got my attention... Shocked

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June 04, 2012, 07:12:48 PM
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I got this response from my tens manager:
 
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"Hello,

the polish cell will still pay for MMM-2011 from MMM-2012 money. So it's all ok ;) don't be worry"

So I'll ride this storm out and hopefully it will last as well. Smiley

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