Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Pentax]

Both www.blackarrowsoftware.com and ecointalk.net are offline, is the longest running ASIC pre-order scam to date finally done?

What, their latest attempt to fuck the same people they've already fucked didn't scare up a ton of cash?

Color me shocked.

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[DebitMe]

Both www.blackarrowsoftware.com and ecointalk.net are offline, is the longest running ASIC pre-order scam to date finally done?

What, their latest attempt to fuck the same people they've already fucked didn't scare up a ton of cash?

Color me shocked.

Probably a last ditch effort before pulling everything offline for good.  They got their chips, mined with them for as long as they would make money, and now are done.  Probably made millions at the expense of others, hope these fuckers burn.

[Pentax]

Both www.blackarrowsoftware.com and ecointalk.net are offline, is the longest running ASIC pre-order scam to date finally done?

What, their latest attempt to fuck the same people they've already fucked didn't scare up a ton of cash?

Color me shocked.

Probably a last ditch effort before pulling everything offline for good.  They got their chips, mined with them for as long as they would make money, and now are done.  Probably made millions at the expense of others, hope these fuckers burn.

Yep, pretty much how I see it.  Any stupe that sent these guys money on this latest scam would've been lucky to see a single mbtc

[notbatman]

Both www.blackarrowsoftware.com and ecointalk.net are offline, is the longest running ASIC pre-order scam to date finally done?

What, their latest attempt to fuck the same people they've already fucked didn't scare up a ton of cash?

Color me shocked.

Probably a last ditch effort before pulling everything offline for good.  They got their chips, mined with them for as long as they would make money, and now are done.  Probably made millions at the expense of others, hope these fuckers burn.

Yep, pretty much how I see it.  Any stupe that sent these guys money on this latest scam would've been lucky to see a single mbtc

Yeah I'm guessing these X36s were the miners they built with our money and put online back in May 2014 that replaced the Bitfury boards in their farm. Now that they're completely unprofitable this was a last ditch effort to make a few shekels more off their totally screwed customers.

[alh]

While I have "no dog in this fight", their offer sounds vaguely familiar. Didn't Butterfly Labs (aka BFL) offer their Monarch customers some kind of cloud mining deal as compensation for the horrendous delays?

Well at least Black Arrow didn't offer an upgrade to their X72 (i.e. twice as good as the X36) product for a modest fee. You could be the first one in line to never receive anything!!!   

[notbatman]

While I have "no dog in this fight", their offer sounds vaguely familiar. Didn't Butterfly Labs (aka BFL) offer their Monarch customers some kind of cloud mining deal as compensation for the horrendous delays?

Well at least Black Arrow didn't offer an upgrade to their X72 (i.e. twice as good as the X36) product for a modest fee. You could be the first one in line to never receive anything!!!   

BA promised cloud hashing as compensation for the very first delay they announced at the beginning of 2014. After the 3 month wait and it came time to deliver they announced another delay and promised even more cloud hashing.

Then after "next week" after "next week" for a few months they cancelled the cloud mining and changed the promised compensation to actual hardware to be delivered but there was a catch, the miners were to be shipped without power supplies. They suckered customers into paying for PSUs for the promised miners.

Then it was back to "next week" after "next week" for a few more months. It was starting to get near the end of 2014 and BA finally started shipping a few units but they were catching fire and exploding. BA of coarse immediately stopped shipping and did the "next week" for a few more months.

Finally at the end of 2014 BA started shipping now obsolete worthless miners without compensation units and only to customers who contacted them and begged for their miners.

Now we're at the start of 2016 and the miners from their farm (considerably more power efficient than the junk they sent a few "lucky" customers)  they started running in may 2014 are obsolete and they decided to offer them as "compensation" to customers but there's a catch. The miners aren't certified so they can't actually ship anything and customers have to send them money to receive this compensation in the form of cloud hashing.

Well we know how their promises of compensation have turned out in the past...

personally I've received absolutely nothing at all; my order has not been fulfilled and they've refused to refund my money.

[notbatman]

That was just a brief synopsis, BA did a lot more shady things like selling the customer data base to other scammers/spammers and concocting elaborate lies to tell the media. e.g.  like stating that customer comments were being deleted because they weren't actually customers and worked for the competition.

I work a fucking shit job for close to minimum wage and that $5k they stole from me fucked me up when I didn't get any mining revenue to cover it.

Two years of absolute bullshit from Romanians scammers living in the UK who for some reason are untouchable by law enforcement in spite of the fact they fled Romainia after being convicted of internet credit card fraud. They fled to the UK where they set up a credit card POS manufacturing business that evolved into Bitcoin ASIC manufacturing.

[Raimonn]

Both www.blackarrowsoftware.com and ecointalk.net are offline, is the longest running ASIC pre-order scam to date finally done?

Both websites (the blackarrowsoftware.com shop and their forum ecointalk.net) are online another time, they want to stole some more money from newbie minners that don't know how they work.

[notbatman]

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com has been scrubbed from the wayback machine (https://web.archive.org). Everything after 27 June 2013 is gone now.


How is this possible?

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http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/ | 11:12:03 Feb 1, 2014

Got an HTTP 302 response at crawl time

Redirecting to...

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/

edit:

Hmm, it looks like some pages are still available if you know the exact URL.

[btmtb]

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com has been scrubbed from the wayback machine (https://web.archive.org). Everything after 27 June 2013 is gone now.
How is this possible?

Code:

Loading...

http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/ | 11:12:03 Feb 1, 2014
Got an HTTP 302 response at crawl time
Redirecting to...
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/

edit:
Hmm, it looks like some pages are still available if you know the exact URL.

You got my hopes up that this disgrace had finally had gone for a minute, but yeah, google last indexed it the same day you posted and it was fully available too. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eF4PNrVTEJ0J:www.blackarrowsoftware.com/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b

It seems to be dropping packets for fun, with very erratic loading success.

[theman8631]

Every now and then I go back to this post and get so fucking angry.  Gave them $6000 for an imaginary miner they didn’t deliver.  Really wish there was some legal action or method to get any of that back. I am not a wealthy man, I knew it was a risk but there was a moment they convinced alot of people in this community that this would deliver.

So angry

[olseh]

Every now and then I go back to this post and get so fucking angry.  Gave them $6000 for an imaginary miner they didn’t deliver.  Really wish there was some legal action or method to get any of that back. I am not a wealthy man, I knew it was a risk but there was a moment they convinced alot of people in this community that this would deliver.

So angry

Yeah it sucks man, they screwed a lot of people out of a lot of money... Matt Carson too that fucking scumbag. In the end I got my X1.... months and months and months later but it did come.

Just chalk it up to a learning experience mate, that's all you can do now. Karma will get these shitheads one day

[notbatman]

Sombody posted this in the legal thread:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/judge-shocked-fraud-case-now-11989706 | http://archive.is/nnUb9

"A judge said he fears using a cash machine again after a Romanian fraudster was convicted of helping a gang distribute skimming devices across the world from a garden shed.

Alexandru Sovu, 39, designed 'skimmers' and ATM fronts in a £3 million scam.

These were then sold to criminals in New York, Jamaica, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, Ghana and the Philippines.

But after absconding during his trial after he was granted bail, he was convicted of fraud in his absence at Blackfriars Crown Court on Wednesday.

It is now believed he is in China or Romania where he is forging new identity documents.

At the hearing other gang members were also convicted.

..."

[olseh]

Scum, hopefully he gets caught and gets his ass landed in jail

[notbatman]

Sovu is truly the king of the Jews.

[Soignee]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5381775/Romanian-kingpin-jailed-11-years-ATM-skimming-scam.html

[olseh]

When they do catch him, he's going away for a long time

[Soignee]

http://media.btp.police.uk/r/15165/gangleader_jailed_for_11_years_after_making_and_d

[fanatic26]

Matt Carson too that fucking scumbag.

He was just an employee and lost a ton of money on it as well. Sometimes employers fuck over their employees too....

[olseh]

Matt owned MinerSource, trust me he fucked over a lot of people then shut shop and ran. Ended up working for another company (name of which escapes me at the moment) but I have a tonne of correspondence with Matt full of outright lies and stories. Never gave me a refund and left others high and dry too