Moneychanger (Windows Builds) - Out of Date!

[fellowtraveler]

Is it possible to lower the requirements to be usable also on Windows XP?

Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2012:
Supported operating systems: Windows 7 Service Pack 1, Windows 8, Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, Windows Server 2012, Windows Vista Service Pack 2

Windows 7 SP1 (x86 and x64)
Windows 8 (x86 and x64)
Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 (x64)
 
Windows Server 2008 SP2 (x64)
Windows Vista SP2 (x86 and x64)
Windows Server 2012 (x64)

I guess if somebody wants to make mingw builds of OT they would work fine...  The OT Project is moving to C++x11 features, that are supported in the 4.6+ versions of GCC.
However from Microsoft compilers, this restricts us to Vista (SP2) and 7 (SP1).

The benefit of Windows is the huge install base.

Therefore it might be a mistake to move towards a newer version of the compiler, if it's going to automatically slice away hundreds of millions of potential users...

Not everyone in the world has a nice new Mac like some of us.

[da2ce7]

The benefit of Windows is the huge install base.

Therefore it might be a mistake to move towards a newer version of the compiler, if it's going to automatically slice away hundreds of millions of potential users...

Not everyone in the world has a nice new Mac like some of us.

Agreed, that is why I've been working on the windows version.  I think that if OT gets much more popular, then I'm sure somebody will build some windows builds with GCC 4.7 with mingw (like how bitcoin is built).

[da2ce7]

Ok New Version released!  This version just has a few java bug-fixes.

Please not that if you are running Windows x64 you may need to install both the x86 and x64 version of OpenSSL, and VC Runtimes.

https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Moneychanger/da2ce7-Moneychanger-00.10.07.7z

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[markm]

So is this new Windows release working for everyone? For anyone? I am not seeing much sign that people have had much success getting it up and running?

-MarkM-

[HostFat]

I think that this project need an homepage with some screenshots, example:
http://multibit.org/
http://bitcoinarmory.com/
http://bitcoin.org/

[markm]

How about videos?

http://open-transactions-tv.github.com/

Here are some screenshots:

https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Moneychanger

There are also wikis:

https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Moneychanger/wiki

https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions

-MarkM-

[HostFat]

I know that there are all these resources, but I think that it needs only one page/site with all of them.
All of these resources are so scattered that this still seems an alpha project to newbie users.
By the way this is just my opinion.

It would be nice also to have an rss/twitter account/facebook page/whatever that help to be always automaticaly updated on the status of releases, and as I said it should be noob-prof.

[CJGoodings]

I know that there are all these resources, but I think that it needs only one page/site with all of them.
All of these resources are so scattered that this still seems an alpha project to newbie users.
By the way this is just my opinion.

Absolutely, was just about to mention something along those lines. As using OT can be somewhat technical at times, the only way i see this becoming common and easy to use, would require a weusecoins type style site (straight to the point, with the ability to teach granny how to use in just a few steps), with everything of importance collected in one place with all the serious tech mumbo jumbo cutout.

[markm]

FellowTraveler is very modest about it. He has not officially characterised it as beta yet as far as I know.

I have been running a server a long time though and frankly i have never known any financial system so robust where it counts, which is in actually keeping all the balances correct. Seems like all other systems invariably get some balance somewhere wrong sometime. It always seemed to me the "trial balance" in commercial accounting systems was for more than just making sure the humans got their inputs right, not sure I have ever run anything before in which the balances and the overall balance was this robust.

So sure yeah the user interface is terrible, it needs to be made to handle more load, and so on and so on, but there is nothing quite like it for actually keeping track of actual balances.

TL;DR it *is* alpha, "officially".

-MarkM-

[markm]

Absolutely, was just about to mention something along those lines. As using OT can be somewhat technical at times, the only way i see this becoming common and easy to use. would require a weusecoins type style site (straight to the point, with the ability to teach granny how to use in just a few steps), with everything of importance collected in one place with all the serious tech mumbo jumbo cutout.

Before that someone should step up to grab the (185+ BTC) bounty for making a client for grannies. This current client is is a reference client, demonstrating how to code all the many things Open Transactions can do.

The bounty thread is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105506.0

-MarkM-

[ripper234]

So is this new Windows release working for everyone? For anyone? I am not seeing much sign that people have had much success getting it up and running?

-MarkM-

I haven't been able to make it work yet.

[da2ce7]

So is this new Windows release working for everyone? For anyone? I am not seeing much sign that people have had much success getting it up and running?

-MarkM-

I haven't been able to make it work yet.

Can you please provide us with some feedback, such as the error outputs.

[ripper234]

So is this new Windows release working for everyone? For anyone? I am not seeing much sign that people have had much success getting it up and running?

-MarkM-

I haven't been able to make it work yet.

Can you please provide us with some feedback, such as the error outputs.

No problem, I'll send in detailed feedback in a few days.

[scrybe]

So is this new Windows release working for everyone? For anyone? I am not seeing much sign that people have had much success getting it up and running?

-MarkM-

I'm having issues with Java crashing:

We are on Windows!
Loading libzmq:   Success!
Loading chaiscript:   Success!
Loading otlib:
ERROR:   Loading Windows DLL's Failed
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Games\moneychanger\data\lib\Win32\Release\otlib.dll: The specified procedure could not be found
        at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary1(Unknown Source)
...

I've got the 32-bit MSVC and openssl components installed, and I've verified I'm using 32-bit Java. What else should I be looking for?

[da2ce7]

I'm having issues with Java crashing:

We are on Windows!
Loading libzmq:   Success!
Loading chaiscript:   Success!
Loading otlib:
ERROR:   Loading Windows DLL's Failed
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Games\moneychanger\data\lib\Win32\Release\otlib.dll: The specified procedure could not be found
        at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary1(Unknown Source)
...

I've got the 32-bit MSVC and openssl components installed, and I've verified I'm using 32-bit Java. What else should I be looking for?

Hmm this is interesting... I haven't seen this particular error before. hmmm...

[da2ce7]

Hmm this is interesting... I haven't seen this particular error before. hmmm...

Can you please tell me:

What version of windows you are using.
What version of Java you are using.
If your  C:\Games\moneychanger\ directory is completely clean other than my latest release.

Have you tried it with java x64 (if you are using a x64 version of windows)?

as-well can you please paste bin the entire output.

[markm]

Hmm not a lot that can be done without details of the actual problem and exactly what set of dependencies etc it happened with...

Anyone else running into those same problems?

-MarkM-

[drekk]

So is this new Windows release working for everyone? For anyone? I am not seeing much sign that people have had much success getting it up and running?

I can't extract the archive. 7zip errors with "unknown compression method" (roughly translated from German client).

Win7 Pro, 7zip alpha

Cheers!
  ~drekk~

[da2ce7]

I can't extract the archive. 7zip errors with "unknown compression method" (roughly translated from German client).

Win7 Pro, 7zip alpha

Cheers!
  ~drekk~

Hmm...

Just tested https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Moneychanger/da2ce7-Moneychanger-00.10.07.7z

With WinRar, it worked fine.


Also make sure that the file has downloaded correctly.
It's File-hash should be

SHA256(da2ce7-Moneychanger-00.10.07.7z)= a75fdaf96339abbb04a9f39df940aad1227f0ed1e76870b8b7b1db02d5ba885d

[drekk]

I can't extract the archive. 7zip errors with "unknown compression method".
Win7 Pro, 7zip alpha

Just tested https://github.com/downloads/da2ce7/Moneychanger/da2ce7-Moneychanger-00.10.07.7z

With WinRar, it worked fine.


Also make sure that the file has downloaded correctly.
It's File-hash should be

SHA256(da2ce7-Moneychanger-00.10.07.7z)= a75fdaf96339abbb04a9f39df940aad1227f0ed1e76870b8b7b1db02d5ba885d

Re-installed 7zip, downloaded archive several times, still same error:


MD5: 9a374abe66ee9356d4b8737150485132 *da2ce7-Moneychanger-00.10.07.7z
SHA1: 5f2482213648b4599d0a7e9349a488ec9265e824 *da2ce7-Moneychanger-00.10.07.7z

But since I'm the only one with this problem obviously, I'll try with different archivers.

Thanks!
  ~drekk~